Here's the way I see it.....

**mudslinger47** · 03-07-2016, 07:25 PM

I have been a Ted Cruz supporter for a long time, I ,however, am giving thought to switching my allegiance to Trump... anytime both sides, the Republicans and the Democrats have the long knives out for a candidate, and they do against Trump, then maybe, just maybe, that be the guy we need.... comments?

**drano** · 03-07-2016, 07:35 PM

Agree, like you said both party's are so afraid of Trump that could be good for us.

**Clayton_Wetter** · 03-07-2016, 08:16 PM

They don't want Cruz either. How do you trust Trump? CRUZ 2016!!!

**drano** · 03-07-2016, 08:19 PM

They don't like Cruz but all the news media keeps talking about is how to stop Trump. Trump 2016!!!!

**mudslinger47** · 03-07-2016, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by Clayton_Wetter

They don't want Cruz either. How do you trust Trump? CRUZ 2016!!!

You wanna sweep the nation? Trump/Cruz ticket.... Reason? Trump at the very least may be able to give us NY, NJ and a couple other Eastern states, states we generally have no chance in... also would put in play (so they say right now) California... now that would be big... Trump said a couple weeks ago, his Veep has to have inside info on getting Legislation through... and whether you like it or not, Cruz and Trump actually get along pretty good when the cameras are off.. Trump is also very popular on Ohio and Florida .... another thing to keep in mind, the Republicans are breaking records with turn out, and I'll guarantee its Trump.... time to ride that wave.... I doubt Trump would do more then one term, could be wrong but I don't think he would.... Cruz would be almost a shoe in four years with a guy like Rubio.. Rubio is not a bad guy, he's just more establishment then Cruz, and it hurt him big time....

**old fan** · 03-07-2016, 11:14 PM

I would like to see Trump and Carson think about that one

**mudslinger47** · 03-08-2016, 01:16 AM

Originally Posted by old fan

I would like to see Trump and Carson think about that one

Nope, First, Carson ain't all that crazy about Trump and Carson, although a brilliant man just isn't the right temperament ... you have to look at numbers if your wanting to win.. two biggest ticket getters are Trump and Cruz...

**dirtdobber45** · 03-08-2016, 11:46 AM

Go Trump!!! Who else has said that they want to keep illegals out jobs in and people that come from terrorist nation that potentially could harm our country?

**Clayton_Wetter** · 03-08-2016, 02:45 PM

The media destroyed Carson. Don't let the media, play it's political games in trying to shape public opinion folks.

In reality I would run to the voting booths to elect Carson over almost all of the people running for Prez. A man dedicated to doing the right things deserves the chance. But our media will always be against that.

**Clayton_Wetter** · 03-08-2016, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by dirtdobber45

Go Trump!!! Who else has said that they want to keep illegals out jobs in and people that come from terrorist nation that potentially could harm our country?

You may be wrong if you think Trump will keep illegals out. Wishful thinking seems to be collecting him a lot of undue support. When he says something, it contradicts many things he has said and done in the past. Better learn more of his history on what he has said and done before selling out to a possible con man.

**TS FAN** · 03-08-2016, 03:09 PM

Here is the PROBABLE reality. Not trying to be bias on the Rep side, but Trump cannot or will not do most of what he says. He has done a masterful job of touching the Nerves of the unhappy people in this country, including me. But when you look closer, he doesn't really have much defined strategy to get things done, somethings he said he will do is impossible and he is switching positions on a daily basis. IMO if he gets elected, he will be a huge disappointed to his supporters within six months. He just isn't really qualified to lead this country, and is more thin skinned than Obama. You see how that played out.
The other three are qualified IMO. People might want to take note where Cruz is concerned. He has attempted to do what he promised his voters he would try and do. He has stood his ground against the Dems and his own establishment party. He is a man who has proven to believe in the constitution. Just saying.

**TS FAN** · 03-08-2016, 03:22 PM

[QUOTE=dirtdobber45;1991749]Go Trump!!! Who else has said that they want to keep illegals out jobs in and people that come from terrorist nation that potentially could harm our country?[/QUOTE

Voters that want the Dems out of office better open their eyes or we are going to wind up with Clinton by default. Trump just isn't going to do most of what he says, and I doubt he could even get elected.
He makes it look like the President can do and change what every he or she wants. Doesn't work that way. Then we are not even sure what he does want from one day to the next.

**GotDirt1313** · 03-08-2016, 03:49 PM

What I See Happening In a Trump Presidency By Bill Bennett "They will kill him before they let him be president. It could be a Republican or a Democrat that instigates the shutting up of Trump. Don�t be surprised if Trump has an accident. Some people are getting very nervous: Barack Obama, Valerie Jarrett, Eric Holder, Hillary Clinton and Jon Corzine, to name just a few. It's about the unholy dynamics between big government, big business, and big media. They all benefit by the billions of dollars from this partnership, and it's in all of their interests to protect one another. It's one for all and all for one. It�s a heck of a filthy relationship that makes everyone filthy rich, everyone except the American people. We get ripped off. We�re the patsies. But for once, the powerful socialist cabal and the corrupt crony capitalists are scared. The over-the-top reaction to Trump by politicians of both parties, the media, and the biggest corporations of America has been so swift and insanely angry that it suggests they are all threatened and frightened. Donald Trump can self-fund. No matter how much they say to the contrary, the media, business, and political elite understand that Trump is no joke. He could actually win and upset their nice cozy apple cart. It's no coincidence that everyone has gotten together to destroy The Donald. It's because most of the other politicians are part of the a good old boys club. They talk big, but they won�t change a thing. They are all beholden to big-money donors. They are all owned by lobbyists, unions, lawyers, gigantic environmental organizations, and multinational corporations � like Big Pharmacy or Big Oil. Or they are owned lock, stock, and barrel by foreigners like George Soros owns Obama or foreign governments own Hillary and their Clinton Foundation donations. These run-of-the-mill establishment politicians are all puppets owned by big money. But there's one man who isn't beholden to anyone. There's one man who doesn't need foreigners, or foreign governments, or George Soros, or the United Auto Workers, or the teacher's union, or the Service Employees International Union, or the Bar Association to fund his campaign. Billionaire tycoon and maverick Donald Trump doesn�t need anyone�s help. That means he doesn�t care what the media says. He doesn�t care what the corporate elites think. That makes him very dangerous to the entrenched interests. That makes Trump a huge threat to those people. Trump can ruin everything for the bribed politicians and their spoiled slave masters. Don�t you ever wonder why the GOP has never tried to impeach Obama? Don�t you wonder why John Boehner and Mitch McConnell talk a big game, but never actually try to stop Obama? Don�t you wonder why Congress holds the purse strings, yet has never tried to de-fund Obamacare or Obama�s clearly illegal executive action on amnesty for illegal aliens? Bizarre, right? It defies logic, right? First, I'd guess many key Republicans are being bribed. Secondly, I believe many key Republicans are being blackmailed. Whether they are having affairs, or secretly gay, or stealing taxpayer money, the National Security Agency knows everything. Ask former House Speaker Dennis Hastert about that. The government even knew he was withdrawing large sums of his own money from his own bank account. The NSA, the SEC, the IRS, and all the other three-letter government agencies are watching every Republican political leader. They surveil everything. Thirdly, many Republicans are petrified of being called racists, so they are scared to ever criticize Obama or call out his crimes, let alone demand his impeachment. Fourth , why rock the boat? After defeat or retirement, if you�re a good old boy, you�ve got a $5 million-per-year lobbying job waiting. The big-money interests have the system gamed. Win or lose, they win. But Trump doesn�t play by any of these rules. Trump breaks up this nice, cozy relationship between big government, big media, and big business. All the rules are out the window if Trump wins the Presidency. The other politicians will protect Obama and his aides but not Trump. Remember: Trump is the guy who publicly questioned Obama's birth certificate. He questioned Obama's college records and how a mediocre student got into an Ivy League university. Now, he's doing something no Republican has the chutzpah to do. He's questioning our relationship with Mexico; he's questioning why the border is wide open; he's questioning why no wall has been built across the border; he's questioning if allowing millions of illegal aliens into America is in our best interests; he's questioning why so many illegal aliens commit violent crimes, yet are not deported; and he's questioning why our trade deals with Mexico, Russia and China are so bad. Trump has the audacity to ask out loud why American workers always get the short end of the stick. Good question! I'm certain Trump will question what happened to the almost billion dollars given in a rigged no-bid contract to college friends of Michelle Obama at foreign companies to build the defective Obamacare website. By the way, that tab is now up to $5 billion. Trump will ask if Obamacare's architects can be charged with fraud for selling it by lying. Trump will investigate Obama's widespread IRS conspiracy, not to mention Obama's college records. Trump will prosecute Clinton and Obama for fraud committed to cover up Benghazi before the election. How about the fraud committed by employees of the Labor Department when they made up dramatic job numbers in the last jobs report before the 2012 election? Obama, the multinational corporations and the media need to stop Trump. They recognize this could get out of control. If left unchecked, telling the raw truth and asking questions everyone else is afraid to ask, Trump could wake a sleeping giant. Trump's election would be a nightmare. Obama has committed many crimes. No one else but Trump would dare to prosecute. He will not hesitate. Once Trump gets in and gets a look at the cooked books and Obama's records, the game is over. The goose is cooked. Holder could wind up in prison. Jarrett could wind up in prison. Obama bundler Corzine could wind up in prison for losing $1.5 billion of customer money. Clinton could wind up in jail for deleting 32,000 emails or for accepting bribes from foreign governments while Secretary of State, or for misplacing $6 billion as the head of the State Department, or for lying about Benghazi. The entire upper level management of the IRS could wind up in prison. Obamacare will be de-funded and dismantled. Obama himself could wind up ruined, his legacy in tatters. Trump will investigate. Trump will prosecute. Trump will go after everyone involved. That�s why the dogs of hell have been unleashed on Donald Trump. Yes, it's become open season on Donald Trump. The left and the right are determined to attack his policies, harm his businesses, and, if possible, even keep him out of the coming debates. But they can't silence him. And they sure can't intimidate him. The more they try, the more the public will realize that he's the one telling the truth".

**STRONGERTHANDIRT** · 03-08-2016, 05:34 PM

There was a big meeting in Georgia where members of the establishment and big business to find ways to stop Trump and Cruz. Apparently there was a presentation by that fat head Karl Rove mentioning Trump's weaknesses and how to take advantage of those weaknesses. These people need a good ol' fashioned a$$ whooping!!!

**Clayton_Wetter** · 03-08-2016, 06:07 PM

Cruz is not a member of the exclusives club and he actually has a record of standing for the people and against the government cronies. And a lifetime of being dedicated to conservative values. When he says what he is going to do he has the record to back it up. Trump on the other hand flipflops and the issues and has never stood for any principles, except whatever they are that benefits him at the time. It is likely that he is saying all of the things that it takes to get elected. But that is all, he is just saying them to play on peoples anger and frustration. Capitalizing on many peoples wishes to fix all that is wrong with the nation. But can we really trust him to do what he says, when what he says changes even in just a matter of days? I really don't think so. But if he wins, I'll be there to give my vote to him, because the entire Democrat party has gone dark.

**Clayton_Wetter** · 03-08-2016, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by STRONGERTHANDIRT

There was a big meeting in Georgia where members of the establishment and big business to find ways to stop Trump and Cruz. Apparently there was a presentation by that fat head Karl Rove mentioning Trump's weaknesses and how to take advantage of those weaknesses. These people need a good ol' fashioned a$$ whooping!!!

Rove and those elites need to be broken. These people have appointed themselves as all knowing and thus in charge of the people's will, literally. Gotta keep that EXCLUSIVES CLUB going for the power and money.

**old fan** · 03-08-2016, 06:39 PM

the elitist are nothing but jacka$$$e$

**mudslinger47** · 03-08-2016, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by TS FAN

Here is the PROBABLE reality. Not trying to be bias on the Rep side, but Trump cannot or will not do most of what he says. He has done a masterful job of touching the Nerves of the unhappy people in this country, including me. But when you look closer, he doesn't really have much defined strategy to get things done, somethings he said he will do is impossible and he is switching positions on a daily basis. IMO if he gets elected, he will be a huge disappointed to his supporters within six months. He just isn't really qualified to lead this country, and is more thin skinned than Obama. You see how that played out.
The other three are qualified IMO. People might want to take note where Cruz is concerned. He has attempted to do what he promised his voters he would try and do. He has stood his ground against the Dems and his own establishment party. He is a man who has proven to believe in the constitution. Just saying.

You see, your part of the problem, not part of the solution.... you don't "KNOW" anything, you "THINK" that's what will happen.... You are watching live, "The Art of the Deal".... keep your powder dry and just wait.... any time the Republican Hierarchy, the Democrats and the Media are trying to shoot a guy down, that looks like its the guy for me.... I don't have an issue with Cruz, he's a good man, but Trump can give us a couple eastern states that we have no shot at, not to mention Almost a absolute in Florida and a possible in Ca. For what ever reason, some of you guys think Trumps an idiot... you don't get where he's at being an idiot....