Has anyone played with the large port 225cc heads. Looking for a head to put on a two barrel 358.
Thoughts?
Thank you.
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Has anyone played with the large port 225cc heads. Looking for a head to put on a two barrel 358.
Thoughts?
Thank you.
too big use the small runner ones, they were the best head I used on a 2 barrel period
I agree they are too big. I have a set on a 370 mod motor and I love them.
I have used that head on 358 2 barrels with a 6.250 rods they worked great, Remember raised intake and exhaust ports, Port Bias, fast burn chamber. Was are restricted to a flat tappet where I use a .904 lifter set up BBC cam core. Super flat torque curve. Before those heads came out I used alot of the 220 Pro-Actions heads on my 2 barrel engines. The longer will make peak power about the same as 6.000 rod but the longer rod will not fall off as fast and at 7500 I have seen 30 more horse compared to a 5.7 rod engine, No gear rule is a plus.
Can a person get a dome under these combustion chambers? Limited to 12.5:1
why would you want to the fast burn chamber is what makes them work so well a dome will defeat that?Quote:
Originally Posted by ford396
12.5 can be achieved with angle and flat mill the vortec bowties, that would be the way to go.
dart or some other aftermarket head will be cheaper if you are willing to run a dome. they wont produce as flat of hp and tq curves as the vortec though.
x1000000000000000000Quote:
Originally Posted by stock car driver
All that and yet there was not a yes or no in there.
your not smart enough to use google?Quote:
Originally Posted by ford396
https://rpmmachine.com/kbpistons-pre...chevy350.shtml
ill answer it for you, YES. and it will help, if you rules allow. ill take a dome any day over angle milling,Quote:
Originally Posted by ford396
there is that 90% thing i lust mentioned in the other post , i guess you cant help yourself .Quote:
Originally Posted by stock car driver
I know some guys that used an off the self dome in a vortec ,Don't know the part number thou.I would angle mill stock vortecs .125 then flat cut .040.Yes they would crack sometimes.I also tig welded the chambers when no milling was the rule.
haha, we all know the only reason you replied is to contradict me and follow me around, some things never change as usual you post incorrect information which you clearly have no actual experience with and cant even google to learn about.Quote:
Originally Posted by fastford
Everyone knows a fast burn chamber is impacted negatively by using a dome, they been around for a long time now.
Stock Car Driver:
do you ever provide any info that is pertinent and useful? Apparently you felt compelled to reply to my thread even though you had no relevant info pertaining to my question. Typical.
Have a great evening; just you and Google.
I would never use a dome when you can angle mill.
I had my vortec bowties welded and milled by Brzezinski. They ended up at 46cc. Should easily get you the compression you want.
don't want to seem stupid but what is the difference between vortecs and bowtie vortecs? thanks.
olin
just curious what is the cost of having heads angle milled and the welding done? I dont know what brzezinski charges , but i charge a good bit to do this. i do a good many because no rules down here allow for domes. i do agree that milling and flat tops are some what better , but the domes are quick to apply , less expensive and will achieve close to the same results, and you dont have to worry about cracking heads as much.Quote:
Originally Posted by stockcar5
see post # 16 in the E85 thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by stock car driver
It was $850 for the labor to mill, correct head bolts and intake face, valve job and weld spark plug cooling ports.
That was about 5 years ago, it may be more now.
So now your a motor builder, but didn't know if you can get a dome for a vortec chamber?Quote:
Originally Posted by fastford
Man all of you guys with FORD in your name seem like you came off the same stupid farm!
please show me where i said " i dont know if you can get a dome for vortec" your dumbness is showing loud and clear.Quote:
Originally Posted by stock car driver
thanks man, were a little less, but rates in general are a little less down here. But its worth ever penny to do that much work.Quote:
Originally Posted by stockcar5
fastford and ford396 aren't the same person? come one were not all that stupid, theres a third ford name also which slips my mind, you should switch to bashing me with itQuote:
Originally Posted by fastford
Stock car Driver:
It is showing again.
Its only been cold for a few days!! You guys can't have cabin fever already.
this is easy, moderators , you have my permission to disclose all my screen names........
we did a 358 with small Brzezinski angle milled and welded plug passage Bowtie Vortecs , 6.200 Arrow 300M rods, Crower ultralight crank, everything imaginable coated (oil shedder, Ceramic thermo barrier, friction reducer, etc) and Peterson WideVac belt drive oil/vacuum wet sump with Baker pan. Made 508hp on a Gauge VDL 2bbl. was a real screamer, then the division went unlimited cube and 4bbl 10 races later, lol
I had domes for my Vortecs in 1999, Ross 99480 18* fit just fine, lol