The vote on Funding the Benefits for our Veterans.

[kidrock]

wake up your in dream land againand congress and the prez are the elitist

Really and with Wall ST doing so good in such a poor economy but the middle class doing so poorly. Come on liteee wake up.

[LITE-INN]

Yes and do you remember the republicans were so he'll bent on making sure Obama did not get reelected they forgot to actually govern. I would bet the bill would be quite different if they would have instead of trying everything in their power to make sure Obama did not get reelected. Yes a lot of bills are passed in that same manner but,that's be real it's not like it was this big secrete. It was talked about,debated like you posted for 25 days and on every news channel out there for weeks. Well I'm not going to say what the republicans are doing is not fair heck life is not fair at times but, I don't think it was to smart and the polls are showing that. Listen if you think I'm happy with the way the dems have handled things you are mistaken. Same has Obama he has made mistakes no doubt about it but, I just love those people that think the republicans never do no wrong. Gotta love it.

they don't like the policy

[mudeater18]

Really? Why don't you ask yourself why you are so obsessed with hating a duly, legally and legitimately elected President?

1) Guantanamo Bay - As a candidate, Barack Obama repeatedly stated he would close the Guantanamo Bay detention center
- FAIL

2) Letting Bush-Era Tax Cuts Expire - As a candidate, Barack Obama said he opposed tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans and if elected to the highest office in the land, he would let the Bush-era tax cuts expire.
- FAIL

3) Foreclosure Prevention Fund - During the campaign, candidate Obama said he would create a $10 billion fund designed to come to the aid of homeowners at risk of foreclosure.
- FAIL

4) Immigration Reform - As a candidate out on the campaign trail, Mr. Obama promised to provide a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants.
- FAIL

5) National Deficit - As a candidate, Mr. Obama promised he would cut the national debt by half in four years. The national debt which was around $7 trillion when Obama took office has more than doubled to over $16 trillion in 5 years and he has 3 years left to continue to raise it. (Keep in mind that the 7 trillion was compiled by every president fro G. Washington to G. Bush). And now he wants to spend trillions more on a Healthcare bill the majority of the people don't want and is asking to "borrow" more ?.
- FAIL
Do you need more reasons ????

[LITE-INN]

Really and with Wall ST doing so good in such a poor economy but the middle class doing so poorly. Come on liteee wake up.

better check that again wall street and our wonderful congress has been behind all of this for a long time

[LITE-INN]

but the tea party is not http://www.theindychannel.com/news/u...d-the-shutdown

[LITE-INN]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworst...t-or-congress/

[kidrock]

they don't like the policy

So are you saying they don't want people to get affordable health care. They would just rather things go as they are and let heath care cost keep rising at a rate that is not sustainable. They would rather people lose everything they have if they have a serious illness or get into a serious accident because, they can't afford the insurance. After all they have to pay for this through a private insurer. What I'm saying if they would at least done their job and governed the bill might have been different. I think we can all agree the bill in it's current form has problems. Does not mean they can not be fixed.

[kidrock]

better check that again wall street and our wonderful congress has been behind all of this for a long time

I agree the congress does exactly what the elitist want ( wall st).

[kidrock]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworst...t-or-congress/

What's a shame their should have been many arrest made for those on wall st. after 2007 but, that just show's you are powerful they really are. like I said they control congress.

[racin6mod]

1) Guantanamo Bay - As a candidate, Barack Obama repeatedly stated he would close the Guantanamo Bay detention center
- FAIL

2) Letting Bush-Era Tax Cuts Expire - As a candidate, Barack Obama said he opposed tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans and if elected to the highest office in the land, he would let the Bush-era tax cuts expire.
- FAIL

3) Foreclosure Prevention Fund - During the campaign, candidate Obama said he would create a $10 billion fund designed to come to the aid of homeowners at risk of foreclosure.
- FAIL

4) Immigration Reform - As a candidate out on the campaign trail, Mr. Obama promised to provide a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants.
- FAIL

5) National Deficit - As a candidate, Mr. Obama promised he would cut the national debt by half in four years. The national debt which was around $7 trillion when Obama took office has more than doubled to over $16 trillion in 5 years and he has 3 years left to continue to raise it. (Keep in mind that the 7 trillion was compiled by every president fro G. Washington to G. Bush). And now he wants to spend trillions more on a Healthcare bill the majority of the people don't want and is asking to "borrow" more ?.
- FAIL
Do you need more reasons ????

all would have been good changes but he did not know the extent of the gop/Koch brothers fight on every signal issue he wanted to work on. they even fought on ideas that they put out as soon as he agreed they did a 180 and voted against their own ideas.the prisoner have to be relocated and no one wanted to take on BUSH/CHANEY'S problem so we ended up stuck with them. most should have been shot on sight.

the national deficit has been going up for many years under Reagan the debt ceiling went up 18 times under bush sr 9 time Clinton 6 times bush jr 7 times with no big fight under a black guy named oboma it's a huge deal a manufactured problem.

the gop should have thought about all of the things that people care about before they shut them down under orders from the Koch brother months ago the plan was set in motion by none of the gop cared to bring up the idea hey we need to keep a few of these things open. now that people are pissed off they want to push blame and have their fake votes and refund only the things people are proving should have never been closed.
they need a name change how about Koch bros instead of Replublican or tea party

[mudeater18]

all would have been good changes but he did not know the extent of the gop/Koch brothers fight on every signal issue he wanted to work on. they even fought on ideas that they put out as soon as he agreed they did a 180 and voted against their own ideas.the prisoner have to be relocated and no one wanted to take on BUSH/CHANEY'S problem so we ended up stuck with them. most should have been shot on sight.

the national deficit has been going up for many years under Reagan the debt ceiling went up 18 times under bush sr 9 time Clinton 6 times bush jr 7 times with no big fight under a black guy named oboma it's a huge deal a manufactured problem.

the gop should have thought about all of the things that people care about before they shut them down under orders from the Koch brother months ago the plan was set in motion by none of the gop cared to bring up the idea hey we need to keep a few of these things open. now that people are pissed off they want to push blame and have their fake votes and refund only the things people are proving should have never been closed.
they need a name change how about Koch bros instead of Replublican or tea party

Bottom line is he has failed to deliver on all he promised. If he can't lead, then we need to get someone in the office who can.
Here is a list of all of his accomplishments.
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[mudeater18]

the national deficit has been going up for many years under Reagan the debt ceiling went up 18 times under bush sr 9 time Clinton 6 times bush jr 7 times with no big fight under a black guy named oboma it's a huge deal a manufactured problem.

Here's what Barry O had to say about it when Bush was in office........

"Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that "the buck stops here.'' Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better".

He's right. Americans DO deserve better.

[LITE-INN]

wall street and congress has been doing that for years

[kidrock]

1) Guantanamo Bay - As a candidate, Barack Obama repeatedly stated he would close the Guantanamo Bay detention center
- FAIL

2) Letting Bush-Era Tax Cuts Expire - As a candidate, Barack Obama said he opposed tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans and if elected to the highest office in the land, he would let the Bush-era tax cuts expire.
- FAIL

3) Foreclosure Prevention Fund - During the campaign, candidate Obama said he would create a $10 billion fund designed to come to the aid of homeowners at risk of foreclosure.
- FAIL

4) Immigration Reform - As a candidate out on the campaign trail, Mr. Obama promised to provide a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants.
- FAIL

5) National Deficit - As a candidate, Mr. Obama promised he would cut the national debt by half in four years. The national debt which was around $7 trillion when Obama took office has more than doubled to over $16 trillion in 5 years and he has 3 years left to continue to raise it. (Keep in mind that the 7 trillion was compiled by every president fro G. Washington to G. Bush). And now he wants to spend trillions more on a Healthcare bill the majority of the people don't want and is asking to "borrow" more ?.
- FAIL
Do you need more reasons ????

Yeah so what this happens to every politicians. They promise the world but hardly ever deliver on that promise. Some times it sounds easy but once you get on the job you find out its not as easy as it sounds. All politician promise stuff they know they can't deliver that's how they get elected. Do you think if he would have Said I won't be able to nothing when I get elected do you think he would have been elected.

[mudeater18]

Yeah so what this happens to every politicians. They promise the world but hardly ever deliver on that promise. Some times it sounds easy but once you get on the job you find out its not as easy as it sounds. All politician promise stuff they know they can't deliver that's how they get elected. Do you think if he would have Said I won't be able to nothing when I get elected do you think he would have been elected.

Either way, he didn't deliver. Time to get someone who can. If if the next guy can't, same thing, till we find someone who can. Same with Congress, get 'em out. Time for term limits, same as President. Maybe they'll do something to help the average guy, if in a couple of years they are going to be that average guy. Also, no more paying the President for life. That's BS. Maybe, 1 year while he makes the transition back to a regular job. As long as we keep voting for the same old same old, we know what we're going to get.

[Clayton_Wetter]

Obsession with the Tea Party? Really? Why don't you ask yourself why you are so obsessed with hating a duly, legally and legitimately elected President? I have a particular profound dislike of people who live in cloud cuckoo land, are mentally unstable, ignorant of facts and law, yet spout off like they are God's very own gift to the rest of us.

The basic tenants of the Tea Party are less government- Great IDEA! Fan freakin tastic! Defund the EPA, get rid of all consumer protections, dismantle voter rights laws, remove all regulations on business and let the freaks go NUTS in our nation doing whatever they please. Sounds like a great plan! We should do this TODAY!

A lot of nations tried this.... take a look at any poorly run sweatshop nation and you will see very little government, little regulation, a lot of poverty, sickness and depravation for the masses while the rich folk live like kings pissing on the minions. But hey, let's get rid of government... it would be so much better if business could just EXPLOIT every dam thing with no restrictions. Just look at Credit default swaps and the government bailout that followed when the economy cratered.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a DIFFERENT result.

Basic tenant #2-Less taxes. This works well in conjunction with genius idea number 1. Well shoot, Bubba, we get rid of all them nasty regulations that stand in the way of corporate pillaging of the American economy and we don't have to pay no steenking taxes to pay for it! Kick grandma off food stamps and medicare, make her family pay for her healthcare out of their own pocket. That way, we don't pay no taxes! And the heck with roads, who needs them? If I had all the money I could save by not paying no taxes, why me and Billy Joe Jr could have a private helicopter and wouldn't drive nowhere anyway, why we'd be flying!

And schools? Don't need no steenking edumacashun, just do what corporate Ameriker tells ya on the Tee Vee, that's all you need to be a smarty feller! Besides, when your job only requires you to push a button on the machine or drive the truck (no regulations means you don't have no paperwork to fill out to track loads, or fill out a log book for driving hours cause you can do drugs and drive 24-7 until you get to where you need to go or collapse) who needs to read and write?

Besides, smart folk only git in the way of getting rid of regulations and taxes anyway! We don't need no smarts when we have no regulations to follow and have all that money in taxes to spend anyways!

Tenant 3-Let's get back to following the constitution- Why, (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) GOOD IDEA! So let's start with shutting the phuck up about Obamacare and quit yer dam bellyaching about taxes and regulations, because if you were half the Constitutional Scholar you Tea Billies think you all are, you would already know the law was passed as prescribed in The Constitution, challenged and upheld by the Supreme Court as per your precious Constitution, and is now the law. All of this was done PER THE CONSTITUTION.

Please, enlighten us all, Oh Tea Billies, which part of the Constitution was VIOLATED? Oh, wait..... All of it, right? Because any time the Tea Billy doesn't get his own way, he immediately starts shouting about "That's against the CONSTERTUSION!!!!! It aint right how this administration just walks all over the CONSTERTUSION!!!"

I read your posts and quite frankly, it is blatantly obvious you never bother to go look up anything for yourself. You referred in your post before about "pass the law to know what's in it" made by Pelosi, but have you ever gone to look and see in what context that comment was made? No. You haven't. And of course, in the context it was made, it was a perfectly valid comment and point to make: In response to Republicans claiming they hadn't read the law but were having to vote on it and they were sure it was bad and could Pelosi tell them why they should vote for something they didn't really understand what was in it, her comment back was "well then, you'll have to pass the law to FIND OUT what's in it." In other words, her point was, as mine is now, QUIT DEMANDING OTHER PEOPLE THINK FOR YOU! Do your own research, figure things out for yourself, read, investigate, and for God's sake turn something on other than the right wing propaganda. Because I listen to that everyday too, and you will NEVER get a legitimate, well rounded perspective when you only listen to one side. Especially THAT side.

When you can't win with any true facts, tnie turns to this delusional world of himself outnumbering the masses. So obvious that you are a Socialist pig squealing in frustration over seeing so many others that believe in patriotism, the constitution, free markets, and the end of government interference and control. Your wasting your time on here trying to twist the facts and the truth. Maybe your time could be better served by creating a liberal hack blog or becoming a REAL political activist and taking your anger to the streets?!!

As far as new people posting on here, they probably see your nonsense and respond out of duty.

[Clayton_Wetter]

all would have been good changes but he did not know the extent of the gop/Koch brothers fight on every signal issue he wanted to work on. they even fought on ideas that they put out as soon as he agreed they did a 180 and voted against their own ideas.the prisoner have to be relocated and no one wanted to take on BUSH/CHANEY'S problem so we ended up stuck with them. most should have been shot on sight.

the national deficit has been going up for many years under Reagan the debt ceiling went up 18 times under bush sr 9 time Clinton 6 times bush jr 7 times with no big fight under a black guy named oboma it's a huge deal a manufactured problem.

the gop should have thought about all of the things that people care about before they shut them down under orders from the Koch brother months ago the plan was set in motion by none of the gop cared to bring up the idea hey we need to keep a few of these things open. now that people are pissed off they want to push blame and have their fake votes and refund only the things people are proving should have never been closed.
they need a name change how about Koch bros instead of Replublican or tea party

The Koch Brothers have nothing to do with the Marxist policies and beliefs Of Obummer. ANY ONE who would fight against what this man is doing, is doing a service to the nation. At least on that point!!

[kidrock]

all would have been good changes but he did not know the extent of the gop/Koch brothers fight on every signal issue he wanted to work on. they even fought on ideas that they put out as soon as he agreed they did a 180 and voted against their own ideas.the prisoner have to be relocated and no one wanted to take on BUSH/CHANEY'S problem so we ended up stuck with them. most should have been shot on sight.

the national deficit has been going up for many years under Reagan the debt ceiling went up 18 times under bush sr 9 time Clinton 6 times bush jr 7 times with no big fight under a black guy named oboma it's a huge deal a manufactured problem.

the gop should have thought about all of the things that people care about before they shut them down under orders from the Koch brother months ago the plan was set in motion by none of the gop cared to bring up the idea hey we need to keep a few of these things open. now that people are pissed off they want to push blame and have their fake votes and refund only the things people are proving should have never been closed.
they need a name change how about Koch bros instead of Replublican or tea party

Yep you got it the Koch brothers are controlling the republican party right now.

[t.nie]

1) Guantanamo Bay - As a candidate, Barack Obama repeatedly stated he would close the Guantanamo Bay detention center
- FAIL

2) Letting Bush-Era Tax Cuts Expire - As a candidate, Barack Obama said he opposed tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans and if elected to the highest office in the land, he would let the Bush-era tax cuts expire.
- FAIL

3) Foreclosure Prevention Fund - During the campaign, candidate Obama said he would create a $10 billion fund designed to come to the aid of homeowners at risk of foreclosure.
- FAIL

4) Immigration Reform - As a candidate out on the campaign trail, Mr. Obama promised to provide a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants.
- FAIL

5) National Deficit - As a candidate, Mr. Obama promised he would cut the national debt by half in four years. The national debt which was around $7 trillion when Obama took office has more than doubled to over $16 trillion in 5 years and he has 3 years left to continue to raise it. (Keep in mind that the 7 trillion was compiled by every president fro G. Washington to G. Bush). And now he wants to spend trillions more on a Healthcare bill the majority of the people don't want and is asking to "borrow" more ?.
- FAIL
Do you need more reasons ????

Oh, and I am supposed to sit here and believe for one moment that you give a rat's behind about any of the things you mentioned? Please. You could care less about any of it, you just HATE the man because as Joe the Plumber said on his most recent blog post you think anyone other than a white male Republican over the age of 40 in the White House is completely un-American.

Best get used to seeing the face of the USA being someone other than what stares back at you in the mirror every day. Either that or enjoy the rest of your miserable existence in America, because if you think that old rich white men are going to keep dominating American government, you are dead wrong.

[t.nie]

When you can't win with any true facts, tnie turns to this delusional world of himself outnumbering the masses. So obvious that you are a Socialist pig squealing in frustration over seeing so many others that believe in patriotism, the constitution, free markets, and the end of government interference and control. Your wasting your time on here trying to twist the facts and the truth. Maybe your time could be better served by creating a liberal hack blog or becoming a REAL political activist and taking your anger to the streets?!!

As far as new people posting on here, they probably see your nonsense and respond out of duty.

Give me one fact that supports your presumptions, Terry. Just one. Please. You are the one who never posts anything but your own hot air and bloviations with nothing at all to back it up.

Check out the latest polls showing the true middle of the nation, Terry. You are in an extreme right wing minority of 28%, hard right, conservative, Tea Party wing nuts. Your percentage of the population matches the latest Gallup poll number of how many see the Republicans favorably these days.

Dying breed. Darwin at work.

On the left, however, it's just 21% who are really far left, socialists, redistribution of wealth through welfare types. Just 21%.

Now, as for me and the rest like me, we are the dominant majority with just over 51%. We don't like the extremists on either side, we are very frustrated with the dysfunctional mess in Congress, we feel taxes for the wealthy should go up, government should get out of our personal lives, and we want our government to do more to help the common folk instead of the radical extremists.

And by the way, we really don't like the Tea Billies, because we see them as the Nazi Dictator types in our government who flat refuse to do anything sensible and instead of hell bent on just causing as much damage to our nation as possible. Guys like Ted Cruz, true Canadians, sent here to surreptitiously destroy our nation by infiltrating our government and spreading their cancer.

But like I said, you are a dying breed. Old, out of touch, hateful and misinformed. But very loud, none the less. Kind of like that last big gasp before the lights go out for good.