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ss12
02-06-2024, 11:17 AM
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/appeals-court-rules-trump-presidential-immunity-2020-election-interfer-rcna133234

Let the crying began.

ss12
02-06-2024, 12:57 PM
How long until Ron DeSantis jumps back in the race?

Barbecueboy
02-06-2024, 01:18 PM
About 4 years and 7 months from now …….we need to let the guy thats going to be in the White House from 24 to 28 govern first.

ss12
02-06-2024, 03:33 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHOYw2lDj20

lurker
02-06-2024, 04:34 PM
This part I whole heartedly disagree with.


"For the purpose of this criminal case, former President Trump has become citizen Trump, with all of the defenses of any other criminal defendant. But any executive immunity that may have protected him while he served as President no longer protects him against this prosecution," the 57-page ruling said.


That’s one slippery slope, and can come back to bite our entire Judicial System in the b*tt in the future.

If that applies to Presidents, it will apply all the way down to Mayors.



Ty Cobb, a former attorney for Trump who dealt with Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election and who's been a critic of his false stolen election claims, called the ruling “one of the most profound constitutional opinions in our history.” “It will dominate, along with a half dozen other core constitutional cases, in law schools for the next 100 years. It’s that significant and it’s that well done,” he said.

TS FAN
02-06-2024, 04:42 PM
This means absolutely nothing. Stop listening to left wing media. Or SS who gets his jollies from cutting and paste. if you look closely to what was said, it means little.

lurker
02-06-2024, 04:47 PM
I sure hope you’re right TS FAN.

ss12
02-06-2024, 05:48 PM
Yes, TS it means very little all it means it the court can proceed with their criminal cases against the conman. Please send your hard-earned money to help him fight against justices.

ss12
02-06-2024, 05:52 PM
Lurker, do you think the supreme court will hear it or not?

lurker
02-06-2024, 06:14 PM
My gut says yes. Why do you ask?

Furthering what I said earlier, and response to TS FAN.

Left wing media or not, what I quoted and pasted from your link disturbs me that a Good President, all the way down to a Good Mayor, with Good Intentions for “We The People” could possibly be (in the future) prosecuted for something, after office, on a whim --- just because.

Then again, maybe I’m all wet and am reading to much into all of this??

lurker
02-06-2024, 06:26 PM
It sets a bad precedence --- is what I’m getting at.

Buford.Justice
02-06-2024, 07:47 PM
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/appeals-court-rules-trump-presidential-immunity-2020-election-interfer-rcna133234

Let the crying began.

Why? Anger for radical leftist and often compromised judges calling the shots again is the right feeling. Corrupt government is what you voted for ss and you got it.

Buford.Justice
02-06-2024, 07:48 PM
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/appeals-court-rules-trump-presidential-immunity-2020-election-interfer-rcna133234

Let the crying began.

Election interference wins again....

Buford.Justice
02-06-2024, 07:50 PM
How long until Ron DeSantis jumps back in the race?

5 years maybe.....

Then the left will start impeaching him..... That is, if they don't steal the election.

ss12
02-06-2024, 07:53 PM
Buford he still has a chance, he just said he will appeal to the supreme court.

ss12
02-06-2024, 07:55 PM
Luker, here is Ty Cobbs tonight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp4xaM6Cj6A

Buford.Justice
02-06-2024, 07:58 PM
What in reality must happen is, that Trump wins the election and the Republicans win the house and senate. And then all those involved in treason and other crimes be brought to court and pronounced guilty AS CHARGED, and as they are in reality. You want names? You know who they are. Many are not even elected government officials.

The military complex gets reigned in and written actual laws in this nation are restored.

Then the nation could actually start to heal and become what the founders made it to be.

SS you documented Idiot. hahahahahaa

Buford.Justice
02-06-2024, 08:02 PM
Luker, here is Ty Cobbs tonight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp4xaM6Cj6A

ss it is so childish of you to keep presenting all of this fake media propaganda.

lurker
02-07-2024, 12:15 AM
Luker, here is Ty Cobbs tonight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp4xaM6Cj6A



I normally don’t click your YT video links, but this one I thought I should, beings how we are having an adult and civil conversation.

First thing popped up it was from CNN, I clicked out of it immediately. Sorry, I don’t do far leftist news networks. Nor do I do far right, like Fox.

That said, just give me the crux of what it says, please, and I‘ll comment.

lurker
02-07-2024, 12:18 AM
Lurker, do you think the supreme court will hear it or not?

My gut says yes. Why do you ask?

lurker
02-07-2024, 12:23 AM
What in reality must happen is, that Trump wins the election

Trump will never win the electoral college in 2024. And the popular vote is totally irrelevant.

Buford.Justice
02-07-2024, 10:07 AM
lurker, FOX far right? Four hours a day maybe....

Murdock wants the illegal invasion.. And the militant Haley as president.

TS FAN
02-07-2024, 12:44 PM
I still say this is nothing but a lot of noise and legal mumble jumble. What I will say is the impeaching needs to stop. It is waste of time and tax dollars. You wonder why people are so turned off by Government. Then for Trump haters you offer up a demented Old man, who needs to be living in a retirement community.

What is really at issue is the foreign powers, who are our enemies, ramping up serious situations because we have bunch of weak kneed apologists running the Country. Trump has a record of when he was President and it is a good one. If nothing else, he will protect this Country.

Buford.Justice
02-07-2024, 03:37 PM
Trump will never win the electoral college in 2024. And the popular vote is totally irrelevant.

Who would get more votes then? MAGA is a massive number of people.

I'm yet to understand what policies Trump is proposing or actually did while in office were not good. I also don't understand calling people far right when they are in reality are just conservative to even moderate people who understand that freedom for the people and commerce are for the best.

Just what is far right? Is that wanting secured borders? Is that wanting to fight against abortions? Is that being a religious person even though many churches are now morally corrupt?

Is wanting a government that is elected, not selected, being far right?

Is not wanting porn in the entire schol system being far right?

I just want to know what far right means.

We have a dictator now and a dishonest media that wants to claim Trump plans on being a dictator, just trying to restore the constitution, law and order to the nation.

What is wrong with MAGA. If this is a concept that is out of order I want to know why it is.

Do you beleive the elections actually honest and that Biden actually got 80 million votes?

Have you listened or seen any recent Trump rallies? Nodody has ever gotten crowds like this.

Why do the major networks show up at his rallies and shut their cameras off every time he says something they don't want to see? Why have they censored his voice. Even that bad ole far right FOX has too.

Are you believing the elections will be stolen as why he would not win the electoral?

Buford.Justice
02-07-2024, 03:56 PM
If Democrat citizens had a choice, why would RFK not be their top choice. Dem citizens don't seem to understand that their party has long left them.

TS FAN
02-07-2024, 03:59 PM
There will be a crooked bias conviction of some nature right before the Election to stem the tide. It doesn't have to have real legs, it only has to have the crooked left wing Courts get some kind of conviction. This is the plan.

Media lying once again to the voters. This is why the Reps better get the early voting going full steam this time around or we are going to have Mr. Magoo for a about a month and then handed off to the laughing lunatic who is a disaster of the greatest proportions.

ZERO25
02-07-2024, 04:08 PM
Let the crying began.

Whats your address so I can deliver a free case of Puffs, with lotion........after election night! TRUMP2024

lurker
02-07-2024, 06:42 PM
Clayton,

Anyone running against Trump will get MORE electoral college votes. MAGA, popular votes won’t win the election. I think you have electoral collage votes, and popular votes, confused, and which of the two, wins the election.

lurker
02-07-2024, 06:50 PM
It’s the Electoral College, not the national popular vote, that determines who wins the presidency. - https://www.nytimes.com/article/the-electoral-college.html

Buford.Justice
02-07-2024, 08:15 PM
I know what electoral votes are but you have to have enough votes period to get the electoral ones.

Trump won 2497 out of 3143 counties in 2020, but the massive illegal cheating in the big cities swayed him from actually winning many more.

It is fact that voter fraud is massive.

So that is how they win again this time? Who the hell wants to actually vote for that A-wipe, they cheat. Biden or ANYONE they select?

Selection 2024 where the majority no longer counts?

You are saying the corrupt voting in the big cities will get the Dems the most electorals?

lurker
02-07-2024, 08:41 PM
----- but you have to have enough votes period to get the electoral ones.

Not true. Just ask Hillary.

lurker
02-07-2024, 08:45 PM
You are saying the corrupt voting in the big cities will get the Dems the most electorals?

No, I’m saying Trump won’t win the electoral college votes in 2024.

Buford.Justice
02-08-2024, 10:42 AM
Not true. Just ask Hillary.

Hillary would lie as they cheated in that election too, they just did not realize that they didn't cheat big enough.

Hillary actually lost the popular vote count. If the election had been totally honest. I understand that many people don't believe that.

TS FAN
02-09-2024, 07:15 AM
It is official, after last night's report from the AG on Biden's mental state, which anyone paying attention knows, and that includes you SS12, we have no idea who or what is running the Country.

Yes, we can all make guesses, but we really don't know. The funny thing is, at least 50% of People want to re-elect this entity. This confirms millions of people are clueless, haters and if you don't agree with them, they call you a racist. Really a sad state of affairs to be sure

Buford.Justice
02-09-2024, 10:18 AM
In an honest voting system Trump will win in a landslide. He is that popular. I know the media keeps trying to hide this fact, but it's true.

ss12
02-09-2024, 02:42 PM
Here is cult45 AG.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KHcwGczmlLg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_heil0kbV8

Former Trump National Security Advisor John Bolton: The Room Where It Happened

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY-8b_S3QlY

Ex-Trump aide Peter Navarro ordered to prison despite contempt appeal. Cult45 only picks the best(?) criminals to govern the Whitehouse.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/08/peter-navarro-prison-sentence-contempt-congress

Raceready
02-09-2024, 03:41 PM
In an honest voting system Trump will win in a landslide. He is that popular. I know the media keeps trying to hide this fact, but it's true.For the 3rd time ! !

Buford.Justice
02-09-2024, 04:13 PM
Here is cult45 AG.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KHcwGczmlLg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_heil0kbV8

Former Trump National Security Advisor John Bolton: The Room Where It Happened

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY-8b_S3QlY

Ex-Trump aide Peter Navarro ordered to prison despite contempt appeal. Cult45 only picks the best(?) criminals to govern the Whitehouse.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/08/peter-navarro-prison-sentence-contempt-congress

So in the future ANY person in office can be charged of made up crimes after they leave office and go to prison? This is just what you are supporting.

You would not be so happy if Republicans controlled the house and senate and many of the courts.

Then Hillary by actually comitting REAL crimes like Benghazi, and scrubbing her emails would result in her going to prison.

BTW Trump has never been proven of ANY crimes, just crimes and charges they make up.

Reps controlling the government would result in election crimes actually coming to court and many people going to prison.

Democrat in office have ruined this nation. Sometimes with the aid of RINO's.

There are actually too many people running our government that don't beleive in it's very founding, and actually hate Amereican citizens in general.

ss you are past educating as you already know it all (nothing actually) but others just want the truth.

lurker
02-09-2024, 05:11 PM
In an honest voting system Trump will win in a landslide. He is that popular. I know the media keeps trying to hide this fact, but it's true.

Again Clayton, the popular vote means nothing and wins nothing --- but being the most popular.

While Trump might win the popular vote (under your said conditions that you speak of, no cheating) it garners him nothing, including being President.


Question?????????????

Noting I read all of your posts and links ---

Why do you insist that Trump WOULD HAVE won the 2020 election, and WILL win the 2024 election when you know good and well he will never win the electoral votes needed to become President.

Say for a minute I agree with you on the cheating aspect of your view point, if THEY are cheating, why do you still insist Trump won in 2020, and he’ll win in 2024?

I’m trying to follow your point(s) but I can not rationalize how you are getting to your conclusions.

lurker
02-09-2024, 05:21 PM
Ex-Trump aide Peter Navarro ordered to prison despite contempt appeal. Cult45 only picks the best(?) criminals to govern the Whitehouse.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/08/peter-navarro-prison-sentence-contempt-congress

The Judge in question, Amit Mehta, is a Obama appointee. SMH!!!

Buford.Justice
02-09-2024, 07:38 PM
Here is cult45 AG.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KHcwGczmlLg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_heil0kbV8

Former Trump National Security Advisor John Bolton: The Room Where It Happened

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY-8b_S3QlY

Ex-Trump aide Peter Navarro ordered to prison despite contempt appeal. Cult45 only picks the best(?) criminals to govern the Whitehouse.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/08/peter-navarro-prison-sentence-contempt-congress

Pete Navarro is no criminal. Unless being patriotic is against the law. Is supporting Trump against the law ss? huh huh huh

Criminals are running the white house right now, you doofus!!!

Raceready
02-10-2024, 12:52 PM
Pete Navarro is no criminal. Unless being patriotic is against the law. Is supporting Trump against the law ss? huh huh huhCriminals are running the white house right now, you doofus!!!Gee I hope that being patriotic isn't against the law otherwise my whole county and my neighboring counties of supporters of The Honorable Mr. Trump would be in the slammer ! !

Buford.Justice
02-10-2024, 01:21 PM
Looks like the Judge is determined to put Navarro in jail.

Judge denies Peter Navarro's bid to remain out of prison .

Navarro's effort to block an order requiring him to hand the government 200 to 250 emails that he sent using a private email account during his time in the Trump administration.

I guess he should have deleted them and destroyed his computer, like Hillary????

He has the goods on many of these criminals and they know it.

It pains me to show any sources as they are ALL are screened by Google to show left wing medias only.
People have to read their twisted crap as legit.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/appeals-court-denies-peter-navarros-effort-keep-hundreds-emails-rcna79491

TS FAN
02-10-2024, 02:23 PM
I deleted my post. Its not that I don't feel that way, but was aggravated and there is no real reason to say the obvious

Buford.Justice
02-11-2024, 03:39 PM
I deleted my post. Its not that I don't feel that way, but was aggravated and there is no real reason to say the obvious


Afraid you're gonna get "swatted" next TS??????? Cincinnati's a liberal hot bed and now you're running scared. hahahhahaahaa

TS FAN
02-11-2024, 04:15 PM
I live in Clermont County though, and that is a Trump hot bed. LOL.
The post was kind of a rehash of what I have been saying.

BTW Great racing this week at East Bay, one of the best in years.

Buford.Justice
02-11-2024, 04:53 PM
Anyway, we must counter lies with "the obvious" on here thanks to ss. :)