So,what do ya make of this?

[t.nie]

Why O Why would this happen?! I mean they made up "stories" about G W Bush's military "inactivatives" and, people (Dan Rather) lost their jobs for "inaccuracies"...yet, WE as a people, have no idea (unless you read his written word) what the 44th President of the United States of America's history is all about...

If you don't know anything about the highest profile person in America, and you think the only historical record of him is his own words, then you aren't looking very hard.

[LITE-INN]

yep your right he's a crook a liar a communist has no business being prez but he makes a great comedian

[LITE-INN]

Yours are sealed too. Got something you want to share with us about your past, where you've been, who you know?

he's not a leader either

[15D]

If Obama really is the product of some grand conspiracy, whomever thought it up has failed miserably.

A President is only the head of one branch of government. It still takes the Congress and Judicial branches to get anyting implemented. So gaining control of the Presidency is only as effective as long as you can get control of the other two branches. That clearly hasn't happened.

Basically, if you want to stage an internal, covert coup of the American government, you have to gain control of all three branches. And judging by how little Obama has been able to accomplish, and how every single thing he attempts gets shot down by the House, it makes anyone who purports this big conspiracy theory to "take over" the nation looking pretty stupid.

Face it. If this is what some people say it is, it's a pretty pathetic failure.

I'm going with Charles Krauthammer's take on such things; it goes like this:

"When it comes to government, if the choice is between conspiracy and incompetence, go with incompetence."

I do not believe Obama is a "Manchurian Candidate." I also do not believe he was fully vetted as a candidate. If he would have been given the same scrutiny that Sarah Palin received, most of these issues would have been resolved long ago. With the utterly inept McCain Candidacy it would have taken a lot of skeletons in his closet to be exposed for Obama to have lost.

[ModJr9]

I have chosen to let you guys debate this thread, as long as you keep it civil i will let it remain. Do not revert to the fussing and name calling or it will be deleted.

[Clayton_Wetter]

Thank you!

[Clayton_Wetter]

If Obama really is the product of some grand conspiracy, whomever thought it up has failed miserably.

A President is only the head of one branch of government. It still takes the Congress and Judicial branches to get anyting implemented. So gaining control of the Presidency is only as effective as long as you can get control of the other two branches. That clearly hasn't happened.

Basically, if you want to stage an internal, covert coup of the American government, you have to gain control of all three branches. And judging by how little Obama has been able to accomplish, and how every single thing he attempts gets shot down by the House, it makes anyone who purports this big conspiracy theory to "take over" the nation looking pretty stupid.

Face it. If this is what some people say it is, it's a pretty pathetic failure.

Everything congress tries to do is getting shot down by Harry Reid. That Dem. Senate majority leader is stopping every bill that they propose. Obummer had all three branches and did force ObamaCare on the nation. He has also got a regulatory Craz who loves to attack energy and keep the nation dependant on the middle east. The man is anti-American and more people are realizing it. Not enough people have realized it because the Democratic party and the news media have worked hand in hand to edit news, supress news they don't deem fit for the public. Their party has created as many diversions as possible to keep this guy propped up long enough for re-election with a huge dose of propaganda through television and the internet.

The Democratic party caters to every faction that they can to try and gain enough votes for his realection and the media almost never does anything but stand up for him, even with all of the atrocities that Obama and his party push to attain.

They have to pose as something that the people want, if they come out and told them what they really wanted to do to this country they would all lose in November.

That is one of the reasons Harry Reid will not let any bills pass is that he wants to protect the Democratic Senate from having their votes in bill/policies from becoming public record and knowledge. Any senator who would vote to keep ObamaCare would by in great peril of losing in the November elections.

Obama does not need all three branches as he has obviously neutralized Congress. With the help of his Czars that if you check their backgrounds. Socialists and Communist leaning Czars are silently destroying the Constitution. More and more executive orders by Obama, and nobody standing in force to contest it. You know where a lot of things would go if it came down to Supreme Court decisions. Their hand has also been exposed. Department of Justice, exposed also.

[mudslinger47]

It fairly obvious that obummer is goin down in flames with the new polling coming out today from Gallop/USA About the only thing obummer has going for him is likeability, not favor ability, like ability. On every other front he gets his hat handed to him. Including in donations, over two hundred mil to Romney Pacs (228 I think) to around 88 mil for obummer. Not a good sign. As well as all the money obummer has spent this month trying to hang Romney with Bain Capital, ain't worked, with a margin of over two to one the country thinks Romney would be a better money manager (for the country) then obummer. I believe it was 28 or thirty million spent on the anti Romney/Bain commercials, to no avail. Some Democrat leaders are concerned that obummer is spending to much money on early advertising, oddly enough they never worry about over spending our tax dollars, only their money. Obummer is in a tight tight spot and very soon, the media and the white house are going to see how bad it really is. A certain pundant has been saying for weeks that this would be a landslide against obummer, I'm starting to believe him.

Duane

[anthonycacace]

you mean the House of Reps that was majority Dem until 2010? and the Senate that is still majority Dem? the same Senate that won't even bring bills to the floor for a vote that the newly elected (2010) Repub House passes? is this the Congress you speak of?

I love this line of thinking. It shows a lack of understanding about how Congress, and in particular how the Senate, works. While it is true, the Dems had a 'majority' in Congress until after the 2010 election, a party really must have 60 votes in the Senate to pass any legislation, as has been shown many times recently. The Dems only held this advantage in the Senate when two Independents would vote with them (Lieberman and Sanders) and after Spector changed parties in April 2009. Also, Robert Byrd died in June 2010 causing his seat to be vacant until after the November special election, causing another hurdle to attaining 60 votes. So, while technically the statement on Dem majority is true, it is quite misleading IMO.

Tables below were sourced at: http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/his...s/partydiv.htm

Party Division in the Senate, 1789-Present

Note: Statistics listed below reflect party division immediately following the election, unless otherwise noted. The actual number of senators representing a particular party often changes during a congress, due to the death or resignation of a senator, or as a consequence of a member changing parties.
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109th Congress (2005-2007)

Majority Party: Republican (55 seats)

Minority Party: Democrat (44 seats)

Other Parties: Independent (1 seat)

Total Seats: 100

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110th Congress (2007-2009)

Majority Party: Democrat (49 seats)

Minority Party: Republican (49 seats)

Other Parties: 1Independent; 1 Independent Democrat

Total Seats: 100

Note:Senator Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut was reelected in 2006 as an independent candidate, and became an Independent Democrat. Senator Bernard Sanders of Vermont was elected as an Independent.

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111th Congress (2009-2011)
Majority Party: Democrat (57 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (41 seats)
Other Parties: 1 Independent; 1 Independent Democrat
Total Seats: 100
Note: Senator Arlen Specter was reelected in 2004 as a Republican, and became a Democrat on April 30, 2009. Senator Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut was reelected in 2006 as an independent candidate, and became an Independent Democrat. Senator Bernard Sanders of Vermont was elected in 2006 as an Independent.

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112th Congress (2011-2013)
Majority Party: Democrat (51 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (47 seats)
Other Parties: 1 Independent; 1 Independent Democrat
Total Seats: 100

One can find the House membership here: http://artandhistory.house.gov/house_history/index.aspx

[mudslinger47]

Thats all well and good Tony, but the fact remains that Harry Reid isn't a speaker, he's a Dam.

Duane

[15D]

I love this line of thinking. It shows a lack of understanding about how Congress, and in particular how the Senate, works. While it is true, the Dems had a 'majority' in Congress until after the 2010 election, a party really must have 60 votes in the Senate to pass any legislation, as has been shown many times recently. The Dems only held this advantage in the Senate when two Independents would vote with them (Lieberman and Sanders) and after Spector changed parties in April 2009. Also, Robert Byrd died in June 2010 causing his seat to be vacant until after the November special election, causing another hurdle to attaining 60 votes. So, while technically the statement on Dem majority is true, it is quite misleading IMO.

]

Budget Bills are immune from filibustering.

[bite me too]

If you don't know anything about the highest profile person in America, and you think the only historical record of him is his own words, then you aren't looking very hard.

What were his grades in college? What was his thesis about? Who paid for this underprivileged son of a "single" mother to go to private schools his whole life? These are things that we don't know about this particular "highest profile" person (I assume you meant President) in America. Yet, every other person that runs for the highest office in the land has there early life scoured and picked apart. Remember, Bush was stupid...except he really wasn't.


His voting record in Congress was the one of the most liberal on record in his 143 days there, that he didn't vote present for. His mentor was Frank Marshal Davis, a Communist who was on the FBI watch list, he "taught" Saul Alinsky....these are the things I've learned about him threw my research...and, I even have to look "hard". Why can't CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN and even Fox find these things out and share them with the American people?

[Clayton_Wetter]

Under America’s Fraud President, our country has suffered tremendously:


26 million are underemployed
47 million Americans are living in poverty—that’s 1 in 7
Federal debt and deficit are the highest since World War II
Long-term unemployment is the highest since the 1930s
Home ownership is the lowest since 1965
Government dependency is at the highest level EVER in American history


Lie after lie after lie—at our expense.


NO JOBS! - He said he was going to create jobs.

HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT - He said unemployment would drop to 5.6%.

FRAUD BIRTH CERTIFICATE - He said he was an American-born citizen.

OBAMATAX TO STRIP AMERICA - He said he wouldn’t raise taxes.

FORECLOSURES AND BANKRUPTIES ARE SKY HIGH - He said the private sector is doing well.

FREE ENTERPRISED DESTROYED - He said if you have your own business, you didn’t build that.

OBAMATAX IS A TAX - He said ObamaCare was not a tax.

[Clayton_Wetter]

Let’s be honest, Obama is a communist revolutionary and an enemy of the United States. [Proof]

After his election, Obama and his followers began incrementally overthrowing our government and installing a dictatorship. They must be immediately arrested and jailed by whatever means necessary for waging war against us. Mass impeachments, if necessary, can come later.

If Obama is still in office, my first order of business to get the ball rolling will be to call for the referring of the matter of Barack Obama to the House Judiciary Committee to investigate grounds for impeachment for, inter alia, failing to protect the States from invasion (Art. IV, sec. 4, U.S. Constitution), RICO violations, sedition, national security offenses, and other acts of treason.

If the massive Congressional and Executive corruption continues, my second order of business from the floor will be to call upon the Commanding General of the United States Army Military District of Washington to immediately execute arrest and search and seizure warrants on Barack Obama, his staff, and others; or, in the alternative, that they be confined as unlawful combatants. If necessary, a military tribunal determined by the Joint Chiefs of Staff should then serve as our interim Executive and employ special prosecutors until a new election is held.

If it’s illegal to directly overthrow our nation using armed insurgents, then it’s clearly illegal to indirectly overthrow our nation by massive fraud [Proof] and espionage using an unarmed insurgent President, his staff, and others. You can’t do indirectly what you’re prohibited from doing directly, even if you follow Rules for Radicals, smile, and do endless diversionary teleprompter propaganda and political indoctrination harangues. You can’t use the Constitution to destroy the Constitution. Most lawmaking is pointless until Obama and his gang are removed.

Based on insurgency histories, traffic analysis and threat assessments, there are in excess of 10,000 communist revolutionaries in the US who will be facing life in prison, and close to 1,000 facing capital punishment.

If Obama’s arrest and impeachment are unsuccessful, and as a last resort, I (Ernest Huber) will assemble other Members of Congress, citizens, and militias, and proceed to the White House to implement the following foundational directive:

“But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.” (The Declaration of Independence)

[Clayton_Wetter]

Any doubt Americans may have had that Barack Obama is a Marxist should be alleviated now after hearing his rhetoric in a speech in Virginia over the weekend, top talk-radio host Michael Savage told his listeners last night.

Asserting that it is governments and not individuals who create jobs, Obama told entrepreneurs Friday: “If you’ve got a business – you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.”

“You didn’t get there on your own,” the president said. “I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart.”

After playing the audio of Obama’s remarks, Savage offered a blunt assessment.

“So there’s communism,” he said. “That’s Karl Marx Obama. That’s Hugo Chavez Obama. That’s Joseph Stalin Obama. This is a very dangerous man.”

Savage, noting he has studied dictatorships, recalled that tyrannical regimes “begin with innocent remarks like this.”

“This man is the most dangerous, most divisive, most evil – I’ll use the word evil – president in the history of America.”

Savage acknowledged he was “stepping up” his own rhetoric, because the situation requires it, and no one else will.

“Things don’t start the way they end,” he warned, drawing lessons from history. “They start with the most innocent remarks like this.”

The elected Nazi dictator, Adolf Hitler, whose rhetoric originated with 19th century French anti-Semites, did not start with death camps but with relatively benign racial purity laws, and no one stopped him, Savage pointed out.

“The rhetoric Obama is expressing is not his own rhetoric,” Savage said. ‘This is what is deeply embedded in the man’s brain stem. He has been inculcated with hatred for the American way from the cradle.”

The Cambodian dictator Pol Pot, Savage recalled, “was a mild mannered professor like Obama” who went to Paris, studied Marxism “and came back a flaming communist.”

“It ended with a mountain of skulls,” Savage said, with some 2 million people slaughtered in Cambodia’s infamous “killing fields.”

Pol Pot, instituting what he was taught at Paris universities, unleashed his Khmer Rouge on anyone with an education – the productive people of society.

“What does this have to do with that nice man in the White House with such a nice wife and nice children?” Savage asked his “Savage Nation” audience.

“It starts with rhetoric like this,” he said. “It unleashes the genie in the bottle. It justifies any acts of betrayal, any acts of hatred, any acts of sabotage against the successful.”

He called Obama “the most hateful man who has ever plagued the White House.”

“Everything is at stake in November,” he said.

“Unfortunately, on the other side,” Savage added, referring to presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney, “we have Mr. Peepers, Mr. Milquetoast, Mr. Checked Pants, Mr. Country Club, Mr. Nice Guy.

“I’ll remind you of something else,” Savage said. “Nice guys don’t finish last, Mr. Romney. They don’t finish at all.”

As WND reported last week, the new Talk Stream Live “Power 50,” which ranks the top talk-radio shows streaming on the Web, has Savage in the No. 2 spot.

Talk Stream Live says it sampled more than 1.2 million listeners during the first six months of the year to produce “The Power 50 Report” – the 50 most influential talk show hosts on the Internet and on mobile devices.

“We are proud to report that Rush Limbaugh is No. 1 and Michael Savage is No. 2,” said TSL. “These are the most listened to talk show hosts in the world.”

Savage’s show can be heard Monday through Friday from 6 p.m. to 9 p.m. Eastern Time on local stations nationwide and and via the Web.

[Clayton_Wetter]

Chilling Letter from Proctor & Gamble to Obama
Who would have thought, and yet many are thinking it.

By Lou Pritchett, Procter & Gamble

A LETTER FROM A PROCTER AND GAMBLE EXECUTIVE TO THE PRESIDENT* THE LAST SENTENCE IS THE MOST CHILLING
Lou Pritchett is one of corporate America 's true living legends- an
Acclaimed author, dynamic teacher and one of the world's highest
Rated speakers. Successful corporate executives everywhere recognize
Him as the foremost leader in change management.. Lou changed the way
America does business by creating an audacious concept that came to
Be known as "partnering."
Pritchett rose from soap salesman to Vice-President, Sales and Customer Development for Procter and Gamble and over the course of 36 years; made corporate history.
AN OPEN LETTER TOPRESIDENT OBAMA
Dear President Obama:

You are the thirteenth President under whom I have lived and unlike
Any of the others, you truly scare me.

You scare me because after months of exposure, I know nothing about you.

You scare me because I do not know how you paid for your expensive
Ivy League education and your upscale lifestyle and housing with no
Visible signs of support.

You scare me because you did not spend the formative years of youth
Growing up in America and culturally you are not an American.

You scare me because you have never run a company or met a payroll.

You scare me because you have never had military experience, thus
Don't understand it at its core.

You scare me because you lack humility and 'class', always blaming others.

You scare me because for over half your life you have aligned
Yourself with radical extremists who hate America and you refuse to
Publicly denounce these radicals who wish to see America fail..

You scare me because you are a cheerleader for the 'blame America '
Crowd and deliver this message abroad.

You scare me because you want to change America to a European style
Country where the government sector dominates instead of the private sector.

You scare me because you want to replace our health care system
With a government controlled one.

You scare me because you prefer 'wind mills' to responsibly
Capitalizing on our own vast oil, coal and shale reserves.

You scare me because you want to kill the American capitalist goose
That lays the golden egg which provides the highest standard of
Living in the world.

You scare me because you have begun to use 'extortion' tactics
Against certain banks and corporations.

You scare me because your own political party shrinks from
Challenging you on your wild and irresponsible spending proposals.

You scare me because you will not openly listen to or even consider
Opposing points of view from intelligent people.

You scare me because you falsely believe that you are both
Omnipotent and omniscient.

You scare me because the media gives you a free pass on everything
You do.

You scare me because you demonize and want to silence the
Limbaugh's, Hannitys, O'Reillys and Becks who offer opposing,
Conservative points of view.

You scare me because you prefer controlling over governing.

Finally, you scare me because if you serve a second term I will
Probably not feel safe in writing a similar letter in 8 years.

Lou Pritchett
*
*
This letter was sent to the NY Times but they never acknowledged it.
Big surprise. Since it hit the Internet, however, it has had over
500,000 hits. Keep it going. All that is necessary for evil to succeed is for
Good men do nothing.. It's happening right now. The CHANGE is here!!
90% of Americans
will forward this.
WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH!

[bostinks]

oblamo scares me and I aint scared of nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bite me too]

For the doubters (of which I was, 'cuz these types of things are usually email gossips.....sorry Clayton) snopes has confirmed this...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/youscareme.asp


AND, Mr. Pritchett has a follow up at the link too

[Clayton_Wetter]

Dear friends,


There are less than 4 months until election day when the people will decide who will be the next President of the United States.

The person elected will be the president of all Americans, not just the Democrats or the Republicans. It's time that we all need to come together, Democrats and Republicans alike, in a bi-partisan effort for America:

If you will support Mitt Romney, please drive with your headlights ON during the day.

If you support Barack Obama, please drive with your headlights OFF at night.

Together,. we can make it happen Thank you!

[TS FAN]

It comes down to getting out the vote. IMO pay no attention to the polls. Obama is lagging quite a bit behind. (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) Morris is a top pollster and he usually gets it right. He says that he expects Romney to get about 350 electoral votes. That may be a little high, but then again it would make sense. Clinton will be voting for Romney, count on that. Right there, it is telling. Meaning the dems might be supporting him outwardly to keep in good graces, but when they vote it will be another matter. N/S this weekend. Who will win??????