Cost of running open wheel modified?

[CsR41]

Spending 30 grand on a used car is ridiculous. you can build a good NEW car for that price.

yeah the cars are not made to take big hits, but just because they get hit doesn't make them junk. I see cars all the time that have been hit hard, fixed or stubbed win.

Maybe your friend doesn't know what he is doing?

[stock car driver]

Spending 30 grand on a used car is ridiculous. you can build a good NEW car for that price.

yeah the cars are not made to take big hits, but just because they get hit doesn't make them junk. I see cars all the time that have been hit hard, fixed or stubbed win.

Maybe your friend doesn't know what he is doing?

I am not remotely sure what your even getting at here with this post.

30k was the price. Seemed fair to them.

Are you saying Jet the 4 or 5 time national champion or whatever he is doesnt know how to fix his own chassis?

[powerslide]

Believe he is referring to one of your original posts where you stated once they are wrecked the "money guys" go buy a new one because they will not be the same again. So yes it would seem that the jet would not know how to fix his cars if this is the case. I don’t care how many national championship you have doesn’t mean you can re-clip a car correctly. You seem to throw out pointless figures in trying to make your points doesnt fly with me.

I agree the majority of IMCA racers are not spending this type of money he is the hot bed of IMCA area I believe. Obviously has ties to "the jet". Personally i cannot believe someone paid 30k for a used IMCA car. You can go USMTS or late model racing for that.

It obvious you are a pessimistic person who knows it all, almost every post on this forum from you turns into one of these arguments. Also curious if you have ever funded a mod team because it sure seems like you have some sort of full bodied stock car

My rant is done now onto the original question. i believe someone said you can get a good used ride for 7-8k with another 7-8k budgeted for motor. I would budget atlest one new tire a night and 2barrels of fuel per month if running alky. you will go through alot of wheels as well.

If you are starting out and have nothing and are wanting to do this and have a truck already i would say for 25k you could have all car/trailer/tools need to make it through a season barring any major wrecks/blow ups. No you are not going to win all these big money shows but you should be able to compete weekly at 2-3tracks and learn to drive a keep up with the pack once this is accomplished come back and see us again and we can attempt to upgrade your program

I am not remotely sure what your even getting at here with this post.

30k was the price. Seemed fair to them.

Are you saying Jet the 4 or 5 time national champion or whatever he is doesnt know how to fix his own chassis?

[powerslide]

4 to 500 bucks a night provided you have no damage from the previous week. But that won't usually happen 2 weeks in a row in this class. We have invested about $40,000 in the last 15 races NO JOKE.And $15,000 in the 15 before that .What was the difference you ask ? The first 15 were ran with older equipment that ran 6th to 12th. The last 15 were ran with top shelf stuff that runs 3rd to 5th so far. If we can keep idiots from tearing it up for us this year long enough to dial it in I expect that will improve to 1st to 3rd.

So really you didnt spend 40k in 15 races. you have to average the cost of the car/motor over the amount of time you run it, unless you wrecked/blew up.
When i worked for a regional late model team it averaged out to cost about 800-900 per night to run a super late model this was in 2008.

I think these big spenders are what keeps the little guy from trying to make the jump to mods, yes you will be competing against some big money teams with more in haulers than most of us have in our homes but with hard work and smart spending you can beat them

[dirty white boy]

thought a stock clip clammier motor class was sposed to be cheap racing....for the money y'all talking you could run late model...

[powerslide]

No I ment 40k, with damages and what the car is worth now difference from what we have spent getting it ,And cost taking it to the track minus its winning returns,that is a pretty accurate figure for what we have spent (as per the question). Now with some luck we can spread that a little more. Will take a lot of luck to recover that expense.

Wow must of completely wasted 2-3cars or motors. Sorry about your luck

[hotrod4890]

I was just looking around for the cost of getting into a IMCA type mod with good equipment. You can get a 2 year old used Hughes car for $8,500 - $9,000 off of racing junk. You can get a new Mullins IMCA motor for $12,000. You can get a new motor of good quality and power with a lesser name for less money. I owned a UMP modified for over 10 years and never had a professionally built car or motor. We used a local machine shop to build our motors and we built our own cars. We ran a local track down in Louisiana and won 8 - 12 features a year for many years. Yes we got in bad wrecks at times like anywhere else in the country. We reclipped the car several times and never had a problem. If you chose a track to learn on smaller and stays pretty slick you will not need the $20,000 power plants that some on here will tell you have to have. Learn everything you can about fabrication and car set up. Spend your money wise. You don't have to buy new tires every time you go to the track. We ran the same tires 4 weeks in a row and won all 4 weeks by keeping the tires clean, buffed, and turned around. Work on your setup to keep from cooking the tires. Most of the time we could run a softer tire than most of the cars we ran against by having a well set up car, a good smooth driver, and yes less power. And starting out choose your races wisely. Everyone wants to win the big races but look at the pay back and ask yourself if you can win enough to cover your cost. Also remember that the bigger and and more hooked up a track is the harder it is on everything. Hope I have helped you and I know that this stockcar racing IDOT will have a lot of bashing to do about this but I don't want someone like that to make you not want to race. PM me if I can ever do anything to help you.

[stockcar5]

since i've never raced a mod i cant say what they cost to run but going by what good stuff is sold for and what new stuff costs i'd say 25k will get you a new roller and a good motor. i've seen 1 year old harris and skyrocket cars checked on a jig, repowder coated and all new tin for 10k-11k roller.

[stock car driver]

Believe he is referring to one of your original posts where you stated once they are wrecked the "money guys" go buy a new one because they will not be the same again. So yes it would seem that the jet would not know how to fix his cars if this is the case. I don’t care how many national championship you have doesn’t mean you can re-clip a car correctly. You seem to throw out pointless figures in trying to make your points doesnt fly with me.

I agree the majority of IMCA racers are not spending this type of money he is the hot bed of IMCA area I believe. Obviously has ties to "the jet". Personally i cannot believe someone paid 30k for a used IMCA car. You can go USMTS or late model racing for that.

It obvious you are a pessimistic person who knows it all, almost every post on this forum from you turns into one of these arguments. Also curious if you have ever funded a mod team because it sure seems like you have some sort of full bodied stock car

My rant is done now onto the original question. i believe someone said you can get a good used ride for 7-8k with another 7-8k budgeted for motor. I would budget atlest one new tire a night and 2barrels of fuel per month if running alky. you will go through alot of wheels as well.

If you are starting out and have nothing and are wanting to do this and have a truck already i would say for 25k you could have all car/trailer/tools need to make it through a season barring any major wrecks/blow ups. No you are not going to win all these big money shows but you should be able to compete weekly at 2-3tracks and learn to drive a keep up with the pack once this is accomplished come back and see us again and we can attempt to upgrade your program

No ties to Jet.

I just visit with him when I see him. It was his car that sold for 30k off the track to the guy that just put a leather kit in my old 08 dodge for me.

Your stoned if you think you can buy a USMTS or open LATE Model car that runs up front DIRECTLY off the track for 30k.

Sure there are lots of cars cheaper for sale we all sell cheap when we dont want what we have anymore.

[texas racer]

All that you want to spend and then some.

[steveshawjr]

haha i rember when we first got mods at our track it was just as cheep to run as a ss (15 years ago) now some have more than our lm in there car big dollor haulers just to pull to the local track and 1 or 2 times a year to try to make a show at eldora ,

it WAS the hole point about the modified to begain with to have a cheep class ,

its said to say we have 4 classes at our track and not one is near stock you can go get a lm chassis and run anyone if you know what to do with is

mini stocks are now mod4s we use lm chassis wit ha mustang rear end abd a 3 link pinto front

superstocks lm chassis camaro clip 9" floaters wit ha 3 link

modified are just lm with a stock clilp

and lates

some ministock guys got 10k plus in a car
supers 15k plus
lm/mods 20k plus

now that i ranted about my track a bit lol ive been looking at the southren sportmods class and would realy like to get them up hear it is a street stock with a modified body with a big engine set back let em run a crate or a spec engine rule give them part numbers for everything if you go spec that whay it even and bring the driver back into the mix of things

mandate a tire buying rule like a lot of pavement tracks have 8 befor the season than only 1 a night its the track that got to take controll of the cost maybe just get rid of a santion and make your own rules alot of guy cant run 50+nights a year and could care less about winning a ump division tital or national tital

just a few ideas


but for the one looking into cost i put it this way "Racing is a hole just to lose a bunch of money"

hey i spend my money racing i dont booze , do drugs , or anything that is boaring like stamps and coins

and as the king would say "To make a million in racing , Start with 2 and know when to quit")

[mr.slidewayz]

Ran Legend cars on asphalt for a little bit and dirt karts a few years before that. Got out of racing due to college and now looking to get back into it again after a few months of selling the legend car (this bug just won't go away..)

Looking into running a dirt modified, but would like to get a feel for the cost. Could anyone give some rough figures for stuff like tires, fuel, weekly maintenance, ect.?

Will be racing in Florida if that helps (Ocala, Volusia)

Thanks

there are some tracks that are taking the big money factor out of the equasion . they are adding up to 400 dollars (along with added money to 2nd and 3rd) to the top finisher in a sport mod with their 602 crate engine (basically a hand-me-down a-mod with a $3000 engine) running on a A-compound tire . a local g.m dealer added the money , so this isnt happening everywhere . but these guys have my undivided attention . as it turns out ...... the 602 is winning these races . so tack on another $250. bucks for a total of 650 and the evening would be a good one . other tracks nearby have the same rules but dont have the added top pay for the 602). im going to join them . level playing feild , inexpensive , reliable , with a deasent payout . it gives a lowbuck guy a chance to have fun and not go broke in the process . lets hope this catches onn across the country !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[frontrunner]

Well one of my cars is a 94 leafspring car I paid 2,500 dollars 4 this car 10 years ago & it still runs up front & I can run up front with all the guys with the new cars 4bar or what not we build r oun motors but I got the block dne and just bought the new rotating asembly and balanced & just bought the heads & sent them away & redone when dne I have 3,000 dollars in the motor its a strocker with 575 hp... all I worry about the most is the setup.. And it costs me around 125.00 to 150dollars a night to go racing & I do keep good maint.. up on the car & do not have to spend much money in this car..Sooo I think it can be done if you dnt want to spend a arm & a leg.......

[racin6mod]

I built my own chassis for this year and I've got 1800 in it as a roller with a 9 inch rearend that I got at an auction everything else is new.the aluminum is another $350 to $400.I also build my own engines after machine work and parts they cost around 2 grand for a steel headed engine and my aluminum headed engine was around 5 grand.

[frontrunner]

And it is fun runnin with the guys that has 20k or more in there car so that shows ya u dnt need 2 spend all that money for all that good stuff.........

[zachmckenzieracing]

To be straight forward, you can count on spending atleast $10,000 to run a season, and thats not including the purchase of equipment. When it comes to equipment, you get what you pay for. You have to consider travel expenses, fuel, pit passes, food, tires, oil and other fluids, general upkeep and repair. Last year I spent over $40,000 purchasing a car, motor, rear end, extra parts, tires, fuel, ect. You can spend much more if you choose, and there are people out there that do spend more than that. Much more than that.

[frontrunner]

Well one of my cars is a 94 leafspring car I paid 2,500 dollars 4 this car 10 years ago & it still runs up front & I can run up front with all the guys with the new cars 4bar or what not we build r oun motors but I got the block dne and just bought the new rotating asembly and balanced & just bought the heads & sent them away & redone when dne I have 3,000 dollars in the motor its a strocker with 575 hp... all I worry about the most is the setup.. And it costs me around 125.00 to 150dollars a night to go racing & I do keep good maint.. up on the car & do not have to spend much money in this car..Sooo I think it can be done if you dnt want to spend a arm & a leg.......

Like I said in my messg. it can be dne without spending alot of money, The car counts are mostly around 20 and we can still run up front with guys with high dollars in there car soo i dnt think you have to wast ur money to run with the guys that they think they have to put all that money in the car just to make them look good, becouse u will fill brtter when u go out there and look good without all that money in the car...Knowing ur not spendig near the money on the car & it always fills good when ya dnt have much money in the car or dnt have the money to spend and still beat the guys with 20k plus in there car..........