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    Quote Originally Posted by mudmaker View Post
    Looks like lots of arm chair lawyers here.
    How about this... WRG file a temporary injunction banning said drivers from competing in any UMP or WOO event until said case is settled. Such cases can and probably will drag on for years.
    Now basically there are WOO, UMP, Lucas, and open events to choose from at that level. Let's take away half of the events until the lawyers have decided they have enough of everyone's money and come to a resolution.
    I think win or lose, they will still lose. And remember, can't sue for costs involving a civil suit. And then there's the enivitable counter suits for each plaintiff. You really think Smoke is going to take this sitting down? I doubt it. I would say he might have the clout to squash some things here.
    It will never help the sport of racing.
    Cant band the driver you have too let them race.. Till the court here the Case.. THATS the LAW
    You can band them only if you win the case....and then they can appeal and you have too let them race till thats over....
    Last edited by Cardirt0; 08-28-2016 at 02:51 PM.

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    the track don't have to do any thing they raise to much crap he can say you are gone for life

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    Quote Originally Posted by old fan View Post
    the track don't have to do any thing they raise to much crap he can say you are gone for life
    Then the driver can Sue and they have too let him race till it gos too court...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudmaker View Post
    Looks like lots of arm chair lawyers here. How about this... WRG file a temporary injunction banning said drivers from competing in any UMP or WOO event until said case is settled. Such cases can and probably will drag on for years. Now basically there are WOO, UMP, Lucas, and open events to choose from at that level. Let's take away half of the events until the lawyers have decided they have enough of everyone's money and come to a resolution. I think win or lose, they will still lose. And remember, can't sue for costs involving a civil suit. And then there's the enivitable counter suits for each plaintiff. You really think Smoke is going to take this sitting down? I doubt it. I would say he might have the clout to squash some things here. It will never help the sport of racing.
    I don't think WRG can file anything becuase if the drivers win the lawsuit then the Drivers did nothing wrong. Also I hope Old fan can make the hearing so he can shout its in the rules and hold up his rule book ....

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    read Eldora rules they ccan refuse anybody including you are me for what ever reason its private property

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    Quote Originally Posted by KAOS View Post
    I don't think WRG can file anything becuase if the drivers win the lawsuit then the Drivers did nothing wrong. Also I hope Old fan can make the hearing so he can shout its in the rules and hold up his rule book ....
    Cardirt0 should also be there, he seems to know everything.....lol

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    thats not as simple as you are making it seem....you cant just throw someone out of a business with out a cause.

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    its private property they can escort anybody or refuse them from performing there they are not employees there they are sub contractors

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    You must forgive me if I don't believe there's a law saying they can't ban them from racing. It's a civil suit. Anything can happen.
    And as old fan stated, they have the right to refuse service to anyone.
    And in the end it may lead to added expenses and services just to make sure the racers are following the rules like they already should, thus costing more to those willing to put on races and in turn those extra expenses will be passed on to you, the consumer. That will promote more ill will and attendance will recede and decline of the sport will eventually be the result.

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    The management reserves the right to suspend, disqualify, bar, and/or fine (with payment as a condition of further competition) any participants who, in their discretion, are engaged in misconduct, and whose presence or conduct is deemed not to be in the best interest of Eldora Speedway. The duration and severity of any such action shall be determined solely by the management

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardirt0 View Post
    Not what the law says, If you do not pay because of wate when the scales are Certified they have too be Right....
    The laws are written for commerce. I think you and they are taking quite a leap of interpretation.
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    They can bar scott in the future and I don't think it would bother him. In every interview scott has given recently he's hinted that he will probably hang it up in a couple years anyway.

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    Eldora Speedway is private property. The management reserves the right to refuse entry to any individual(s) and/or vehicle(s) onto the property and further reserves the right to eject any individual(s) and/or vehicle(s) from the premises at any time, if in their discretion, determines their presence or conduct is not in the best interest of Eldora Speedway you don't think lawyers were involved

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    As a business owner I can refuse to do work for anyone. As a promotion company, WRG can refuse to have anyone represent them in exchange for monies that may put them in a negative light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old fan View Post
    Eldora Speedway is private property. The management reserves the right to refuse entry to any individual(s) and/or vehicle(s) onto the property and further reserves the right to eject any individual(s) and/or vehicle(s) from the premises at any time, if in their discretion, determines their presence or conduct is not in the best interest of Eldora Speedway you don't think lawyers were involved
    Old Fan's computer is getting a work out today. How does google know what he is trying to search for though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptown View Post
    Cardirt0 should also be there, he seems to know everything.....lol
    Gary Flesner Vs state of Minnesota 1989 wanted a liq. l for my bar they city of Ely said no .. even after I past all the thing i need too.. So i sued at first i lost .. Then i sued for the right to happiness by the Constitution.. A big law firm was so impressed with my suit .. They helped probono and I won...I have 6 boxs of files from that case just from what i did... Thing is after I won there was no living in the town.. So my place was worth 125000 bucks be for I won after with were you could sell beer 350000 bucks so I sold it 325000 bucks and fliped them off as i left town....Law is easy you use comen Cents and you can win....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
    Eldora is not buying and selling commodities. The scale is a simple tool to enforce their rules. I guess you think the tape measures that they use on deck height better be calibrated to a NIST standard as well?
    Well finally, after 50 posts, someone gets it. Well done MasterSbilt Racer.

    Trust me, if the Eldora scales fell under the Department of Weights and Measure, they would be inspected annually. It's not like you call them up and make a appointment, they'll find you. Stickers have a expiration date and the State knows when it is. They show up generally before that date. (unless you're from Illinois)

    When it comes down to it, the Ohio Dept. of W&M could care less about Tony's scales.
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    Quote Originally Posted by old fan View Post
    its private property they can escort anybody or refuse them from performing there they are not employees there they are sub contractors
    Tell that to the baker who refused to bake a cake for a gay couple!

    How did that work out?......Based on our laws that's DISCRIMINATION!
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    Though I add this City of Ely spent 175000 bucks too keep me from selling drinks and beer.. 1000 bucks for that right a year 1/2 gos too the state .. that means 350 years they will break even on me LOL

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