Bert Starter rebuild

[lilsumo]

I got two starters that need rebuilt, who does a good job

[powerslide]

What is wrong with them? You could likely rebuild them yourself. Buy a 87 Toyota pickup starter and rob whatever you need off it

[JustAddDirt]

22r motor
stick shift
4wd

same starter just nose gear welded on, the nose cone has been machined, and some internal springs removed.

[let-r-eat]

I heard somewhere a forklift starter of some type (???) works but it must be rewired for opposite rotation. Anyone know anything about that deal?

[Lizardracing]

http://asaprebuilders.com/

[lilsumo]

Thanks, guys, I bought a new Bosch starter from NAPA and did the modifications. First time and it took about 20 minutes. It turns the motor over fine.

[JustAddDirt]

Thanks, guys, I bought a new Bosch starter from NAPA and did the modifications. First time and it took about 20 minutes. It turns the motor over fine.

that is exactly what I build mine from.

Make sure you pull out the little rubber drain grommet in the solenoid casting, and plug it with silicone. since we mount them upside down from intended, that grommet is for a drain, which when flipped over it becomes a place for water and dirt to get in solenoid when washing.

[turtle1hp]

Wow! Thanks for sharing that! I have looked at nippondenso starters for years and didn't even realize that Bert didn't adapt a starter to fit there bell housing. That is a cool thing to remember.

[Krooser]

Ancient post BUT does anyone have the photo tutorial on this... had it but lost it.

[Chris Steele]

No photo tutorial, but here's step by step instructions...Alright, here's the deal. A 1987 Toyota pickup starter for the 22R engine @ Autozone Auto Parts part #16674X for $49.99 with one-year warranty. Don't spring the extra $20 bucks for the lifetime warranty starter because your going to modify it and the warranty will be void anyway.

should be able to do it in 35-40 minutes max.

1. Remove starter head, be careful because there's a middle gear that has a shaft through it that comes out when you remove the head and the gear has roller bearings in it that could fall out. But if they do they are simple to put back in the bottom of the gear.
2. Remove the gear drive from the starter head.
3. Disassemble the gear drive by pushing the shaft up and the gear down to expose the lock ring. Remove the lock ring so you can remove the gear, now remove the small spring, large spring and the washer that has inner grooves and trash them. You'll also leave off the lock ring and ring that was at the end of the gear. Re-assemble the gear drive and get ready to do some welding. Put the gear flush with the end of the shaft and weld it there. You will need to leave the long spring that sticks up out of the starter when the gear drive is removed. The two springs to leave out are IN the gear drive.
4. You now need to get ready to cut on the starter head. There are two "rings" where the starter shaft comes through the head. One is the large one that lines the starter up, the other is smaller right around the hole where the gear comes through. You need to cut the inner/small ring so it's level with the outer ring if you were to lay a straight edge across them.
5. Re-assemble the starter gear drive and starter head onto the starter and tighten bolts.
6. Now remove the cover on the other end of the starter that has 3 small screws holding it on. Take the centerpiece out and put some silicone on the contact that has one small wire to help prevent it from breaking and re-assemble that end. Put your jumper wire on and your ready.

ps make sure the starter gear has a back stop made on the gear. some dont they are open .. if it dont have the back stop it will not engage the bert starter gear to the engine flywheel