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 Hoosier A40S
Is anyone else having issues with these tires? Every one I've seen is feathered or shredded after just a few laps.
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I have talked to several guys and they all have said they are Garbage.... Feather in like 8 lap heat Races... and Burn them off in Features ....
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I think there should be lifeguards in the genepool.
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Not good....I saw several tires from Lasalle and they were junked after hot laps and qualifying...
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I hope the folks that cried about the D's end up with a trailer full of them junk things! Wait, who am I kidding, the ones bitch!ng about the D's don't buy new tires anyway.
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round round we go...maybe hoosier can get American racer to give'em some tips...ump and hoosier want to make as marginal a tire as possible to get more of your $...imho.....funny thing is years ago all we ran was d's, everybody, with no issues then all of the sudden bout five years ago, they would wear out unloading the car off the trailer.
powerslave
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Hoosier released a statement saying all the wear was from improper siping... all the junked ones I saw at LaSalle had no sipes in them whatsoever....
#72W U.M.P Stock Car
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Taken directly from Hoosier Midwest:
Hoosier comments on new A40-S
HOOSIER Customers,
Everyone at Hoosier Racing Tire and our affiliated distributors and dealers are keeping a close eye on the performance of our new A40-S UMP Modified Tire.
It is my intent to attend UMP Mod events this coming weekend to see the results first-hand at Granite City, Pevely, and Quincy, IL.
We don’t want to rush to any judgment as early season track prep, weather conditions, and rule changes can often lead to unusual results.
One thing we know for sure from our tire testing is that everyone needs to reduce the amount and depth of their siping on the new A40-S. Let the tire do the work for you.
We single siped the test tires when we evaluated them and had no issues with chunking and the tires fired right away.
Also, the new A40-S will show a different wear characteristic than the old A40. Expect to see more grain and feathering. Buff the tire back to a smooth grain and race it again.
We found the new A40-S will repeat much better than the old A40 and the wear will prevent the tire from “sealing up” in marginal track conditions.
We had similar feedback initially on the LM30-S Late Model tire when customers oversiped and were too aggressive initially. Once they backed off their siping and got comfortable with the new wear pattern, they have been very happy ever since.
Yes, we need to monitor the situation directly over the next 2-3 weeks. However it is too early in the game to make any adjustments yet.
Thank you for your cooperation and understanding and please feel free to give us a call if you have any more specific questions.
Sincerely,
Shanon Rush
Product Manager
#72W U.M.P Stock Car
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(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) just bought some of these clunkers cause in IL we can olny run H's or A's guess I need to find some old A's or buy some new H's. Thanks Hoosier.
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 Originally Posted by dirtracr33
round round we go...maybe hoosier can get American racer to give'em some tips...ump and hoosier want to make as marginal a tire as possible to get more of your $...imho.....funny thing is years ago all we ran was d's, everybody, with no issues then all of the sudden bout five years ago, they would wear out unloading the car off the trailer.
I never had a problem with the D's. Most of the problem is, people want a tire that does not wear out. It's not going to happen. Just because a tire still has tread does not mean it is still good. The guy that can buy new tires most often is going to have an advantage no matter what the tire rule is.
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Originally Posted by 72Dubya
Taken directly from Hoosier Midwest:
Hoosier comments on new A40-S
HOOSIER Customers,
Everyone at Hoosier Racing Tire and our affiliated distributors and dealers are keeping a close eye on the performance of our new A40-S UMP Modified Tire.
It is my intent to attend UMP Mod events this coming weekend to see the results first-hand at Granite City, Pevely, and Quincy, IL.
We don’t want to rush to any judgment as early season track prep, weather conditions, and rule changes can often lead to unusual results.
One thing we know for sure from our tire testing is that everyone needs to reduce the amount and depth of their siping on the new A40-S. Let the tire do the work for you.
We single siped the test tires when we evaluated them and had no issues with chunking and the tires fired right away.
Also, the new A40-S will show a different wear characteristic than the old A40. Expect to see more grain and feathering. Buff the tire back to a smooth grain and race it again.
We found the new A40-S will repeat much better than the old A40 and the wear will prevent the tire from “sealing up” in marginal track conditions.
We had similar feedback initially on the LM30-S Late Model tire when customers oversiped and were too aggressive initially. Once they backed off their siping and got comfortable with the new wear pattern, they have been very happy ever since.
Yes, we need to monitor the situation directly over the next 2-3 weeks. However it is too early in the game to make any adjustments yet.
Thank you for your cooperation and understanding and please feel free to give us a call if you have any more specific questions.
Sincerely,
Shanon Rush
Product Manager
That is not the same explanation given by the hoosier reps at LaSalle this past weekend. They said that the problem was that the tires are being sold so fast that they do not have enough cure time. Be interesting to see what becomes of this as time goes by.
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lol sounds like Hoosier is gathering up excuses as they go, the wind was blowing to hard that day, the checks in the mail, the angle of the dangle...etc those that knew about this compound from the late models warn us that this compound was trouble and guess what....they were correct..... now Hoosier trying to do damage control.
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I'm 31 years old and I've made a living in racing for almost half my life, most of which was as a tire specialist. The problem at hand is they released a tire that just wasn't ready yet. The tires are to fresh and they can NOT withstand what these cars are asking out of them. There are ways to toughen the tire up, there are ways to make them last longer and there are ways to stop seeing what you racers are seeing. I'm not going to say that Hoosier won't do their job because that's not fair for me to do, it's a waiting game right now. What I can say is I'm not waiting and my customers will be taken care of.
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any body know what proper cure time is
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probably let set in the sun and let them cook for a couple days.
(providing you are in a more sunny place than me in Southern Indiana)
Make sure you flip them, need to cook evenly.
Also recommend putting them in a black trash bag, so they do not get direct sunlight.
I do this with D's to stiffen them up a bit. basically like a few heat cycles.
I think there should be lifeguards in the genepool.
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The A-40 s announcment was made back in October 2014. Maybe they should have started there production earlier to have the proper cure time.
"Early season track prep,weather conditions and rule changes" This sounds like something Obama would say!
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Just curious...was this tire being used by anyone in Florida during Winter Nationals?
It seems this issue just popped up once everyone started racing the Midwest Tracks.
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No tires were in Florida. at least that most know of.
I believe they started production in March.
Last edited by JustAddDirt; 04-08-2015 at 10:44 AM.
I think there should be lifeguards in the genepool.
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I was told that this tire was being tested at UMP fall nationals at Eldora. Not sure, but does anybody have proof of that?
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It was tested the day AFTER the nationals.
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