Which purse makes more sense !

[TUTY]

I'm using the usa nationals a-main pay-out as a example :
$50,000,20,000,10,000,6000,5000,4500,4250,4000,375 0,3500,3250,3000,2800,2650,2500,2400,
2300,2200,2100,2075,2050,2025,2010, $2000 to start $148,360.00
or
$25,000,17,500,12,500,10,000,8500,7000,600,5500,50 00,4500,4250,4000,3750,3500,3250,3000,
2900,2800,2700,2600, $2500 to start $149,250.00

more to win or 24 cars make more money !

[NormP]

I don't always understand the argument about paying "More through the field."

If I was a driver I'd be racing for first place, which means I'd rather win $50,000 than $25,000. If I didn't think I had a shot at winning every time I pulled onto the track, I'd find another sport.

[pink floyd]

if that was the case, racing as we know it would be over.

[TUTY]

You don't think alot of drivers don't look at the top 5 and starting money. Reality is the chances of 1/2 to 3/4 of the field are running for top 5 or 10 !

[pink floyd]

if i was a driver, the 25k to win purse.

[NormP]

if that was the case, racing as we know it would be over.

If people raced for first place racing as we know it would be over?

And you'd rather win a $25K purse than a 50K purse?

That's a new one on me...

[TDRacin®]

Race to win, or don't show up!

[Cyberwhip]

You really think drivers are going to race really hard , beat and bang etc, for the next position, $25 to $100?

As a fan I think it wouldn't be much fun to watch.

There must be some "motivation" to make a race interesting. The bigger the difference in payout of position, the harder they will fight for it.

[River Duck]

If your talking about making sense to a promotor, I think putting the "money on the nose" usually works best. People, including spectators and drivers, are interested in the posted, money to win.

[whitey1156]

i drive a race car and i did not think i could win i am just wasting time and money, i will not settle to be just a field filler .

[DownNDirty]

I don't know what the total purse was for the Eldora Million - I know it sounded cool to be able to win a million dollars - but I think a million total purse race would be better or a million dollar week of racing. I honestly think a lot of guys look at how it pays through the field anymore more than just what it is to win.

Back in the mid 90s around East TN Bulls Gap would have 5-6 big races a year that were $10,000 to win and $1,200 to start - they always emphasized the start money I do remember that.

I think drivers would like the $25,000 purse below better because only one guy can win as has been said and you never know what kind of mechanical or tire troubles you may have during a race. Yeah, a lot of them go for the win but if they know they can't get it being able to rake in as much in a good purse makes as much sense to me.

I would love to see "million week" where you schedule 5 races and allot 7 nights to do it in case of rain (at one track or group of tracks working together).

Each race would pay:

1) $25,000 2) $20,000 3) $17,500 4) $15,000 5) $12,500 6) $11,500 7) $10,500 8) $10,000 9) $9,500 10) $9,000 11) $8,500 12) $8,000 13) $7,500 14) $7,000 15) $6,500 16) $6,000 17) $5,500 18) $5,000 19) $4,500 20) $4,000 21) $3,500 22) $3,000 23) $2,750 24) $2,500 = $214,750 purse/night

Total weekly purse: $1,073,750

[StraightCircles]

Purse structure totally depends on location.

[NormP]

i drive a race car and i did not think i could win i am just wasting time and money, i will not settle to be just a field filler .

Exactly! Just like I suspected most racers are. Why race if you aren't in it to win?!?

[zyoung25]

Here's what I would look at let's say u lead 77 of the 100 laps something breaks where u can't get back in and there has been 10 or so car fall out already are u gonna want to get paid the same as the guy in dead last even though u finished 14th....I know I wouldn't

[wimpyrox]

I've said the same thing for a long time now. You gotta want to win,that's the key. Winning . Pay a ton of $$$ to win and they will show up. You gotta have trust in your equipment,driving skills,etc... If you're good,and you hit enough big races,youll make $$$ ,and get a reputation. I think its in a racers nature to want to win,its the business crappy that stands in the way. Although I understand if you're gonna run your racin/hobby as a business,its gonna suffer from the "bean counter" mentality. Ya gotta love it,go full speed ahead,or do what the numbers say,and live with the results. Just my opinion.

[pink floyd]

truth is, at any given race only a handful of guys have a legitimate chance of winning and those racers are going to be there whether it is 25k or 50k to win. sure, many of the other racers go wanting to win, but they know their chances are very slim. with that said, it makes way more sense to me not to have a top heavy purse if you want to have a stronger field of cars. i know plenty of guys who go to certian events because the pay through the field is better.

[Bubstr]

I want the silk purse, made from a sow's ear. Like we have anything to say about the purse. That will be up to the Promoter and the Racer. If they do it right, there will be a good field of cars and the fans will come see them and pay the bill. If they do it wrong, they will go broke. We as fans really have less of a say in this, because we are not going to get rich or go broke.

Some of the top racers, already pick and choose on pay out and tow distance. With the economy the way it is, I expect more of this. It's not so much whether they think they can win, it's a risk/ reward deal. It keeps their program in the Black.

[River Duck]

I want the silk purse, made from a sow's ear. Like we have anything to say about the purse. That will be up to the Promoter and the Racer. If they do it right, there will be a good field of cars and the fans will come see them and pay the bill. If they do it wrong, they will go broke. We as fans really have less of a say in this, because we are not going to get rich or go broke.

Some of the top racers, already pick and choose on pay out and tow distance. With the economy the way it is, I expect more of this. It's not so much whether they think they can win, it's a risk/ reward deal. It keeps their program in the Black.

You might be partially right, in that racers are looking at pay outs and tow distances. But nobody is in the "Black". With just a set of tires costing over $600 and fuel for the hauler, even the winners are loosing money. Again, not trying to pick apart what you were saying, just clarifying the situation a bit.

[Bubstr]

You might be partially right, in that racers are looking at pay outs and tow distances. But nobody is in the "Black". With just a set of tires costing over $600 and fuel for the hauler, even the winners are loosing money. Again, not trying to pick apart what you were saying, just clarifying the situation a bit.

It's always been a fact that The majority of race programs don't make money. If they have to depend on purses only, I don't think there would be any. Sponsors, Apparel and in some cases Chassis, Engine or Race parts sales, or deals that go with them, all has to be utilized to make it go. A racer has to be a dancer, romancer and pretty fair wild horse rider to make ends meet. Why do you think races on TV get more cars. Advertising. Advertising and TV money will eventually be the only things to save our sport. I hate to see it turn into a NASCAR deal, but that looks like what is coming.

[sawyertile]

I don't know what the total purse was for the Eldora Million - I know it sounded cool to be able to win a million dollars - but I think a million total purse race would be better or a million dollar week of racing. I honestly think a lot of guys look at how it pays through the field anymore more than just what it is to win.

Back in the mid 90s around East TN Bulls Gap would have 5-6 big races a year that were $10,000 to win and $1,200 to start - they always emphasized the start money I do remember that.

I think drivers would like the $25,000 purse below better because only one guy can win as has been said and you never know what kind of mechanical or tire troubles you may have during a race. Yeah, a lot of them go for the win but if they know they can't get it being able to rake in as much in a good purse makes as much sense to me.

I would love to see "million week" where you schedule 5 races and allot 7 nights to do it in case of rain (at one track or group of tracks working together).

Each race would pay:

1) $25,000 2) $20,000 3) $17,500 4) $15,000 5) $12,500 6) $11,500 7) $10,500 8) $10,000 9) $9,500 10) $9,000 11) $8,500 12) $8,000 13) $7,500 14) $7,000 15) $6,500 16) $6,000 17) $5,500 18) $5,000 19) $4,500 20) $4,000 21) $3,500 22) $3,000 23) $2,750 24) $2,500 = $214,750 purse/night

Total weekly purse: $1,073,750

I would pay 100 dollars for general admission for a chance to watch that week of racing!!! at least