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HoosierDirtFan
02-18-2024, 05:04 PM
Saw a post on social media about BASE causing engine damage.


Effective immediately, we will no longer be carrying or associated with base fuels. Multiple engine builders and customers complaining about engine damage from fuel.

TRocket8
02-19-2024, 08:58 AM
Bobby Pierce switched from BASE to VP last year in the middle of the season.

MasterSbilt_Racer
02-19-2024, 09:12 AM
E85. From your local pump

jog49
02-19-2024, 09:41 AM
Like you and I with food, every engine likes one fuel better than others. Experiment and you might find out.

zyoung25
02-19-2024, 01:48 PM
E85. From your local pump

We don't have that over here on my side of the state 😂

I wish we did. My jeep would gain about 100hp just by switching fuels.

Henry Every
02-19-2024, 05:15 PM
CAM2 or Turbo Blue

Kromulous
02-20-2024, 09:15 AM
Compression ratios as high as the are now days, you have to be very careful, detonation is very close with the best fuel.

Compression is power, pure and simple, but $$$

I think most of the Top Teams nowadays are on VP, usally in the 116 octane region. Late Model Plus they call it i believe. There are other factors than octance rating, but thats overly techincal.

over4T
02-20-2024, 09:27 AM
We generally out here are on Sunoco race fuels which work fine. Used to run the old 260 pump stuff back in the day. Run VP on occasion with no problems. Can't get Base but generally most race fuels, in theory, should have little difference. Waaay back my dad had a new Dodge that would barely run the couple of times he put Texaco in it although my cars ran OK with it so there was obviously some difference in the local pump gas.

riddle28
02-20-2024, 09:28 AM
Im a VP dealer so ill say them, sunoco is good too. The way the base owner flipped out a few years ago on people over his logo made me realize ill never spend a dollar on a base product. To be fair most of the dirt world knows very little about engines and tuning one for weather and regional changes, compared to drag racers

Highside Hustler25
02-20-2024, 01:58 PM
I think most of the Top Teams nowadays are on VP, usally in the 116 octane region. Late Model Plus they call it i believe. There are other factors than octance rating, but thats overly techincal.

This.,...........................

zyoung25
02-20-2024, 07:36 PM
The way the base owner flipped out a few years ago on people over his logo made me realize ill never spend a dollar on a base product.

That whole deal was weird. Ive seen where several wrap companies will not even print his logo because he will send them a cease and desist letter in the mail if it's not the "right color."

crazyt
02-21-2024, 12:36 AM
That whole deal was weird. Ive seen where several wrap companies will not even print his logo because he will send them a cease and desist letter in the mail if it's not the "right color."

I don’t remember who it was but I remember seeing picture of a car after wrapping it that in plain letters base logo here and someone asked about it and the response from he wrap guy was i ain’t dealing with that headache he wants it on the car he can supply the decal himself

Pennsboro32
02-21-2024, 07:33 AM
I've sponsored cars and had our logo slightly altered or colors changed. Never once did I care. That whole base logo debacle was stupid.

Barbecueboy
02-21-2024, 08:03 AM
The logo itself is outdated and stupid.

ZERO25
02-21-2024, 09:00 PM
I don’t remember who it was but I remember seeing picture of a car after wrapping it that in plain letters base logo here and someone asked about it and the response from he wrap guy was i ain’t dealing with that headache he wants it on the car he can supply the decal himself

Brian Green with Top Notch!

dirtcrazy4u
02-22-2024, 04:28 AM
There was a time when fuel was getting out of control cost wise. I know there was a lab up around the Md. area that was getting big bucks for a drum of there product. It came from top NHRA guys running it and was discovered to work extremely well in high compression motors. To old to remember exactly where it came from, but a lot of the top drivers in the NE would run it for a big show. I do remember the cost was crazy, if you pd 300 for a drum this stuff was costing 900 a drum.

over4T
02-22-2024, 09:24 AM
There was a time when fuel was getting out of control cost wise. I know there was a lab up around the Md. area that was getting big bucks for a drum of there product. It came from top NHRA guys running it and was discovered to work extremely well in high compression motors. To old to remember exactly where it came from, but a lot of the top drivers in the NE would run it for a big show. I do remember the cost was crazy, if you pd 300 for a drum this stuff was costing 900 a drum.

Don't know what part of the country you're in but fuel prices on the left coast are nuts. A few years ago I had a deal with a distributor in Nevada for Sunoco 110 @ $7.40/gallon. Lost that when they shut down the race fuel division. Next couple years it was $10/same stuff out of Sacramento distributor. Last year it went to $14/gallon and burning 10-15 gallons per night is a serious part of the budget when we're generally running for $500-1,000 to win. Best prices we can find are at an Indian casino/resort/gas station in the Central Valley @ $9. when we're in the neighborhood of Sonoma Raceway in the Bay Area we hit the pumps there where Sunoco 112, 114 and 116 are each @ $10. Racing aint no po'boy sport no more.

fastford
02-23-2024, 10:26 AM
There was a time when fuel was getting out of control cost wise. I know there was a lab up around the Md. area that was getting big bucks for a drum of there product. It came from top NHRA guys running it and was discovered to work extremely well in high compression motors. To old to remember exactly where it came from, but a lot of the top drivers in the NE would run it for a big show. I do remember the cost was crazy, if you pd 300 for a drum this stuff was costing 900 a drum.

that sounds like oxygenated fuel we tried one time a while back , it was 3 times the cost of regular racing fuel , never saw enough gain to matter in a circle track application , we only run E85 now which is better than all of it.....jmo....

dirtcrazy4u
02-23-2024, 06:12 PM
Don't know what part of the country you're in but fuel prices on the left coast are nuts. A few years ago I had a deal with a distributor in Nevada for Sunoco 110 @ $7.40/gallon. Lost that when they shut down the race fuel division. Next couple years it was $10/same stuff out of Sacramento distributor. Last year it went to $14/gallon and burning 10-15 gallons per night is a serious part of the budget when we're generally running for $500-1,000 to win. Best prices we can find are at an Indian casino/resort/gas station in the Central Valley @ $9. when we're in the neighborhood of Sonoma Raceway in the Bay Area we hit the pumps there where Sunoco 112, 114 and 116 are each @ $10. Racing aint no po'boy sport no more.


over4T, the prices I was showing was a really lonnnnnggggg time ago. I realize what your saying .