Lucky Dog rule origin

From Wiki. The beneficiary rule, commonly referred to as the "lucky dog" or "free pass", is a rule in some motor racing leagues allowing the closest lapped driver to the front of the field to gain back a lap when a caution is called. The driver is called to move to the end of the longest line of the cars at the end of that caution period. This rule was instituted to prevent drivers from racing back to the start/finish line when a caution was called.Before the rule was installed, drivers would "race back to the caution"; however, there was a gentlemen's agreement not to race, but to slow down and not pass, to allow slower cars to get their laps back. During a September 14, 2003, Sylvania 300 at New Hampshire International Speedway, Casey Mears came close to contacting the stalled car of Dale Jarrett while racing back to the line during a caution caused by Jarrett's crash. NASCAR chose to abandon the practice and stop racing immediately in the wake of the incident. The rule was created as a way of continuing the practice of yielding to the slower cars without sacrificing safety.If this is the nature of the rule, how does it pertain to dirt track racing?

The rule was put into place for safety reasons to keep lapped cars from racing to the caution. As far as I know, EVERYONE has to slow when a yellow drops and there is no racing to the line in DLM racing.

From Lucas Oil rulebook. 5.12.3.1 Lucky Dog AwardA.) In only the feature event, at each caution flag one car will be given back a lap to the field.i.) The Lucky Dog Award will be given until ten (10) or less laps laps remaining of any A-Mainevent that is fifty (50) laps or more in total distance.ii.) The Lucky Dog Award will be given until five (5) or less remaining laps of any A-Main eventthat is less than fifty (50) laps in total distance.iii.) The highest running lapped car that is not involved in the caution period will be given one lap.In order to receive the lucky dog award the driver and race car must remain on the track. Driversand race cars must not pit under the yellow to be eligible. The lucky dog race car may pit duringthe next yellow after the race has attempted to restart.iv.) A car will only receive a maximum of one lap per race. In the event that the highest runninglapped car has already received the credit the next highest running lapped car that is notinvolved in the caution will receive the credited lap

The lucky dog race car may pit during the next yellow after the race has attempted to restart. RIGHT HERE THERE SHOULD BE A RULE CHANGE. There's no penalty for bringing the caution out YOURSELF and pitting and there (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) well should be.

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Originally Posted by 84wedge

The lucky dog race car may pit during the next yellow after the race has attempted to restart. RIGHT HERE THERE SHOULD BE A RULE CHANGE. There's no penalty for bringing the caution out YOURSELF and pitting and there (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) well should be.

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The highest running lapped car that is not involved in the caution period will be given one lap.


If you cause or are involved in the caution, then you can't get the lucky dog^

Rule has been in place for years. Not sure why it's such a big deal all a sudden.

Wrong guy win???

^^^ Just the opposite HH25. The right guy won. Some people don't like it...

rule has been in place for decades.

Everyone is but hurt because EPJ didn't win. Hudson took advantage of the rules. I give Hudson credit, he had them adjust the front shocks and he was stuck to the bottom of the track. He makes the wrong call there and this subject would never have come up. Sure I wanted to see EPJ park it in the winner's circle also but he made his point. Black Diamond's are garbage. He will be back were he belongs, running up front for wins, great run epj.

IMO, the lucky dog has no place in any form of racing, especially in dirt racing. The original intent of the "Aaron's Lucky Dog" was to prevent racing back to the line when there was a caution, but as with everything NASCAR, it was perverted to get more cars on the lead lap in boring races....usually when less than 20 cars were on the lead lap. Danica was the Queen of the Lucky Dog.

I don't see the reason for it in any form of racing. When the yellow comes out, you slow and hold your position. If you can't earn your spot on the track, you shouldn't get a lap back. I was pretty sure there was a rule in Lucas put in a place a few years ago that prevented drivers from deliberately bringing out a caution. I guess I was wrong on that.

It would have been nice if EPJ could have won, but Hud did what he could to win. No big deal. But as far as the "Lucky Dog" goes....it's a BS rule. It's also BS that a driver can create a caution for no safety related reason and not lose a lap. But that is the rule right now, so oh well.

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Originally Posted by Snake X3

IMO, the lucky dog has no place in any form of racing, especially in dirt racing. The original intent of the "Aaron's Lucky Dog" was to prevent racing back to the line when there was a caution, but as with everything NASCAR, it was perverted to get more cars on the lead lap in boring races....usually when less than 20 cars were on the lead lap. Danica was the Queen of the Lucky Dog.

I don't see the reason for it in any form of racing. When the yellow comes out, you slow and hold your position. If you can't earn your spot on the track, you shouldn't get a lap back. I was pretty sure there was a rule in Lucas put in a place a few years ago that prevented drivers from deliberately bringing out a caution. I guess I was wrong on that.

It would have been nice if EPJ could have won, but Hud did what he could to win. No big deal. But as far as the "Lucky Dog" goes....it's a BS rule. It's also BS that a driver can create a caution for no safety related reason and not lose a lap. But that is the rule right now, so oh well.

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It was a solution to a problem in NASCAR, at least initially. In dirt racing, it was a pointless copy cat move. I didn't understand it when it happened, most haven't cared until now.

There are some dumb rules in racing. This one has always made me shake my head. Another is how you are allowed to drive into the back of a car and spin them out, cause a caution and you keep your spot and the car that spun out ( because someone drove into the back of them) goes to the tail. It happens all of the time with multiple different drivers and both of these rules are just pure poppycok

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Originally Posted by Highside Hustler25

Rule has been in place for years. Not sure why it's such a big deal all a sudden.

Wrong guy win???

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This is true. But is Hudson the first driver to actually win after getting the lucky dog?

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Originally Posted by MasterSbilt_Racer

It was a solution to a problem in NASCAR, at least initially. In dirt racing, it was a pointless copy cat move. I didn't understand it when it happened, most haven't cared until now.

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Here's the problem -

I am in 12th and you are in 13th three car lengths behind me. Leader laps you and the caution comes out. Without the lucky dog you are still 1 lap down. So on the restart you pass me, but you really didn't because you are still a lap down even though you are in front of me on the track. You then pass a few other cars. After the race you pull in and think you have a top 10 finish but you are still scored in 13th.

Lucky dog fixes that.

Without it once you get lapped you might as well pull in because you aren't gaining anymore positions unless you pass another lapped car.

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Originally Posted by waaac77

There are some dumb rules in racing. This one has always made me shake my head. Another is how you are allowed to drive into the back of a car and spin them out, cause a caution and you keep your spot and the car that spun out ( because someone drove into the back of them) goes to the tail. It happens all of the time with multiple different drivers and both of these rules are just pure poppycok

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Biggest reason that they do not call drivers for spinning other drivers is in most cases can be a judgement call (did the guy let out early?). I agree, when you see someone who drives in over their head and wrecks someone something should be done. The drivers will police this in most cases (Jimmy Owens sure took care of one case a few weeks ago, Jack Hewitt was known to get people's attention as well)....

If the rule is, "First car a lap down gets a LD", why did they wave around every car that was one lap down at the halfway point?

The guy that finished second isn’t cryin about it……….Next subject please.

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Originally Posted by cjsracing

Here's the problem -I am in 12th and you are in 13th three car lengths behind me. Leader laps you and the caution comes out. Without the lucky dog you are still 1 lap down. So on the restart you pass me, but you really didn't because you are still a lap down even though you are in front of me on the track. You then pass a few other cars. After the race you pull in and think you have a top 10 finish but you are still scored in 13th.Lucky dog fixes that.Without it once you get lapped you might as well pull in because you aren't gaining anymore positions unless you pass another lapped car.

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No, it doesn't fix that because the guy in 14th still passes the car in 13th but really didn't.

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Originally Posted by MasterSbilt_Racer

It was a solution to a problem in NASCAR, at least initially. In dirt racing, it was a pointless copy cat move. I didn't understand it when it happened, most haven't cared until now.

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The only reason I care is the winner of a 100 lap race only completed 99 laps.

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Originally Posted by 84wedge

The only reason I care is the winner of a 100 lap race only completed 99 laps.

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I never really thought about it that way, but technically you’re correct.

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Originally Posted by 84wedge

No, it doesn't fix that because the guy in 14th still passes the car in 13th but really didn't.

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chances are at the next caution that 14th place car then gets the lucky dog.

bloomer was notorious for stopping on track bringing out the yellow and he used the lucky dog to his advantage.

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Originally Posted by buster83

bloomer was notorious for stopping on track bringing out the yellow and he used the lucky dog to his advantage.

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Please enlighten us and tell us when and where Bloomquist used this rule. Yes he’s stopped on the track to bring out the caution and go in to change tires and make adjustments but I’d be willing to bet he was on the lead lap when he came in.

I will say once again, drivers are already penalized by having to start at the tail of the field after bringing a caution out and pitting. I could understand the argument if they intentionally brought the caution out, pitted and then assumed their previous position upon coming back to the track, but that’s not so.

When 10 guys bring out separate cautions to make adjustments, it is very detrimental to the entertainment value of the race. I'd like to see no courtesy laps for any driver for any reason.

when u bring out caution u get 2 laps to get your position back.

it was either wheatland batesville there was a red flag track was very very ruff bloomer performed work on car sent to rear 1 lap down the next caution he received LD all hell broke loose in stands but bloomer remained on lead lap i thought he came back and won but u need to recheck it been a few years back.

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Originally Posted by buster83

bloomer was notorious for stopping on track bringing out the yellow and he used the lucky dog to his advantage.

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How dare you claim Bloomer could be a lap down. Lol, you trying to create a chit storm here?😄

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Originally Posted by MasterSbilt_Racer

When 10 guys bring out separate cautions to make adjustments, it is very detrimental to the entertainment value of the race. I'd like to see no courtesy laps for any driver for any reason.

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I'm along with this new rule. Hey Shwalls, you out there? Maybe Towerview can blow in his ear.

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Originally Posted by Highside Hustler25

How dare you claim Bloomer could be a lap down. Lol, you trying to create a chit storm here?
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Like that time he w0n the World Hundred at Eldoris... ? 👈🤗

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Originally Posted by 84wedge

From Wiki. The beneficiary rule, commonly referred to as the "lucky dog" or "free pass", is a rule in some motor racing leagues allowing the closest lapped driver to the front of the field to gain back a lap when a caution is called. The driver is called to move to the end of the longest line of the cars at the end of that caution period. This rule was instituted to prevent drivers from racing back to the start/finish line when a caution was called.Before the rule was installed, drivers would "race back to the caution"; however, there was a gentlemen's agreement not to race, but to slow down and not pass, to allow slower cars to get their laps back. During a September 14, 2003, Sylvania 300 at New Hampshire International Speedway, Casey Mears came close to contacting the stalled car of Dale Jarrett while racing back to the line during a caution caused by Jarrett's crash. NASCAR chose to abandon the practice and stop racing immediately in the wake of the incident. The rule was created as a way of continuing the practice of yielding to the slower cars without sacrificing safety.If this is the nature of the rule, how does it pertain to dirt track racing?

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I thought it was so Aaron's got more exposure per race since they driver could not drive a not nail into a snowman????