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ftfiowa
09-16-2023, 09:21 PM
thru 27 of 75 laps 20rt & 157 have exchANGED THE lead 4 times. 11 hughes caused 1st caution with oil leak,but fixes it under yellow

ftfiowa
09-16-2023, 09:24 PM
yellow lap 40 for 18d wilson
20rt leads, 40b the killer up to 2nd!

ftfiowa
09-16-2023, 09:26 PM
51, 7, 99jr, 62 have dnf'ed by lap 40

top 5: 20rt, 40b, 157,4, 8s

ftfiowa
09-16-2023, 09:28 PM
16, 98, 18d, 22 pile up in turn 3 on lap 41 restart...red flag out

intel8
09-16-2023, 09:34 PM
1 antique tow truck and a oil burning rollback, penny pinching at Knoxville, lol.....

ftfiowa
09-16-2023, 09:37 PM
all drivers ok after accident, bruening may have some leg pain from the hit.

ftfiowa
09-16-2023, 09:46 PM
lap 55 top 5: 20rt,40b,157, 1h oneal,4 overton

ftfiowa
09-16-2023, 09:48 PM
bronson HARD into turn 3 wall with 16 to go, red flag

ftfiowa
09-16-2023, 09:49 PM
bronson is ok

ftfiowa
09-16-2023, 10:08 PM
20rt wins
2. 157
3. 1
4. 49
5. 4
6. 18
7. 8s
8. 99
9. 39 from 26th, was 7th on last restart

KTMLew
09-16-2023, 10:09 PM
bronson HARD into turn 3 wall with 16 to go, red flag

Thought that car was torn up worse than it was. Since nose was gone looked like front clip was rolled up. Didn't look that bad on the hook. Wasn't good but not as bad as I expected.

jog49
09-16-2023, 10:36 PM
The attendance seemed skimpy for a big purse race but I realize it was not sprints.

TerryM
09-16-2023, 10:53 PM
The attendance seemed skimpy for a big purse race but I realize it was not sprints.
Skimpy? That’s putting it mildly. I thought it was the worst attendance I’ve ever seen at a supposed “big show”. Worst Thursday attendance, worst Friday attendance, and worst Saturday attendance. That’s a trifecta you don’t want to lay claim to. If that happened anywhere else, the track would probably be dropped from the schedule.

SLIDING SIDEWAYS
09-16-2023, 11:06 PM
Glad to see tmac advance forward for a change

intel8
09-16-2023, 11:14 PM
Saturday night was a nice crowd, don't know what you saw on TV, I was there.

TowerView
09-17-2023, 12:03 AM
The attendance seemed skimpy for a big purse race but I realize it was not sprints.

Not skimpy

84wedge
09-17-2023, 12:10 AM
RTJ's kids in victory lane were the best thing about the weekend.

TBSprintFan
09-17-2023, 03:21 AM
Saturday night was a nice crowd, don't know what you saw on TV, I was there.

I also was there and there was definitely a nice crowd tonight and also the other nights were decent too. I think some do not realize how big the front straight grandstands are and that's not counting how many were in the suites.

Highside Hustler25
09-17-2023, 05:45 AM
Saturday night was a nice crowd, don't know what you saw on TV, I was there.

Yeah, well we seen you on the tv and you can say what you want. That was the smallest crowd I have ever seen for a crown jewel event. Aerial shot during feature showed 1/4 full stands.
I guess most were all in the restrooms.

kidrock
09-17-2023, 06:12 AM
How many fans does this facility hold in the first place. I mean front stretch and back stretch plus the suites?

SLlDlNG SIDEWAYS
09-17-2023, 07:33 AM
I've never seen anyone on the back stretch and I've seen a few sprint races there.

SLlDlNG SIDEWAYS
09-17-2023, 07:40 AM
20rt wins
2. 157
3. 1
4. 49
5. 4
6. 18
7. 8s
8. 99
9. 39 from 26th, was 7th on last restartDam good run for Timmy! Wonder what they changed after the preliminaries to run so good in that "A".

KTMLew
09-17-2023, 10:03 AM
The spectators have to sit high in the stands to see over the hauler. Makes them hard to see on the feed. Saw one person say around 3000 spectators. But it's also Sprint car central. They just don't care for SLM there.

Barbecueboy
09-17-2023, 10:33 AM
The place is huge, the suites looked pretty full and looked like a great time being had in those things.

Love to see them do a show like they do at Charlotte and have both classes one weekend? Would give the sprint fans a chance to see good late model racing and the late model fans a chance to see the good sprint car stuff?

Patansplant
09-17-2023, 11:28 AM
Front stretch seating capacity almost 13,000. Back stretch about 7,400. There are 33 VIP Suites. Total including suites about 20,300. Looks empty at times but there are more people there than you think.

intel8
09-17-2023, 11:57 AM
Yeah, well we seen you on the tv and you can say what you want. That was the smallest crowd I have ever seen for a crown jewel event. Aerial shot during feature showed 1/4 full stands.
I guess most were all in the restrooms.

I think you need to schedule an optometrist appointment soon or upgrade your 17 inch tv, lol....

SLlDlNG SIDEWAYS
09-17-2023, 02:00 PM
I think you need to schedule an optometrist appointment soon or upgrade your 17 inch tv, lol....

A gynecologist would serve well too for hh, sense we're scheduling appointments. Grin

jog49
09-17-2023, 10:33 PM
Maybe I forgot to capitalize . . . SKIMPY, SKIMPY, and more SKIMPY! Maybe 10% of seating capacity for $50,000?

drich24
09-17-2023, 10:44 PM
Been to the last 12 Knoxville LM Nats. Felt like attendance on Saturday was down a little from the past. Still a really nice crowd and the feature Sat. night was excellent. RTJ and Marlar duking it out in heavy traffic was a fantastic battle.

jog49
09-17-2023, 11:15 PM
That's not the point. Fans go to Charlotte to see drivers race for $12,000 each night and attendance is 20,000+. They go to Knoxville to see drivers race for $7,000/$7,000/$50,000 and it draws 3,000? I know it's the mecca of sprint car racing but that's ridiculous. Speaking of Charlotte though, when the sprint cars are first on the program, their fans get up, in mass, when it's over and leave the track. Apparently, they don't know what they are missing with the SLMs. However, when the SLMs are first on the program, their fans don't leave but stay to watch the sprints. Always seemed to be a very narrow focus.

drich24
09-17-2023, 11:40 PM
What is your point? Trying to compare a late model only race with a race with the top three dirt divisions at one track, what do you expect? Add in there is a much larger population base surrounding Charlotte than Knoxville, of course you’re going to have more fans at Charlotte.

Not sure where you are getting 3000 fans, do you have some insight into the attendance or the gate receipts for Knoxville? As far as the racing goes, it has been consistently very good each year and the series, track, fans, and drivers all seem to be perfectly satisfied.

jog49
09-17-2023, 11:59 PM
Charlotte was overflowing when they had The Colossal which, by the way, I hear will be reinstated.

I saw what everyone else saw and the attendance was poor, in my opinion, for a high dollar race.

Mod Runner
09-18-2023, 03:04 AM
Last year I went to the Knoxville Nationals Sprint Car Race. When I got there, all the grandstand seats were sold out. I had to get a pit pass to see the race and watch the race from the infield. Knoxville is Sprint Car Country.

riddle28
09-18-2023, 08:14 AM
thats like comparing a brickyard nascar race crowd to indy 500 crowd. its not gonna be the same and the massive stands will make it look smaller everytime

ImCryn2
09-18-2023, 02:00 PM
This conversation comes up every year.

ImCryn2
09-18-2023, 02:01 PM
Front stretch seating capacity almost 13,000. Back stretch about 7,400. There are 33 VIP Suites. Total including suites about 20,300. Looks empty at times but there are more people there than you think.

Math is not your strong suit I see. ;)

Patansplant
09-18-2023, 02:13 PM
Ok next time I'll include the change as if it makes a rats a$$.

weatherman85
09-18-2023, 02:33 PM
thats like comparing a brickyard nascar race crowd to indy 500 crowd. its not gonna be the same and the massive stands will make it look smaller everytime

Pretty good comparison for this situation. The visual is an eye sore that gets shown on TV but they must be attracting enough butts every year to keep bringing it back or someone somewhere has enough money that they don't care to piss away some.

zach51
09-18-2023, 03:00 PM
Has anybody thought that maybe starting this event 5 days after the World 100 ends keeps a lot of the traveling late model crowd away? Unless you are retired, most people have limited vacation, and taking 2-3 days off work back-to-back weeks is tough for most. And the World will always get the nod if you had to choose, unless you just lived so much closer to Knoxville.

If definitely keeps some CARS away....

Highside Hustler25
09-18-2023, 03:32 PM
Has anybody thought that maybe starting this event 5 days after the World 100 ends keeps a lot of the traveling late model crowd away? Unless you are retired, most people have limited vacation, and taking 2-3 days off work back-to-back weeks is tough for most. And the World will always get the nod if you had to choose, unless you just lived so much closer to Knoxville.

If definitely keeps some CARS away....

Yes and yes.

ImCryn2
09-20-2023, 02:12 PM
Ok next time I'll include the change as if it makes a rats a$$.


"Front stretch seating capacity almost 13,000. Back stretch about 7,400. There are 33 VIP Suites. Total including suites about 20,300"

You did include it, you just couldn't add it!!!

SLlDlNG SIDEWAYS
09-20-2023, 04:51 PM
^ yet, they wonder why... L!