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Ok, got it. The setup costs are high. You did not answer my question though. This feels a lot like watching "The Wizard of Oz". lol
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Originally Posted by Driver50x
Ok, got it. The setup costs are high. You did not answer my question though. This feels a lot like watching "The Wizard of Oz". lol
We're compressing springs not extending them.
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sounds like dynoman's second 3rd cuzion....
....are these springs specially treated???
white trash motorsports
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This sounds like a late night infomercial for the new Ronco control arms. But wait thats not all, if you order right now Ill throw in the steak knives to the first 100 callers. DONT get sucked in by this. There is no magic part that makes you win. Trust me I know.
Dave
2012 UMP Stock Car National Champions.
2013 UMP Modified Rookie of the Year
2014 Kankakee Speedway UMP Modified Champion
2016 Fairbury American Legion Speedway UMP Modified Champion
2016 Kankakee Speedway UMP Modified Champion
2016 UMP Modified, Northen IL Regional Champion
2018 UMP Modified, #2 National Points Standings
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Originally Posted by Racer96m
This sounds like a late night infomercial for the new Ronco control arms. But wait thats not all, if you order right now Ill throw in the steak knives to the first 100 callers. DONT get sucked in by this. There is no magic part that makes you win. Trust me I know.Dave
So what kind of combo were you running in the rears?
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Originally Posted by RaceMentally
So what kind of combo were you running in the rears?
whatever it was it didnt hold together in 2012 at kankakee when his boy rolled down the front straight away because his rear lower control arm decided to go south. just glad he wasnt hurt
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Originally Posted by glover11
whatever it was it didnt hold together in 2012 at kankakee when his boy rolled down the front straight away because his rear lower control arm decided to go south. just glad he wasnt hurt
(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) magic part disappeared. Gotta have those links to go round and round. If they disappear you're not going to like it.
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Lets not be fooled by anything and stick to the facts. ANY spring loaded arm unless its a top link on a three link isn't isn't designed to absorb thrust its a metric 4 link. The INTENT just like it would be on a 3 Link RR or LR training arm is to take the load compress and Change the Trail of the rear end THUS tightening the car. If you want to change your wheel loadings use the spring especially on the RR its a lot more consistent change, and the stock metric cars already have a high rear roll center so you need to run the softer RR anyways its a stock class don't go spend your money on something that will get you in trouble. Run good link bushings that don't break apart or bind work with your angles if you can adjust them and focus on your car not some trick and definitely don't compromise your safety a trip to the hospital is going to cost many times more then some trick part that might break. Spring Loaded trailing arms are built to control wheelbase period
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Originally Posted by 7uptruckracer
Lets not be fooled by anything and stick to the facts. ANY spring loaded arm unless its a top link on a three link isn't isn't designed to absorb thrust its a metric 4 link. The INTENT just like it would be on a 3 Link RR or LR training arm is to take the load compress and Change the Trail of the rear end THUS tightening the car. If you want to change your wheel loadings use the spring especially on the RR its a lot more consistent change, and the stock metric cars already have a high rear roll center so you need to run the softer RR anyways its a stock class don't go spend your money on something that will get you in trouble. Run good link bushings that don't break apart or bind work with your angles if you can adjust them and focus on your car not some trick and definitely don't compromise your safety a trip to the hospital is going to cost many times more then some trick part that might break. Spring Loaded trailing arms are built to control wheelbase period
I agree with everything said about the lowers which controls wheelbase. Essentially the rr is where we would want to place the loaded arm to tighten car on throttle and loosen off. But loaded uppers also does something. It absorbs energy to the rear and promotes traction. L upper we ran loaded with soft bushings on r upper
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While this can be true anyone who works on multiple kinds of car has to take into consideration HOW they are loading their wheels. In asphalt or dirt you load the tires either through the springs or through the bars you can't really do both. If your trying to use antisquat in the rear the car will be hiking away from your springs and your not loading your car with springs if your not hiking like most super streets with stock suspension do your loading primairly through your springs. ANYTHING that absorbs torque is taking away potential drive there is a point no matter what the LR to RR balance is where you have way to much torque and you will never hook it up with the tires before you try "trick" pieces see if you cant load it up on regular parts. Adjust springs to balance your load across the rear tires first.
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Originally Posted by 7uptruckracer
While this can be true anyone who works on multiple kinds of car has to take into consideration HOW they are loading their wheels. In asphalt or dirt you load the tires either through the springs or through the bars you can't really do both. If your trying to use antisquat in the rear the car will be hiking away from your springs and your not loading your car with springs if your not hiking like most super streets with stock suspension do your loading primairly through your springs. ANYTHING that absorbs torque is taking away potential drive there is a point no matter what the LR to RR balance is where you have way to much torque and you will never hook it up with the tires before you try "trick" pieces see if you cant load it up on regular parts. Adjust springs to balance your load across the rear tires first.
Energy absorbing components is mechanical traction control. On dirt it does wonders.
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where are the links to pics of some of these parts?
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Yeah and if you put a 650 spring on a torque you can slam the pedal to the floor and watch them pull away.....If you can hook it up without it its a no brainer it tells you in the name it absorbs torque so if your that worried why not just build a motor with less torque find a way to hook up what you have and use all the torque you have. Something that is going to change your anti-or pro squat and effect the way your loading the car as the conditions change is going to be like hitting a moving target been there done that good parts for EBAY
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Originally Posted by 7uptruckracer
Yeah and if you put a 650 spring on a torque you can slam the pedal to the floor and watch them pull away.....If you can hook it up without it its a no brainer it tells you in the name it absorbs torque so if your that worried why not just build a motor with less torque find a way to hook up what you have and use all the torque you have. Something that is going to change your anti-or pro squat and effect the way your loading the car as the conditions change is going to be like hitting a moving target been there done that good parts for EBAY
Exactly why dirt modifieds run solid top links right?
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Your talking 200-250 more HP on a driveline that's more efficient to get it to the rear tires of a super street so yeah you might need some assistance
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Originally Posted by 7uptruckracer
Your talking 200-250 more HP on a driveline that's more efficient to get it to the rear tires of a super street so yeah you might need some assistance
400hp crate motors run them...
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pictures? of the components you are selling? pictures?
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Originally Posted by glover11
whatever it was it didnt hold together in 2012 at kankakee when his boy rolled down the front straight away because his rear lower control arm decided to go south. just glad he wasnt hurt
What was I running? Stock trailing arms just like the rules stated. To say I was one of the most highly teched cars was an understatement. And Yes the left lower stock trailing arm broke on the forward side where it gets thin and goes around the bushing. The bolt and bushing were still in the chassis. The car flipped 5 times down the front stretch at K3 at over 90mph. The car was destroyed. I totally rebuilt the car in 2 weeks, new front end, new rear, new Halo etc, etc, etc. Set it up the same as always and went out and won the very next race in dominating fashion. So do I know what Im doing?? I guess the results speak for themselves. So everyone go buy the super spring rod, it will make you faster! LOL After you buy that, I got an old front end to sell you off a National Championship Car and a free set of steak knives to the first caller!
Dave
2012 UMP Stock Car National Champions.
2013 UMP Modified Rookie of the Year
2014 Kankakee Speedway UMP Modified Champion
2016 Fairbury American Legion Speedway UMP Modified Champion
2016 Kankakee Speedway UMP Modified Champion
2016 UMP Modified, Northen IL Regional Champion
2018 UMP Modified, #2 National Points Standings
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relax dave. Dont get your pantys in a bunch. I carry a tarp with me too when i dont want wondering eyes to see what im doing with my STOCK suspension. Got to give you guys props though, you have out smarted everyone that plays the game. Nobody is saying you dont know what your doing, as you guys had the fastest SS around. Sorry already got the free steak knives LOL
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Originally Posted by glover11
relax dave. Dont get your pantys in a bunch. I carry a tarp with me too when i dont want wondering eyes to see what im doing with my STOCK suspension. Got to give you guys props though, you have out smarted everyone that plays the game. Nobody is saying you dont know what your doing, as you guys had the fastest SS around. Sorry already got the free steak knives LOL
I thought the tarp was a great Idea! 100 people came running over to get there facebook post, but I covered it up to add to the mystery! LOL. Why dont you mention the night I had the torpedo heater on my back tires and went from 12th to the lead in 3 laps! I miss those Street Stocks sure had a lot of fun with them. These Modified guys take this stuff way to seriously!
Dave
2012 UMP Stock Car National Champions.
2013 UMP Modified Rookie of the Year
2014 Kankakee Speedway UMP Modified Champion
2016 Fairbury American Legion Speedway UMP Modified Champion
2016 Kankakee Speedway UMP Modified Champion
2016 UMP Modified, Northen IL Regional Champion
2018 UMP Modified, #2 National Points Standings
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