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fryefan
02-13-2024, 06:37 PM
The USAC non-wing cars are racier than the Dirt-Car late models. After a lap or two, the late model heats are a parade.

ftfiowa
02-13-2024, 07:04 PM
aero on lms needs reduced big time

riddle28
02-14-2024, 06:08 AM
The USAC non-wing cars are racier than the Dirt-Car late models. After a lap or two, the late model heats are a parade.

non wings race so much better than winged cars, id rather see a week of them than the big block mods

Driver50x
02-14-2024, 06:12 AM
Absolutely. Taking the wing of a sprinter makes the racing a ton better. Taking the “built in” wings off a late model would do the same for them.

MasterSbilt_Racer
02-14-2024, 08:57 AM
You all are 100% correct. Apparently, the powers that can act are blind. Even going back 10 years on the nose would be a start

TS FAN
02-14-2024, 11:49 AM
NON Wing Sprints are where talent comes out to shine. I like all forms of racing, but when you can wheel one of these and win, You can wheel anything. See Stewart, Larson, Gordon and Bell just for starters. Of course there are a few from earlier, who can do it all too

Driver50x
02-14-2024, 12:03 PM
Well said, TS FAN.

Highside Hustler25
02-14-2024, 04:47 PM
Their is a ton of young talent in the open wheel world right now. Wing and non wing. Corey Day, Zeb Wise, and my personal fave, Emerson Axom are just a few.

Rajflyboy
02-14-2024, 05:19 PM
Watching non wings can really suck unless the series has plenty of push cars i

kidrock
02-14-2024, 05:45 PM
Lots of talent in the open wheel ranks. Watched the High Limit last night from Eastbay.

fryefan
02-14-2024, 08:34 PM
The non-wings generally are racier than the winged cars. With that being said, the best sprint car races are flat out awesome.

blncfn57
02-15-2024, 12:48 PM
You all are 100% correct. Apparently, the powers that can act are blind. Even going back 10 years on the nose would be a start

I do not think they have any interest in fixing it. They seem to base their success by how many tickets and streaming subscriptions are sold.

Henry Every
02-15-2024, 03:53 PM
I do not think they have any interest in fixing it. They seem to base their success by how many tickets and streaming subscriptions are sold. They won't notice anything is amiss untill its far too late, they behave just like a government.

lurker
02-15-2024, 05:43 PM
Some of on here are old enough to remember when DLM’s raced as competitively as non-wing sprint cars.

lurker
02-15-2024, 05:45 PM
We have our own thread on Indiana Open Wheel.

Opinions on USAC From Late Model Fans - https://www.indianaopenwheel.com/showthread.php?t=125109

84wedge
02-16-2024, 10:07 AM
19 out of 23 national tour races have been won from the first two rows. 4 out of 5 Bobby Pierce wins were from the front row and all of Hudson O'Neal wins have been from the front. I make fun of NASCAR rules making their way to dirt all the time but at least you're not all but guaranteed a win if you start in the first 4.

ZERO25
02-16-2024, 12:50 PM
Daum went over the fence and nearly into the parking lot last nite at Bubba's!

You can see the replay at USAC Racing's fb page!

Highside Hustler25
02-16-2024, 01:22 PM
Daum went over the fence and nearly into the parking lot last nite at Bubba's!

You can see the replay at USAC Racing's fb page!

He put a hurtin on the guard rail when he went out.

Josh Bayko
02-16-2024, 01:40 PM
Two different cars went yard at Ocala last night. I dig non-wing stuff way more than I dig winged cars, but they do have a propensity to have a few flips a night, and a lot of them are pretty wild.

TS FAN
02-16-2024, 04:17 PM
Last night the dirt LM really put on a show and the front row starters all but disappeared. As for winning too often from the front row, this is true. How do you fix it? Invert more cars. Will it happen? Nope.

In the old days the fastest cars started on the tail in the feature. This is what made it seem like the racing was more competitive and it was fun to watch. Never happen any more. Too much money invested in every part of the sport. At least some of your bigger events make things a lot more interesting. World 100, Florence N/S are two that makes it tricky to land on the front row. I like it.

Highside Hustler25
02-16-2024, 06:21 PM
Anybody know who caught the gator last night?
I'm figuring it's someone from down south. Us folks farther north don't play that game.

MasterSbilt_Racer
02-16-2024, 08:06 PM
Last night the dirt LM really put on a show and the front row starters all but disappeared. As for winning too often from the front row, this is true. How do you fix it? Invert more cars. Will it happen? Nope.

In the old days the fastest cars started on the tail in the feature. This is what made it seem like the racing was more competitive and it was fun to watch. Never happen any more. Too much money invested in every part of the sport. At least some of your bigger events make things a lot more interesting. World 100, Florence N/S are two that makes it tricky to land on the front row. I like it.

You fix it by fixing the cars. They can't pass

Local shows used to start fast guys in the back. Not big money events.