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noitall93w
04-30-2024, 01:50 PM
Didn’t make it through April on tour. I am really shocked by this news.

Henry Every
04-30-2024, 04:34 PM
Might be smarter from a resources stand point to race closer during the R&D period than chasing a national tour. Sure pride wants to run natty, but wallet says something else.

KTMLew
04-30-2024, 06:29 PM
Not much of a surprise that Capital isn't top rung stuff as for speed. HTF loves the Capital stuff for it's "kit car" like build. Said they believe, from their experience with half-dozen different chassis manufacturers, easiest to assemble. I know some will bash that statement. They were just saying, if you starting out and want something to learn with, Capital is way to go. Takes few years to learn how to build/assemble stuff. The Longhorn stuff apparently isn't consistently easy to put together. May be as simple as who does the powdercoat? IDK?

noitall93w
05-01-2024, 07:53 AM
Yeah my comment was sarcasm everyone knew it was coming.

raburke23
05-01-2024, 04:32 PM
Some of these guys commit to the tour to go after sponsor dollars and get Provisionals for speedweek and never intend to truly follow the tour.

zyoung25
05-01-2024, 10:02 PM
Chassis switch on the horizon

Henry Every
05-06-2024, 11:06 AM
Chassis switch on the horizon Always possible with TJ, he seems to change chassis like most people change underwear. To me if your gonna sign on to do "R&D" you shouldn't expect a winning car, everybody knows Capitol is a bit off on the national stage, but with some time and effort maybe they can rebound. I personally prefer more chassis diversity in an organic way, not thru DEI, if you know what I mean. I would think doing some focused testing would yield better results than running up and down the road, but thats just me. Wish them well, its a tough business anymore, with tour politics and too much outside money distorting the DLM economy, not to mention lax rule enforcement, rule makers without a clue and series wanting to emulate other failing greedy woke organizations as the desired benchmark.

KTMLew
05-06-2024, 11:12 AM
Always possible with TJ, he seems to change chassis like most people change underwear. To me if your gonna sign on to do "R&D" you shouldn't expect a winning car, everybody knows Capitol is a bit off on the national stage, but with some time and effort maybe they can rebound. I personally prefer more chassis diversity in an organic way, not thru DEI, if you know what I mean. I would think doing some focused testing would yield better results than running up and down the road, but thats just me. Wish them well, its a tough business anymore, with tour politics and too much outside money distorting the DLM economy, not to mention lax rule enforcement, rule makers without a clue and series wanting to emulate other failing greedy woke organizations as the desired benchmark.

Shocks. Need to buy half dozen different manufacturers set-up and see which one is better. Maybe $30-40K?

MasterSbilt_Racer
05-06-2024, 11:51 AM
Shocks. Need to buy half dozen different manufacturers set-up and see which one is better. Maybe $30-40K?

That would be a horrible waste of money

KTMLew
05-06-2024, 12:41 PM
That would be a horrible waste of money

Pick your poison. Sell off what didn't work. Surely wouldn't lose that much. I find it hard to believe there's a ton of difference in say the top six chassis builders.

What shocks do you run or is that a secret? You aren't running top level SLM though are you? Local stuff only?

Don't mean that as harshly as it sounds.

MasterSbilt_Racer
05-06-2024, 12:52 PM
Pick your poison. Sell off what didn't work. Surely wouldn't lose that much. I find it hard to believe there's a ton of difference in say the top six chassis builders.

What shocks do you run or is that a secret? You aren't running top level SLM though are you? Local stuff only?

Don't mean that as harshly as it sounds.

Run regional/ local stuff against guys with the same stuff as the Lucas guys. That's the only racers left racing. There's almost zero guys left that don't have a new horn or rocket. I run whatever I get a deal on and get it valved to suit what I need.
Mostly run ohlins though.

Only the valve curve matters. Brand means nothing.

MasterSbilt_Racer
05-06-2024, 12:55 PM
Yes, all the cars are pretty close. But a small change in some suspension attachment points can yield a big difference in how a car drives.

MasterSbilt_Racer
05-06-2024, 01:01 PM
The shocks are adjustable for a reason. You'll get a lot further testing than just bolting random shocks on your car. Every brand can't achieve the exact same shape of curve, but any of them can work well. Who built it? was it tuned to what you need? All of this way more important than brand sticker on the side

KTMLew
05-06-2024, 01:11 PM
The shocks are adjustable for a reason. You'll get a lot further testing than just bolting random shocks on your car. Every brand can't achieve the exact same shape of curve, but any of them can work well. Who built it? was it tuned to what you need? All of this way more important than brand sticker on the side

Which takes us back to the comment about maybe staying home and not spending so much time/money chasing races you can't be competitive in. The "house car" certainly needs to be getting some sort of results. I know you don't know how slow you are until to get on track with the fast guys but...have to go testing. It's hard running on dirt though.

I'd have a Caphorn and Capocket for sure. Front clip that turd and see what's up.

KTMLew
05-06-2024, 01:17 PM
But my above comment also has a parallel with the RTJ thread. Is his mechanical advantage in rear suspension, 5th coil/torque arm or front end? How do you know which end matters most?

MasterSbilt_Racer
05-06-2024, 01:45 PM
But my above comment also has a parallel with the RTJ thread. Is his mechanical advantage in rear suspension, 5th coil/torque arm or front end? How do you know which end matters most?

If your front end is way faster than the back end, you'll never know. The car steers just fine.

KTMLew
05-06-2024, 02:28 PM
If your front end is way faster than the back end, you'll never know. The car steers just fine.

LOL! I had that coming.

Flathead
05-06-2024, 06:28 PM
I’m going to say that with Tony Jackson Jr’s reputation of being a constant chassis changer and buying the latest and greatest shocks from everyone that sells them that he probably doesn’t get the latest and greatest that he thinks he’s getting. His past practices have probably shot him in the foot with everyone. At the end of the day nothing he’s done has ever improved his performance.

KTMLew
05-06-2024, 07:44 PM
Very interesting! I don't know nothing bout him. Just figure Clanton would be interested in getting things rolling or might be short lived business.

brainbucket
05-07-2024, 04:56 PM
Shocks. Need to buy half dozen different manufacturers set-up and see which one is better. Maybe $30-40K?

On their third different shock program in less than a year… maybe it’s not the shocks???

Tyy7777
05-07-2024, 05:52 PM
3 shock programs in less than a year? I think its more the method than the shocks.

Henry Every
05-08-2024, 11:09 AM
Shocks. Need to buy half dozen different manufacturers set-up and see which one is better. Maybe $30-40K? Not what I would recommend at all. Pick one brand you like working with and work it out.

Henry Every
05-08-2024, 11:11 AM
... Only the valve curve matters. Brand means nothing. What he said.

KTMLew
05-08-2024, 12:27 PM
I was earning a living building shocks 20 some years ago. Very familiar with how they work.

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05-08-2024, 01:15 PM
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baltimore
05-08-2024, 05:44 PM
with Joe Amato

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05-08-2024, 10:01 PM
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crazyt
05-14-2024, 01:56 AM
Very interesting! I don't know nothing bout him. Just figure Clanton would be interested in getting things rolling or might be short lived business.

Makes it alot easier keeping a ride when you got money out the yin Yang and don’t mind spending it especially when that ride is a ride that hasn’t ever managed to win enough to even think about funding itself