JD done gone and stirred the Knoxville worshippers up…

[EDERDS]

Call Knoxville a dump last night.

[Pennsboro32]

We can keep blaming tracks because nobody wants to have a conversation about the cars..

[SLlDlNG SIDEWAYS]

Talk about bobby being a cry baby... Ole jd is as bad as they come, worse then Billy Moyer, who was there and didn't cry about anything. At least Billy showed up unlike cry baby bobby!

[CILDirt]

Calling one of the nicest facilities in the country a dump for a problem he and his team literally created. What a crybaby. Maybe it’s time he stay home on his dumpy ranch.

[Umpdirt1]

So you have the lead and literally drive it into the wall not once but twice and it's the tracks fault. Come on JD you fuc*ed up admit it.

[SLlDlNG SIDEWAYS]

I've always said jd is just an average driver, well he proves it here recently.

Who else hit the wall twice, or even once? Go jd, lol.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

We can keep blaming tracks because nobody wants to have a conversation about the cars..

Bingo! Couldn't be more right. Drivers and fans cry about the tracks every week while ignoring the cars are trash.

[SLlDlNG SIDEWAYS]

^ I knew this would draw your interest lol.

[Barbecueboy]

“ Knoxville not a dump, and I never slice” …..In my best judge schmells voice.

I don’t understand all the hate from the sprint car guys /fans to where they won’t come to watch…..sprints aren’t my thing so much but I do like to see them come to my local track occasionally.
A good race is just a dam good race, no matter what’s above the 4 wheels imo.

[jog49]

"I've always said jd is just an average driver,"

Actually, you proved what an idiot you really are now and always have been . . . . .

[chathamracefan]

Wouldn't want to be relying on JD merch sales at Knoxville for my living expenses. It really comes off hypocritical for him to whine about the aero push so bad since virtually of his major event success has occurred in the aero push era that really seemed to get bad right around mid 2010's when he paired up with Rumley.

[SLlDlNG SIDEWAYS]

"I've always said jd is just an average driver,"

Actually, you proved what an idiot you really are now and always have been . . . . .

You being that special individual you are, makes your remarks that much more substantial. Grin

[Josh Bayko]

Knoxville is a so-so to terrible track for everything but winged sprint cars. It’s definitely not a dump. It’s a fantastic facility.

And the cars keep getting more aero focused to the detriment of drivability. There’s that.

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

Jd prolly used " DUMP" as in nobody likes to come to that track. I'm sure he's prolly thinking that it wasn't the appropriate word now. Jmo

[ron19]

I've always said jd is just an average driver, well he proves it here recently.

Who else hit the wall twice, or even once? Go jd, lol.

Average? What a clown

[SLlDlNG SIDEWAYS]

Average? What a clown

Oh yea, he's just an average driver, but with special gadgetry he does pretty well. He can't seem to stay off the wall without help of some sort on his car. I wouldn't call him a clown tho. Unless you're talking about him saying k-ville is a dump. Lol, that was pretty fummy! Lolsdm!

[Henry Every]

Never been a fan of Knoxville for a DLM race, but its hallowed ground for outlaw sprints and I respect that. Having a driver make negative comments after eating the wall pretty hard is pretty common place in my experience and not worth making a fuss over. I'm personally not a fan of aero dependent race cars of any type, but its where the powers that be have led the sport in superb ignorance. They've ignored history and logic in favor of short term gains and creating long term loss because like it or not the number of DLM's in competition through out the country is in decline. I hope one day they'll address the elephant in the room, but just like the Great Reset BS, it will moist likely be far too late and too much damage will have been done. Enjoy the next level, she won't be around long.

[Highside Hustler25]

I've heard all about the demise of late models for the last 15 or so years. I'm still waiting to send the flowers and they are starting to look a little rough.

[intel8]

Wow! Poor little baby got in dirty air, crashed his car,it's the tracks fault cause it's a dump! lol.... somebody's ego got hurt.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

I've heard all about the demise of late models for the last 15 or so years. I'm still waiting to send the flowers and they are starting to look a little rough.

Cancer is often a slow death. When you go to your local track and they don't have late models anymore, that's blood in your stool.

You feel fine because you went to Eldora and they had 90 cars.

[zyoung25]

Cancer is often a slow death. When you go to your local track and they don't have late models anymore, that's blood in your stool.

You feel fine because you went to Eldora and they had 90 cars.

5-10 years ago, we were still getting full fields of cars at all of the surrounding tracks in our area. Now we are lucky to get half of that when we run supers every two weeks. Prp used to average 25-30 cars just for a weekly race, even with atomic racing the same night and drawing 20 cars, and the track only being 40mins apart. They both do good to get 20 now on opposite weekends.

Id be lying if I said I wasn't concerned.

[Mod Runner]

The economy has something to do about lower car counts. Inflation has driven up the price of most everything.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

The economy has something to do about lower car counts. Inflation has driven up the price of most everything.

In the last 2 or 3 years sure. Dlm have far outpaced inflation and have been disappearing way faster. When was the last time a track in Georgia had weekly super late models?

[dirtcrazy4u]

JD doesn't like the gumbo at knoxville. The surface is like no other, when the sprints cars run they create 2 grooves. 1 on the berm and 1 on the top, with them having 3 divisions of them and getting close to 90 cars weekly the track usually doesn't come around until feature time. 90 cars compared to 40, there's your difference why the track surface stays the way it is. That black dirt has proven it can beat the heck out of all challengers. I doubt JD was callin the facilities a dump, I think he was referring to the surface. Them boys like red clay, not black silt.

[kidrock]

JD doesn't like the gumbo at knoxville. The surface is like no other, when the sprints cars run they create 2 grooves. 1 on the berm and 1 on the top, with them having 3 divisions of them and getting close to 90 cars weekly the track usually doesn't come around until feature time. 90 cars compared to 40, there's your difference why the track surface stays the way it is. That black dirt has proven it can beat the heck out of all challengers. I doubt JD was callin the facilities a dump, I think he was referring to the surface. Them boys like red clay, not black silt.

I agree and if you asked JD I'm sure he would clarify the facility itself is not a dump. He just doesn't like how the surface doesn't widen out during the night. Heck he might come back and win the darn thing tonight.

[SLlDlNG SIDEWAYS]

The economy has something to do about lower car counts. Inflation has driven up the price of most everything.

The Biden years.

[SLlDlNG SIDEWAYS]

I agree and if you asked JD I'm sure he would clarify the, facility itself is not a dump. He just doesn't like how the surface doesn't widen out during the night. Heck he might come back and win the darn thing tonight.

Kid, jd is gonna tell you exactly what he first said lol. Why would he try to change that? Why's it so hard for you and a few other here to grasp actuality? Why r you so silly?

Get a grip dude! Thanks.......... . . .. ..... .

[Barchetta6]

We all know Knoxville is not a dump. If fact it’s a premier track. JD screwed up and got in the wall coming off 4. He then finished it off in turn 1. To blame aero is BS. As far as I know he’s the only car with “aero” issues. I like sprint cars and LM equally. Knoxville is usually a 2 groove racetrack that produces great racing. JD is butt hurt by being slapped around by RHJ and Pierce this year. Aside from Eldora JD is ordinary. I was a fan. I’ll look elsewhere now.

[kidrock]

Kid, jd is gonna tell you exactly what he first said lol. Why would he try to change that? Why's it so hard for you and a few other here to grasp actuality? Why r you so silly?

Get a grip dude! Thanks.......... . . .. ..... .

I stand behind my past comments, thank you my friend....................................

[SLlDlNG SIDEWAYS]

^ so wouldn't jd...

You're welcome. Grin

[SLlDlNG SIDEWAYS]

"We all know Knoxville is not a dump. If fact it’s a premier track. JD screwed up and got in the wall coming off 4. He then finished it off in turn 1. To blame aero is BS. As far as I know he’s the only car with “aero” issues. I like sprint cars and LM equally. Knoxville is usually a 2 groove racetrack that produces great racing. JD is butt hurt by being slapped around by RHJ and Pierce this year. Aside from Eldora JD is ordinary. I was a fan. I’ll look elsewhere now."

This was so refreshing, I had to read it twice.

Well said!

[jog49]

I agree and if you asked JD I'm sure he would clarify the facility itself is not a dump. He just doesn't like how the surface doesn't widen out during the night. Heck he might come back and win the darn thing tonight.

Not a chance of Davenport winning tonight as he is just an "average" driver. In fact, he is so average that there is only one driver more average than he. A few may have heard of him.

ALL TIME LUCAS OIL LATE MODELS SERIES WINS

Driver Wins Starts %
Scott Bloomquist 94 502 18.7%
Jonathan Davenport 68 408 16.7%
Don O'Neal 46 525 8.8%
Earl Pearson, Jr. 40 724 5.5%
Tim McCreadie 34 402 8.5%
Josh Richards 33 327 10.1%
Brandon Sheppard 28 270 10.4%
Billy Moyer 24 215 11.2%
Tyler Erb 19 223 8.5%
Hudson O'Neal 18 264 6.8%
Chris Madden 17 118 14.4%
Brian Birkhofer 17 131 13.o%
Steve Francis 14 348 4.o%
Bobby Pierce 12 174 6.9%
Shannon Babb 12 178 6.7%
Ray Cook 10 184 5.4%

[TerryM]

JD doesn't like the gumbo at knoxville. The surface is like no other, when the sprints cars run they create 2 grooves. 1 on the berm and 1 on the top, with them having 3 divisions of them and getting close to 90 cars weekly the track usually doesn't come around until feature time. 90 cars compared to 40, there's your difference why the track surface stays the way it is. That black dirt has proven it can beat the heck out of all challengers. I doubt JD was callin the facilities a dump, I think he was referring to the surface. Them boys like red clay, not black silt.
Nobody likes red clay. It’s pretty to look at, but doesn’t make for a great racing surface.

[Barbecueboy]

Those are cool stats,some of those names surprise me.

[kidrock]

Not a chance of Davenport winning tonight as he is just an "average" driver. In fact, he is so average that there is only one driver more average than he. A few may have heard of him.

ALL TIME LUCAS OIL LATE MODELS SERIES WINS

Driver Wins Starts %
Scott Bloomquist 94 502 18.7%
Jonathan Davenport 68 408 16.7%
Don O'Neal 46 525 8.8%
Earl Pearson, Jr. 40 724 5.5%
Tim McCreadie 34 402 8.5%
Josh Richards 33 327 10.1%
Brandon Sheppard 28 270 10.4%
Billy Moyer 24 215 11.2%
Tyler Erb 19 223 8.5%
Hudson O'Neal 18 264 6.8%
Chris Madden 17 118 14.4%
Brian Birkhofer 17 131 13.o%
Steve Francis 14 348 4.o%
Bobby Pierce 12 174 6.9%
Shannon Babb 12 178 6.7%
Ray Cook 10 184 5.4%

Yep just an average Joe riding around hoping for a victory lol

[Raceready]

Yep just an average Joe riding around hoping for a victory lolHe will be back in the winners circle before ya know it !

[jr29]

There also weren't 4 or 5 classes of late models 15 or 20 years ago. If we took away all of the crate classes in the country I'd bet car counts would stabilize some at weekly shows. Maybe not everywhere, but it would definitely boost the numbers overall.
No one brings up the weak economy when Boone, Iowa gets over 1,000 cars for the Supernationals. They are even planning to build a clone track to accommodate all of the fans and cars. There are record crowds all over for regional and national shows. Nary a word about the weak economy then. It's only mentioned when it's convenient. Maybe weekly shows are suffering because a lot of weekly shows stink.

[SLlDlNG SIDEWAYS]

Not a chance of Davenport winning tonight as he is just an "average" driver.


You too acknowledge that fact, good for you! He ain't nutten without them gadgets, ain't he? L

[kidrock]

He will be back in the winners circle before ya know it !

Yes he will. Just might be tonight but, I will say he has an uphill battle with RTJ starting on the pole but, If I've learned anything over the years I've learned anything is possible and as long as you're in the big show. If I was to place a bet it would have to be Rtj sweeps the weekend and parks it in P-1

[Raceready]

Yes he will. Just might be tonight but, I will say he has an uphill battle with RTJ starting on the pole but, If I've learned anything over the years I've learned anything is possible and as long as you're in the big show. If I was to place a bet it would have to be Rtj sweeps the weekend and parks it in P-1I think that anyone in a Longhorn is going to be a force to reckon with tonight . That youngi'n Bobby Pierce made life easy for the others by taking a rest from victory lane by staying home ! !

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

Not a chance of Davenport winning tonight as he is just an "average" driver. In fact, he is so average that there is only one driver more average than he. A few may have heard of him.

ALL TIME LUCAS OIL LATE MODELS SERIES WINS

Driver Wins Starts %
Scott Bloomquist 94 502 18.7%
Jonathan Davenport 68 408 16.7%
Don O'Neal 46 525 8.8%
Earl Pearson, Jr. 40 724 5.5%
Tim McCreadie 34 402 8.5%
Josh Richards 33 327 10.1%
Brandon Sheppard 28 270 10.4%
Billy Moyer 24 215 11.2%
Tyler Erb 19 223 8.5%
Hudson O'Neal 18 264 6.8%
Chris Madden 17 118 14.4%
Brian Birkhofer 17 131 13.o%
Steve Francis 14 348 4.o%
Bobby Pierce 12 174 6.9%
Shannon Babb 12 178 6.7%
Ray Cook 10 184 5.4%

Where is RTJ in all this? Doesn't he have record # of Lucas wins in a season this yr or did I hear wrong?

[lokwaidid]

There also weren't 4 or 5 classes of late models 15 or 20 years ago. If we took away all of the crate classes in the country I'd bet car counts would stabilize some at weekly shows. Maybe not everywhere, but it would definitely boost the numbers overall.
No one brings up the weak economy when Boone, Iowa gets over 1,000 cars for the Supernationals. They are even planning to build a clone track to accommodate all of the fans and cars. There are record crowds all over for regional and national shows. Nary a word about the weak economy then. It's only mentioned when it's convenient. Maybe weekly shows are suffering because a lot of weekly shows stink.

if you took away all of the crate classes, they mostly would move to mods or sport mods or out altogether. lates are pricing them selfs out of business. what weekly shows??? most tracks have dropped lates because they couldn't even get enough to make a good heat, let alone feature. who will your national tours race against in a few years when there are no local cars that will show up??

[kidrock]

Kid, jd is gonna tell you exactly what he first said lol. Why would he try to change that? Why's it so hard for you and a few other here to grasp actuality? Why r you so silly?

Get a grip dude! Thanks.......... . . .. ..... .

Well it sounds like JD told Sauve the facility was awesome. Kind of what I thought he would say about the place. He's seen his fair share of not so good facilities and Knoxville isn't one of them. I think I grasped a little actuality wouldn't you lol............................................... ........................................

[kidrock]

I think that anyone in a Longhorn is going to be a force to reckon with tonight . That youngi'n Bobby Pierce made life easy for the others by taking a rest from victory lane by staying home ! !

He sure did lol, RTJ and his team are really good right now so, it would have been great to see Bobby there as well. I'm going to be really curious as to how Bobby's car responds after having a new front clip on it

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

if you took away all of the crate classes, they mostly would move to mods or sport mods or out altogether. lates are pricing them selfs out of business. what weekly shows??? most tracks have dropped lates because they couldn't even get enough to make a good heat, let alone feature. who will your national tours race against in a few years when there are no local cars that will show up??

I agree. Those racers would absolutely not return to super late model.

[jr29]

I'd say there are at least a couple hundred crate late models between Georgia, Mississippi, Tennessee, and Alabama. If crates went away some of those cars would absolutely turn into supers. I'm not saying 75% or even 50%, but they wouldn't all drop a class or get out.

[SLlDlNG SIDEWAYS]

Well it sounds like JD told Sauve the facility was awesome. Kind of what I thought he would say about the place. He's seen his fair share of not so good facilities and Knoxville isn't one of them. I think I grasped a little actuality wouldn't you lol............................................... ........................................

You need my stamp of approval, don't ya?

How sweet. Smile

[Paradox28]

someone believed the double boone story! lol

[Paradox28]

other than that..everyone keeps blaming the tracks for the racing..we currently have race cars that can't actually race each other unless they go to small tracks.

[Henry Every]

... When was the last time a track in Georgia had weekly super late models? I want to say 5 years and I think it was Toccoa being the last hold out... Wait Dixie/Rome still do, but they took last year off for Martha's cancer and passing. Besides them I don't know of any others left in the state. Lauren's was the last weekly Super track I knew of in SC and they quit about the same time as Toccoa. Its difficult to watch something I've loved and been a part of so long, be courting death like a drug addict denying the whole way they have an issue tha'ts killing them. I'm just waiting on that call in the middle of the night to tell me its over...

[Pennsboro32]

other than that..everyone keeps blaming the tracks for the racing..we currently have race cars that can't actually race each other unless they go to small tracks.

This…

Big tracks have died because of the cars. But everyone wants to blame the tracks even the drivers who know the cars have an aero problem.

[jr29]

someone believed the double boone story! lol

https://www.speedsport.com/dirt-late-models/super-nationals-tall-tales-twin-boone-speedways-in-2024/

I didn't know Speed Sport was a satire site.

[Paradox28]

https://www.speedsport.com/dirt-late-models/super-nationals-tall-tales-twin-boone-speedways-in-2024/ I didn't know Speed Sport was a satire site.the end of the article lets the cat out of the bag

[jr29]

the end of the article lets the cat out of the bag

You are right.
That seems a little irresponsible. It also sounds a little ambiguous.