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  1. #61
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    And these guys will run for little cash!

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    Tait Davenport has a Longhorn modified.

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    he (dillard) looked great at my hometown track last week.

    those unfamiliar with modifieds need to explore the usmts website, results, and history. it is a great tour with an entertaining format and a barnstorming schedule that has race teams bouncing from track to track in bunches. locals are welcome and competitive. ringers frequently humbled.

    as someone previously mentioned, check out Dirt Knights on YouTube:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQdR...gpHr-TZcvMPCLE



    Points Standings as of August 26, 2016

    Rank No. Driver Points Starts Wins Top 5's Top 10's Earnings
    1 12 Jason Hughes 1486 10 2 9 10 $14,450
    2 97 Cade Dillard 1470 10 4 8 8 $17,900
    3 20 Rodney Sanders 1409 10 1 6 10 $11,900
    4 99 Jesse Sobbing 1404 10 6 9 $9,600
    5 33z Zack VanderBeek 1384 10 1 6 9 $11,850
    6 1st Johnny Scott 1285 10 4 7 $7,550
    7 91 Joe Duvall 1225 10 2 $4,925
    8 4r Dereck Ramirez 1181 10 3 $4,700
    9 2s Stormy Scott 1157 10 2 4 $5,525
    10 6 Brock Bauman 1141 10 $3,815
    11 4 Cody Bauman 1125 10 1 $4,250
    12 37 Mike Jergens 1124 10 3 $3,915
    13 22d Daniel Hilsabeck 1121 10 2 $3,730
    14 81 Mike Densberger 1117 10 2 $3,640
    15 00 Masen Big Eagle 1055 10 1 $2,560
    16 99 Jett Big Eagle 1031 10 $1,875
    17 12d Scott Drake 999 7 4 $3,640
    18 21t Lance Town 994 8 2 $3,050
    19 19r Ryan Gustin 907 5 1 3 3 $6,290
    20 02 Tanner Mullens 752 4 1 $1,390
    21 21 Jacob Bleess 711 5 3 $2,215
    22 4w Tyler Wolff 661 3 $480
    23 69 Lucas Schott 562 2 $300
    24 49jr Jake Timm 561 2 $300
    25 71 Philip Houston 522 0 $0
    26 9 Kevin Rutherford 510 1 $90
    26 5 Todd Shute 510 0 $0
    26 8 Steve Miller 510 0 $0
    29 10 Austin Arneson 508 0 $0
    30 01 Joey Galloway 507 0 $0
    30 4m Bobby Malchus 507 0 $0
    32 60 Dan Ebert 506 1 $775
    23 Adam Kates 468 9 $1,345
    20rt Ricky Thornton Jr. 375 5 2 2 $3,480
    75 Terry Phillips 360 3 1 3 4 $5,900
    186 Jeremy Payne 216 2 1 2 $2,440
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    Quote Originally Posted by klemmabyna View Post
    he (dillard) looked great at my hometown track last week.

    those unfamiliar with modifieds need to explore the usmts website, results, and history. it is a great tour with an entertaining format and a barnstorming schedule that has race teams bouncing from track to track in bunches. locals are welcome and competitive. ringers frequently humbled.

    as someone previously mentioned, check out Dirt Knights on YouTube:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQdR...gpHr-TZcvMPCLE



    Points Standings as of August 26, 2016

    Rank No. Driver Points Starts Wins Top 5's Top 10's Earnings
    1 12 Jason Hughes 1486 10 2 9 10 $14,450
    2 97 Cade Dillard 1470 10 4 8 8 $17,900
    3 20 Rodney Sanders 1409 10 1 6 10 $11,900
    4 99 Jesse Sobbing 1404 10 6 9 $9,600
    5 33z Zack VanderBeek 1384 10 1 6 9 $11,850
    6 1st Johnny Scott 1285 10 4 7 $7,550
    7 91 Joe Duvall 1225 10 2 $4,925
    8 4r Dereck Ramirez 1181 10 3 $4,700
    9 2s Stormy Scott 1157 10 2 4 $5,525
    10 6 Brock Bauman 1141 10 $3,815
    11 4 Cody Bauman 1125 10 1 $4,250
    12 37 Mike Jergens 1124 10 3 $3,915
    13 22d Daniel Hilsabeck 1121 10 2 $3,730
    14 81 Mike Densberger 1117 10 2 $3,640
    15 00 Masen Big Eagle 1055 10 1 $2,560
    16 99 Jett Big Eagle 1031 10 $1,875
    17 12d Scott Drake 999 7 4 $3,640
    18 21t Lance Town 994 8 2 $3,050
    19 19r Ryan Gustin 907 5 1 3 3 $6,290
    20 02 Tanner Mullens 752 4 1 $1,390
    21 21 Jacob Bleess 711 5 3 $2,215
    22 4w Tyler Wolff 661 3 $480
    23 69 Lucas Schott 562 2 $300
    24 49jr Jake Timm 561 2 $300
    25 71 Philip Houston 522 0 $0
    26 9 Kevin Rutherford 510 1 $90
    26 5 Todd Shute 510 0 $0
    26 8 Steve Miller 510 0 $0
    29 10 Austin Arneson 508 0 $0
    30 01 Joey Galloway 507 0 $0
    30 4m Bobby Malchus 507 0 $0
    32 60 Dan Ebert 506 1 $775
    23 Adam Kates 468 9 $1,345
    20rt Ricky Thornton Jr. 375 5 2 2 $3,480
    75 Terry Phillips 360 3 1 3 4 $5,900
    186 Jeremy Payne 216 2 1 2 $2,440


    Toughest modified series on the planet! klemmabyna they set the bar high for their drivers and Todd and Janet Staley are very helpful to their drivers as well from what ive seen..
    If you can't race it or take it to bed! It ain't worth having!

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    There is a pile of money backing a lot of the USMTS cars. ProPower Motors were here before Late Models. You will also be supprized how close they look to Late Models. They kind of race down the middle of the US. MN, WISC, SD, IA, MISSOURI, KANSAS, TX, LOUISIANA. The best of the best will be there. There general pay to win is $3000 but ocasionally $5000 to $10,000 or more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuff said View Post
    So............If the truck race at Eldora is a lame example because or the equipment,this would mean that Pierce is clearly a better driver than Bloomquist because he was hauling a$$ in the same equipment the last 2 years.Only based on that logic of course.
    Logic only works with folks that understand it.........just sayin.
    Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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    10 6 Brock Bauman 1141 10 $3,815 11 4 Cody Bauman 1125 10 1 $4,250 THOSE 2 COULDN'T GET OUT OF THEIR OWN WAY UNDER UMP RULES JUST SAYING

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    Quote Originally Posted by TUTY View Post
    There is a pile of money backing a lot of the USMTS cars. ProPower Motors were here before Late Models. You will also be supprized how close they look to Late Models. They kind of race down the middle of the US. MN, WISC, SD, IA, MISSOURI, KANSAS, TX, LOUISIANA. The best of the best will be there. There general pay to win is $3000 but ocasionally $5000 to $10,000 or more.
    Thanks TUTY.

    As I said before, I was intrigued at the prospect of some of the mod drivers living solely on their race earnings. That statement has since been clarified.

    I'll go away and stop hi-jacking this thread now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old fan View Post
    10 6 Brock Bauman 1141 10 $3,815 11 4 Cody Bauman 1125 10 1 $4,250 THOSE 2 COULDN'T GET OUT OF THEIR OWN WAY UNDER UMP RULES JUST SAYING
    Nothing's changed, but they're learning from the best, and doing it for more.

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    Really better than 4 time ump champion mike harrison or present leader mike long

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    Quote Originally Posted by CIRF View Post
    Interesting that they are are a headliner in some parts of the country and not in others. What kind of purses do they race for at events where they are the headliner?

    I had to be in Southwest Minnesota over Independence Day on business several years back. I got to checking around and found out from some folks who weren't particularly race fans that there was a racing event at the Steele County Fairgrounds in Owatonna. I took it for granted that this event was to be headlined by dirt late models. I decided to attend and somewhat to my surprise the headline division was IMCA mods. I wasn't disappointed by that being the case, just kind of surprised. It was a stand alone event, too. No support classes.

    I've also attended several events in Southern California (3 Oval Nationals, 1 Turkey Night Grand Prix and a regular show at Ventura) and Ventura is the only place that had mods and they were one of the support classes. They seemed to be a bit of a different animal than the mods we're used to seeing here in the Midwest.

    Is the reason they are the top division in the upper Midwest because there are not enough willing owners of dirt late models and sprint cars to make it feasible for tracks to host them on a regular basis? Gotta' be some reason and you seem to have a handle on the racing scene up there.
    I think the purse money is pretty much the same as it would be in IL, OH, or wherever else for the Mods (that being anything from $400-$500 to win up to $700-$800 at some tracks, usually always around $100 to start for A Mods/IMCA Mods too). From my college in ND I had easy access to about 15 tracks.

    River Cities Speedway - 410 Sprints/Late Models top division (B-Mods also race here)
    Devils Lake Speedway - B-Mods top division
    Geographical Center Speedway - B-Mods top division
    Thunder Mountain Speedway - B-Mods top division
    Jamestown Speedway - Was A-Mods now IMCA Mods top division
    Red River Co-Op Speedway - A-Mods
    Nodak Speedway - IMCA Mods
    Dacotah Speedway - IMCA Mods
    Southwest Speedway - IMCA Mods
    Norman County Speedway - IMCA Mods
    Buffalo River Raceway - IMCA Mods
    Williston Basin Speedway - IMCA Mods
    Mclean County Speedway - B-Mods
    Sheyenne River Speedway - B-Mods
    Viking Speedway - Late Models

    I think as far as racing goes they might not be as fast as sprints or late models but people get used to watching the mod racing and then can be disappointed when they see sprints or late models and it ends up being single file or what not. I think the small tires on the mods makes them somewhat racy on any track surface. They are certainly slower but it wasn't uncommon to see them run 3-4 wide weekly where as it is only the best weeks here in Central PA when I get to see a race on a track with SLMs going 3 wide regularly. I think it can be beneficial, as in Central PA where I live the best drivers tend to continue moving up (to SLM, 410s, etc) but back in ND there is nothing for them to move up to in most areas so you have very skilled drivers (who would be running SLM or 410 if they lived elsewhere) running Mods, and so the driver quality is still great. Plus it always looks good when you get 40-50 cars weekly in your top division and some of those Western ND tracks regularly got that.

    I think in the IL/OH/IN area it is UMP Mods.
    In OH/WV it is AMRA Mods
    In WI/MO/KS/MN/Parts of IA it is USRA Mods
    In WI/MN/ND/SD/MT/Canada it is Wissota Mods
    In IA and pretty much everything West of there it is all IMCA including up in California and all the West coast states. IMCA is starting to expand Eastward too with a bunch of tracks in ND and MN going that direction recently.

    I don't expect Late Models or Sprints to take off there any more than I expect Mods to take over here in Sprint country. I think people get used to what they have and are not open to change. There are probably some owners out there with the money to finance big time SLM or 410 operations if they were around there but I think most are just content with the Mods. The LM and 410s are a touring division out that way for the most part and it seems to work out alright.

    Thanks,
    Jeff.
    Last edited by W2Racing09; 08-28-2016 at 01:23 PM.

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    Mike long won 2500 this weekend alone and no more than 3 hours from home

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    Quote Originally Posted by W2Racing09 View Post
    I think the purse money is pretty much the same as it would be in IL, OH, or wherever else for the Mods (that being anything from $400-$500 to win up to $700-$800 at some tracks, usually always around $100 to start for A Mods/IMCA Mods too). From my college in ND I had easy access to about 15 tracks.

    River Cities Speedway - 410 Sprints/Late Models top division (B-Mods also race here)
    Devils Lake Speedway - B-Mods top division
    Geographical Center Speedway - B-Mods top division
    Thunder Mountain Speedway - B-Mods top division
    Jamestown Speedway - Was A-Mods now IMCA Mods top division
    Red River Co-Op Speedway - A-Mods
    Nodak Speedway - IMCA Mods
    Dacotah Speedway - IMCA Mods
    Southwest Speedway - IMCA Mods
    Norman County Speedway - IMCA Mods
    Buffalo River Raceway - IMCA Mods
    Williston Basin Speedway - IMCA Mods
    Mclean County Speedway - B-Mods
    Sheyenne River Speedway - B-Mods
    Viking Speedway - Late Models

    I think as far as racing goes they might not be as fast as sprints or late models but people get used to watching the mod racing and then can be disappointed when they see sprints or late models and it ends up being single file or what not. I think the small tires on the mods makes them somewhat racy on any track surface. They are certainly slower but it wasn't uncommon to see them run 3-4 wide weekly where as it is only the best weeks here in Central PA when I get to see a race on a track with SLMs going 3 wide regularly. I think it can be beneficial, as in Central PA where I live the best drivers tend to continue moving up (to SLM, 410s, etc) but back in ND there is nothing for them to move up to in most areas so you have very skilled drivers (who would be running SLM or 410 if they lived elsewhere) running Mods, and so the driver quality is still great. Plus it always looks good when you get 40-50 cars weekly in your top division and some of those Western ND tracks regularly got that.

    I think in the IL/OH/IN area it is UMP Mods.
    In OH/WV it is AMRA Mods
    In WI/MO/KS/MN/Parts of IA it is USRA Mods
    In WI/MN/ND/SD/MT/Canada it is Wissota Mods
    In IA and pretty much everything West of there it is all IMCA including up in California and all the West coast states. IMCA is starting to expand Eastward too with a bunch of tracks in ND and MN going that direction recently.

    I don't expect Late Models or Sprints to take off there any more than I expect Mods to take over here in Sprint country. I think people get used to what they have and are not open to change. There are probably some owners out there with the money to finance big time SLM or 410 operations if they were around there but I think most are just content with the Mods. The LM and 410s are a touring division out that way for the most part and it seems to work out alright.

    Thanks,
    Jeff.
    Jeff, I appreciate all the info and clarification. You mentioned how IMCA is the predominant mod sanction West of the Mississippi River. When Ventura Raceway broadcast their races on internet PPV we watched nearly every Saturday night for a couple of seasons and periodically the IMCA mods were the support class to the wingless sprint cars. The mods that we saw occasionally at Ventura seemed to be a whole different animal from what we see in Illinois and Indiana.

    Your example of the mod's putting on great shows in spite of not being nearly as fast as some other types of racecars is a good one. I'm a firm believer in the theory that the fastest cars don't necessarily put on the best show. A very good example of that is the NASCAR trucks at Eldora. I've been to several Kings Royal's and Historical Big One's at Big E along with around 22 or 23 World Hundreds and there have been as many not so good races as good ones among all those. Everyone knows the sprint cars and dirt late models are far faster than the trucks but the trucks seem to consistently put on a great show at Eldora.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stewart fan View Post
    Tait Davenport has a Longhorn modified.
    betcha he would rather have a longshot what do think

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    Mods took over in the midwest because racers where no longer willing spend a ridiculous amount of money on a hobby. Most teams are self funded here, IMCA and Wissota have done what they can to keep costs down. Promoters here can also be held responsible as they do not wish to pay out a majority of their purse to the smallest field of cars. Unfortunately the mod thing here has gotten out of hand, too, and entries in the mod fields are quickly dwindling,too.

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    So you have a 40 k to win mod and 20k to win b mod

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    Quote Originally Posted by old fan View Post
    So you have a 40 k to win mod and 20k to win b mod
    So what's your point, it has no effect on weekly racing. Several years ago a promoter tried to run a series of 5 n 10K late model show. The series was killed by weather, car counts, and attendances. Promoting is a risk. They are having a 40 K mod show, they have a 100 entries, there should be 200, but mod rules are more screwed up than late models.

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    it sure does it take away racers that normally would be racing at their home track weekend seems funny late on in the year united money pit will have a 3 day show for mods 3 k 4k and 5 k and get 80 mods the big problem with mod is the rules are not even close from one sanction to another crates work great with some sanctions others not even close

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    , !,?,.. Use them, it's the old can you help Uncle Jack off the horse thought . I have no idea what you're talking about most of the time.

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    mod drivers and teams have no business traveling out of their region but I DO LIKE 80 MODS FOR 3 K TO WIN AND 50 LATE FOR 2K TO WIN UMP STYLE

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