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    Default Best Intake for Holley 4412

    This is for U.M.P rules, so I'm looking for aluminum intakes. Not really sure how to go at 2-barrels, 4-barrels are all I know, so I am running the old intake from the sportsman with an adapter, but I think I am losing power with the wrong intake.
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    My vote would be a good dual plane intake. Spend some money on a good adapter, flow design, hvh, ect.

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    We dynoed a 360" sbc, 14:1, Dart 215cc, Crower 252/260 .600/.586 FT, gauge legal Willy's 4412 with a Edelbrock Vic Jr, Vic Jr Sportsman 2bbl, 2925 Super Vic and a Brodix HV-1000. It pulled the most Tq and HP with the Super Vic...

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    I would have to look at the motor to tell you what intake is on it now... I know its an Edelbrock. I am also running a gauge legal Willy's but on a 406 SBC with the good ol' Double Humps. Probably going to change heads in offseason as well, so help with heads would be great too..
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    I have one of each on 2 seperate motors....Super victor Jr and super victor Jr 2V. I spent good money on a HVH spacer for victor Jr...I felt no difference in the two except throttle was crisper with 2V however, you may see a difference on the Dyno...whatever set up you can get in the cheapest,is the route I would go. I would get ya a good set of DART heads though. Get that compression up on 2bbl motors!
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    the motown intake was slightly better for us than a super victor with a gauge legal 4412 and a set of 200 runner eq heads. i've heard the victor 2bbl is good as well.

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    Well, I'm a cheap bastard, so my idea of a dyno is how well I do on the track! Lol so I'm just going to have to hope I choose the right things. Any certain numbers on the Darts I should look for?
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    I have never heard of a Motown intake... Are they pretty common?
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    World Products makes them...We did not have one to dyno test when we were comparing intakes...

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    I think I am going to go with the Super Vic, and DART Iron Eagle heads. Good combo? Or could I do better? I don't know much about World Product stuff, so I would rather stick with companies that I have had success with..
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    the super victor is a very nice intake. in our tests the motown was only slightly better..like 4 or 5 hp iirc. if you are gonna buy new heads i'd look into the vortec bowties with the vortec super victor intake part number 2814.

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    Sorry guys i'm stuck in Imca land. Just looked at the UMP rules. Little diff animal there!

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    Jeff, thanks for the offer, but I would prefer to buy heads new and install our own valve train components. I know that around here, Vortec's get there butt's handed to them! And I will have to research the RHS's, I hear they are pretty good, but I don't know much about them.

    istock, yeah, i was going to go to Quad City Speedway once, but it would take me about a month to make the car IMCA legal! lol
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    dont confuse the stock vortecs with vortec bowties. they aren't even close to the same head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stockcar5 View Post
    dont confuse the stock vortecs with vortec bowties. they aren't even close to the same head.
    What is the difference in them?
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    Huge difference in air flow! Like comparing an old set of double humps with an old set of 292 Bowtie turbo heads...One is a racing head and the other a street head...

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    the vortec bowties are like a dart head but with vortec chambers and the raised runners the vortecs have. they are a way more efficient head. the larger vortec bowtie is a 225cc runner and the smaller head is a 185. cnc blocks on here has made well over 600 hp with vortec bowties and only 360ci.

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    Is a cam with a 245 intake duration and .555 lift big enough to work with the Motown 061040 intake? Heads are stock 200 Dart Platinums.

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    So what would be better for a two barrel, the large port or small port? and then how would the Bowtie Vortec with Super Vic Vortec Intake compare to the DART Iron Eagle CNC with a Super Vic intake? And ONE more question, does anyone have any dyno sheets for a Bowtie Vortec head with a Holley 4412?
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