Why Aren't the Drivers Also Suing the Tire Suppliers?

**Fast Wheels** · 09-02-2016, 12:44 PM

If the samples came back bad, it is also possible that they were not supplied the correct tire.

But they aren't going to ruin their tire deals are they??????????

Hopefully the Eldora/WRG will find basis to countersue and this will be a costly venture also for the ones that cannot follow the rules! It will not be evidence in court, but Bloomquist is infamous for pushing the limits and has been caught cheating on tires before! Only in American can the criminal sue the enforcer!

**onlyfacts** · 09-02-2016, 01:40 PM

None of this makes sense.... Ok they say the lab is wrong well UMP can only go off the results that the lab provides. So if the lab says the tires were bad then Ump, WRG or Eldora can only go off of those results.... I think if I was going to sue it would be the lab if I thought the results were wrong. But this whole suit looks like greed from a group that don't care about the sport... If you are going to sue you should think about who you need to sue and who you shouldn't because in this case the wrong people are being sued based on the facts of the case.

**Fast Wheels** · 09-02-2016, 01:47 PM

Exactly right! It is greed! These drivers that have hurt the sport by choosing to make a living off of it, while running the costs up for everyone else, don't have a retirement plan because they have no other skills outside of racing! Everyone agrees $16 million is a ridiculous amount. Seems like they are trying to fill their bank account and nothing else. This is BAD for racing. They don't care about the sport. Only their own pockets and egos. Tracks/Officials/Series will be afraid to do their job enforcing rules over getting sued. Even though this lawsuit is bogus, it is going to cost the defendants money and stress! How many good people will we lose out of racing because of fear of getting sued by weasels like this?!

**Enigma41** · 09-02-2016, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by Fast Wheels

If the samples came back bad, it is also possible that they were not supplied the correct tire.

But they aren't going to ruin their tire deals are they??????????

Hopefully the Eldora/WRG will find basis to countersue and this will be a costly venture also for the ones that cannot follow the rules! It will not be evidence in court, but Bloomquist is infamous for pushing the limits and has been caught cheating on tires before! Only in American can the criminal sue the enforcer!

In America your innocent until proven guilty, "In A Court of Law". Comrade.

**Josh Bayko** · 09-02-2016, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by Enigma41

In America your innocent until proven guilty, "In A Court of Law". Comrade.

It's. Not. A. Criminal. Trial.

**a25rjr** · 09-02-2016, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by Josh Bayko

It's. Not. A. Criminal. Trial.

But it may turnout to be one!

**onlyfacts** · 09-02-2016, 02:04 PM

Remember this suit is filed on the fact that these 5 drivers feel like the results were wrong and their names have been tarnished... Whom ever did the lab results would be the person or persons that they should be suing. UMP and Eldora was only doing the right thing by going by the rule book and upholding the rules. These guys are wrong. And now we (race fans) are going to pay the consequences.

**Josh Bayko** · 09-02-2016, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by a25rjr

But it may turnout to be one!

No, it won't.

**a25rjr** · 09-02-2016, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by onlyfacts

Remember this suit is filed on the fact that these 5 drivers feel like the results were wrong and their names have been tarnished... Whom ever did the lab results would be the person or persons that they should be suing. UMP and Eldora was only doing the right thing by going by the rule book and upholding the rules. These guys are wrong. And now we (race fans) are going to pay the consequences.

Why are they wrong? A racer is supposed to guess as to how much extra lead he has to bolt on his racecar. Then he has to guess are the scales 37lbs lite or 61lbs. Its been proven they were way off....that's a slam dunk there!

Just like when Dale Sr died, many predicted the doom of racing. This lawsuit will clear up some rules and regulations and that will be better for all involved!

**onlyfacts** · 09-02-2016, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by Josh Bayko

No, it won't.

Before it's over it could be criminal... But not the direction most assume.

**MasterSbilt_Racer** · 09-02-2016, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by a25rjr

Why are they wrong? A racer is supposed to guess as to how much extra lead he has to bolt on his racecar. Then he has to guess are the scales 37lbs lite or 61lbs. Its been proven they were way off....that's a slam dunk there!

Just like when Dale Sr died, many predicted the doom of racing. This lawsuit will clear up some rules and regulations and that will be better for all involved!

Roll on the scales at the beginning of the event. Now you know! Been that way for decades! A good scale is allowed to vary at least 1%.

**a25rjr** · 09-02-2016, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by MasterSbilt_Racer

Roll on the scales at the beginning of the event. Now you know! Been that way for decades! A good scale is allowed to vary at least 1%.

No its not....depends on state laws!

**taylor2727** · 09-02-2016, 04:25 PM

When you sign in you are signing that they are the authorities and what ever there discretion is on particular rule is the final decision so wouldn't you be signing an agreement saying the scales they use are the final judge ? And also scott crossed scales multiple times that weekend and was never light any other time

**over4T** · 09-02-2016, 06:49 PM

One of the top tracks in NorCal that we run regularly was having problems with inconsistency on the weights their scales were showing in the middle of the season. The guy that runs the scales put a lot of time and his own money in trying to fix it. When the track wouldn't or couldn't do what was necessary to fix the problem they simply said no weigh tonight for the last 2 or 3 weeks of the regular season. I didn't notice a bit of difference in the results...same guys won and same guys lost.

**MasterSbilt_Racer** · 09-02-2016, 11:59 PM

Originally Posted by a25rjr

No its not....depends on state laws!

Dude! You can't ask for more than that from much smaller, precise force measurement systems.

**Birky15Bfan** · 09-03-2016, 08:55 AM

How many years do you have to file a lawsuit? Because if Bloomer wins this lawsuit then shouldn't Shannon Babb have a case when he was 10 lbs. light?

**calverton** · 09-03-2016, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by Enigma41

In America your innocent until proven guilty, "In A Court of Law". Comrade.

some have been guilty before just sayng

**Bubstr** · 09-03-2016, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by Birky15Bfan

How many years do you have to file a lawsuit? Because if Bloomer wins this lawsuit then shouldn't Shannon Babb have a case when he was 10 lbs. light?

Not sure about statute of limitations, but Babb isn't a weasel that blames everyone else for his mistakes. It's called Moral fortitude, how you behave, stand up man, doing what's right ect. Babb may have lost that race because of 7 pounds, but everyone respects him and even has a certain amount of sympathy for him. When Feger got caught ith a illegal tire, he took the penalty and didn't sue. He was a stand up guy and people respect him for it. What is going to happen to these 5 that blame it on anyone else to weasel out? How is that public opinion, that they are so worried about, going to treat them?

**dirtdobber45** · 09-03-2016, 10:31 AM

Theyre trying to clear their name. I dont see BShepp and maybe Saterlee being cheaters. And itll be up to WRG and the others named in the suit to take legal action on Hoosier if it doesnt go their way. I still dont understand why those results are not out for the public to see