dual stage rf starting point
just curious where would someone start w these. knowing little about them i assume i would start w a 1100 spring on top and a 450 spring on bottom. normally run a std 375 or 400. w the 1100 and 450 together gives me a spring rate of 320 off the collar. softer than my normal 375 - 400. i assume i would run these stacked w/o collar once and record how much travel i was getting. lets say my normal 375 travled 4 inch. w the stacked spring combo no collar it traveled 5.5 inch . thats 1.5 inch further than normal 375. so with that info a safe starting point for the dual stage w collar would be my std ride height w the collar set exactly where my 375 stopped traveling at. this would get the car over as fast as a 320 on entry. but when got into full travel the collar would stop the 320 spring at my standard 4 inch of travel and transfer to the bottom spring wich is a 450. so theoretically thru the middle and off would be on a 450 spring. is this correct way of thinking?
the problem im having was hot lap / qualify when track was tacky i would try to run a soft rf spring 325-350 but seemed like it would cause the lr to overpower the car an push on throttle. didn want to tie down l/r because i needed rear steer ? i think? seemed like a 400 425 rf worked alot better early and a 375 when slicked off a bit. this all done while not changing anything else. should i be changing anything else?
i am curious if the dual stage could give me the best of both worlds?
also feel like i should change somethin on lr if change on rf. what should i do to lr spring when testing dual stage? run a 225 there normally. sometimes put rounds in lr when soften rf depends on how slick i think track will get. any suggestions are appreciated if im in left field lol be honest you wont hurt my feelings
sorry been workin alot just got back
well im not on my own with this i have spoken w a shock guru here in eastern nc who runs very good and can give me the shock package neccesary to handle this. the problem with him and most guys who have the answers is it depends on how much money you spend on how much info you get. he is giving me nibbles and enough info to get started or get in trouble. i understand this must be a package deal and thats what im asking. what else needs to change? you say the rr? well what? i suspect there are alot of changes. im not expecting you to tell me exactly but maybe tell me one thing you tried that didn work so i dont waste my time and money.
i have a suspicion that w the 222 combo that is very common alot of people try this once and take it off and say its junk. on paper i feel that 222 is too soft. it seems pretty likely to me that 95% of the time the car never comes off the stop nut. or its so soft it slams into the stop nut then your running on a 1000# spring or so and thats not much better than a bump stop? that radical change from a 222 to super stiff spring may upset the car. with the 320 to 450 spring its not such a shock to the car and these are both springs that could be made to work by themselves but w this combo they can work together?? and the car wont spend so much time on the stop nut with a 320 spring..... i think lol. all this on paper at this point just trying to get a gameplan for testing that about to start in next two weeks. thanks for input