Southern Tracks

Tonight was a night at home watching races on Flo for me. Watched The All Star sprint cars from Williams Grove, then when that feature was over, I watched the DLM feature from Knoxville. I then thought maybe I can catch the DLM feature from Magnolia. To my surprise they are still on heat races. I don't know how you folks in the south put up with that many classes on a weekly basis. I love dirt track racing, and try to get to as many races in person as I can, but I think I would find a new hobby if I had to attend tracks with more than three or four support divisions.....

Program starts when the sun goes down. Figure it out from there. But, from what I've seen, down south you get a big money to win race, 5 million cars show up, 500 spectators show up, and its 5K to win. Go two borders north, 50 cars show up, 5000 people in the stands, 500 to win. Back gate vs front gate. Front gate wins. Why tracks are closing and streaming is going to kill the sport.

And its dumbassery on anybody's part to criticize a local track that includes its 'lower' classes, those weekly people that pay 85% of the bill, for including them. Kill your entry level participation, increase the cost at the entry level, you just killed the sport. Half the time the (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)ed street stock/stock car feature is the most entertaining racing of the night.

Oh, effing Eldora has Armco barriers as well. So does pretty much ANY track allows winged sprints. Its called containment.

If a southern track announces a starting time of 8pm and it's 2 hours from home, your best bet is to leave your house at 8pm and you will probably get there just as there playing the national anthem. Oh, take a pillow with you, so when they decide to rework the track before the heat races you can go out and catch a nap. They s*ck a large one as far as time management goes.

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Originally Posted by GrocMax

Oh, effing Eldora has Armco barriers as well. So does pretty much ANY track allows winged sprints. Its called containment.

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This is dirt late model and most sprint car tracks do not have Armco barriers

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Originally Posted by GrocMax

Oh, effing Eldora has Armco barriers as well. So does pretty much ANY track allows winged sprints. Its called containment.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YMjw2sjXqU

I live in the south all the tracks around me run 7 to 10 classes ever week even if they run a big race they don't cut out any classes so at the end of the night you got a wore out race track and a very late night and a follow the leader feature

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Originally Posted by 3 wide

I live in the south all the tracks around me run 7 to 10 classes ever week even if they run a big race they don't cut out any classes so at the end of the night you got a wore out race track and a very late night and a follow the leader feature

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Pretty much. I wouldn’t mind if they would just run the late models or the big event early but they normally do not do that

How many classes did they qualify at Magnolia, 3 or 4 ?

Batesville runs a good program. I wouldn't drive across town to see a race at most of these tracks in the south though.

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Originally Posted by jr29

How many classes did they qualify at Magnolia, 3 or 4 ?

Batesville runs a good program. I wouldn't drive across town to see a race at most of these tracks in the south though.

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Started qualifying street stocks @ 11:34PM. I went to bed. After watching 200 laps at Bristol & 25 @ Knoxville. I'll never bother with watching a race at that track again. It's always a 2AM finish at best.

Agreed. I think I saw heat 3 starting after Knoxville was over. They think I don't go because streaming is keeping me home. I don't go because I don't want to be there 8 hours and get home at 3 in the morning. I understand for me that part of it is just that I am getting old, but start at 7, get me out by 11, and I am there.

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Originally Posted by nc mudcat

Agreed. I think I saw heat 3 starting after Knoxville was over. They think I don't go because streaming is keeping me home. I don't go because I don't want to be there 8 hours and get home at 3 in the morning. I understand for me that part of it is just that I am getting old, but start at 7, get me out by 11, and I am there.

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Just speaking for myself here, streaming has led me to want to visit some tracks. I want to see the stock cars at Marshalltown in person. It looks incredible.
The opposite has happened too. Don't expect to ever find me at Screven. That's not the only one, just the first that came to mind.
And I've heard the thing about southern tracks not starting until sundown because of the heat or whatever. It also gets hot in Nebraska and they don't drag shows out the same way. In July it's hot almost everywhere.

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Originally Posted by GrocMax

And its dumbassery on anybody's part to criticize a local track that includes its 'lower' classes, those weekly people that pay 85% of the bill, for including them. Kill your entry level participation, increase the cost at the entry level, you just killed the sport. Half the time the (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)ed street stock/stock car feature is the most entertaining racing of the night.

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LOL, you obviously haven’t been to a show down here.

Switched over to the Mag after Knoxville. No hard feelings here but after 5 minutes, the announcer had me out cold sawing loggs.

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Originally Posted by Highside Hustler25

Switched over to the Mag after Knoxville. No hard feelings here but after 5 minutes, the announcer had me out cold sawing loggs.

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He's Ken Squier compared to a lot of the announcers out there.

The Mag announcer did not have his normal enthusiasm. I think calling all those divisions and a LM feature getting over at 12:23am wore him out. Plus, more racing to go. Feel sorry for those southern fans.

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Originally Posted by nc mudcat

Agreed. I think I saw heat 3 starting after Knoxville was over. They think I don't go because streaming is keeping me home. I don't go because I don't want to be there 8 hours and get home at 3 in the morning. I understand for me that part of it is just that I am getting old, but start at 7, get me out by 11, and I am there.

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You are exactly correct run a timely show and I'm there when you sit there 8 hrs it's like a job

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Originally Posted by 3 wide

You are exactly correct run a timely show and I'm there when you sit there 8 hrs it's like a job

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Look at EAMS this weekend they running 13 classes

They call Johnny Dr. Dirt.......after last nights fiasco, he should be sued for malpractice!

And yes HH, the announcer put me to sleep as well! Perhaps, he shoulda made a visit to Snorts trailer! lol

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Originally Posted by ZERO25

They call Johnny Dr. Dirt.......after last nights fiasco, he should be sued for malpractice!And yes HH, the announcer put me to sleep as well! Perhaps, he shoulda made a visit to Snorts trailer! lol

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That's a good one

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Originally Posted by GrocMax

And its dumbassery on anybody's part to criticize a local track that includes its 'lower' classes, those weekly people that pay 85% of the bill, for including them. Kill your entry level participation, increase the cost at the entry level, you just killed the sport. Half the time the (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)ed street stock/stock car feature is the most entertaining racing of the night.

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Please humor me while I try to make sense of this... Let's look at a track in Illinois, like Spoon River. Their weekly program includes Modifies, Pro Late Models, B-Mods, Hornets, Midgets, and I believe sometimes Street Stocks. When they hosted the Castrol FloRacing Night in America, using this logic, the $22,022 to win late model show should have been accompanied by 5 or 6 support divisions on a Wednesday night. Also, the temps during that week were nearing 100 degrees so they should also wait until after 8 o'clock to start. I wrote it and read it back to myself, but I still don't get it. Sorry to anyone who shares this opinion. Support and entry level classes have their place, but they aren't included on Saturday at the World 100 or Knoxville Nationals for a reason.

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Originally Posted by Highside Hustler25

Switched over to the Mag after Knoxville. No hard feelings here but after 5 minutes, the announcer had me out cold sawing loggs.

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I quit watching because the racing was boring and the announcer was boring.

I've worked in Alabama a couple times, and every time I watch an event at EAMS, it takes me right back. The slowest people I've ever met. Talking, moving, troubleshooting, you name it.

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Originally Posted by 84wedge

I've worked in Alabama a couple times, and every time I watch an event at EAMS, it takes me right back. The slowest people I've ever met. Talking, moving, troubleshooting, you name it.

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Come on over next door to Mississippi then some of these moth€(?¥<kers around this place will make the Bama folks look like Rhodes scholars.

lol. I'll take your word for it.

im right in the middle of the south. its a few factors that make the shows run late IMO. #1 is qualifying every single class above the fwd. if i wanted to watch cars race the clock id go to a drag strip. supers only qualify, passing points for the rest if they dont think straight up is fair. #2 is too many classes, you need one 4 cyl, one stock car, one modified and one late model class, not three variances of each, if you want more run em biweekly. #3 is waiting on scoring to get the lineups right, as a racer that goes to quite a few tracks i cant explain how nice it is to have a director and scorer that knows how to use a raceiver, nothing irks me more when we waste laps lining up 13th place.

You are correct to many classes I don't think there is a track in the south that is open running less than 7 classes I've always said bi weekly was a good idea if you had that many classes but they just don't get it some do but most dont.

I was not able to watch it live and I could very well be mistaken but when i checked on My Race Pass I thought it showed they ran the show in a very weird order. Did they have most of the late model program done before even qualifying some of the support classes?

I haven’t gone to as many regular local races this year due to too many classes. I tend to pick the special events and even some of those have too many classes.