dirt, i don’t see it being about winning and losing, it’s about acknowledging facts. Take the factual info and make an informed determination. It’s really not that hard. It’s when people continue to delude themselves that befuddles me. Look, I’m not a Biden fan, he would not have been my first choice. But by all accounts to this point he won, pure and simple. Yet Ole Orange would prefer to deceive his supporters and do harm to the nation, just because he’s too big an egotist to admit that Joe whipped him fair and square. Think about that Buford, your boy got beat by ole Sleepy Joe, maybe the best man won after all lol.