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Black- A front end designed by Mark Bush for Rocket
Blue- A copy of Rayburn geometry
Blue/Gray- Still a copy of Rayburns front end, with updated Gray spindles
Orange-...

You want to save it you'll have to take traction away. Period. To take traction away you've got to limit rear axle down travel to take away the mechanical grip attained by it, along with the wedge...

I believe that the reason you see shorter down tubes is because everyone is going to an underrail rear clip and stiffening cars up. It's very common to build an underrail car like that, and it's been...

I guarantee you that 7000 out of 8000 racers are not doing this to kick back and have a good time. There are a small number of guys that show up like that, but the vast, vast majority are there...

Of course they aren't hard to find right now. They've stacked up over the past few years at these yards because everyone switched to the China clips. As far as price, if your builder is buying a...

Yes, I know what they are selling for. If my 1st grade math isn't failing me then $200-$400 for a junkyard clip is cheaper than $630 for the China clip, therefore making the initial cost of a China...

The initial cost for a China clip is more than an American junkyard clip.. The savings were supposed to be in the labor by using new metal but the parts are low quality so labor is still high to...

Well said... I don't think many racers realize the time it takes to prep a clip wether it's Chinese or from a junkyard. Most shops are 60-100 an hour for fab work, even on the conservative side you...

I understand your point, and it sounds good in a fairytale world, but that's not what we're dealing with. It doesn't matter if manufacturer A is the biggest jerk you've ever met and he's charging...

Yeah, it would be stiffer. Some believe that is a disadvantage. I'm not one personally, but nevertheless people still argue it either way. It would definitely be stronger, without a doubt. I did lump...

If a company was to build a longer lasting tire that had more speed do you think it would stay cheap very long? And do you think it wouldn't be improved on by another company that would charge more? ...

We addressed the weight issue a few posts ago, the manufacturer would have a weight spec the same as a factory clip to eliminate that advantage. The advantage to the chassis builder not fighting the...

What's the difference between a fabricated Chinese Chevelle clip and a fabricated tube clip that accepts stock parts? The only difference I can tell would be if the manufacturer of the fab clip...

The problems most definitely lie in the inspection or lack thereof. But with UMP who is going to get the inspectors together and change the process? Their fearless leader can barely tell a carb from...

We're not saying you must run that fab spec clip, just make the pickup points the same as a Chevelle because that's what most everyone is using anyway, make it accept the stock parts, and make it...

Couldn't agree more on the spec clips! Spec clips built by one manufacturer that provides the sanctioning bodies with a quick, easy jig to check the mounting points.

1. Cheaper and easier? How is it cheaper to buy a full frame vs a clip? How is it easier dealing with a complete full frame rather than just that bolt on camaro stub? Have you ever actually seen a...

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a...

UMP hasn't deserved any respect since Sam Driggers was put in charge. They care about body measurements and Hoosier tire money. Safety isn't even on their radar.

Ran flat black on several cars and I've never had an issue with scratching easier or softness of the metal vs standard colors. That's also buying from a few different places, including one that buys...

Revising a couple things over the last 10 years like longer steering arms on the grey spindle or spacing the RF out 1" isn't designing a front end IMO... But I've seen people take more credit for...

Probably a hydraulic ram mounted to the chassis side of the RR lower bar. It connects to the steering and changes rear steer as you turn the wheel. At least that's how he did it about 15 years ago?

Absolutely... That was also back when many were building their own cars and components and everything wasn't so cookie cutter. Not like today where most just buy X brand, set it up like the book says...

Rayburn is an innovator, no doubt. But he didn't design the frontend geometry for his cars that everyone is using today. That frontend geometry was designed by Ed Howe for CJ.

Black is the one Mark Bush designed for them, Blue is the one they stole from Rayburn, Orange is the one they stole from Bloomquist. Black front cars like to be driven harder and thrown more, but...