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    Really though. Does it matter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zach51 View Post
    I will never deny that Richards isn't dang good, he is one of the best right now, but nobody is better than Bloomer right now. And again I'm not a fan of his, but I'm a fan of the truth, and that's the truth.This is just my opinion, but if we want to compare series, I'd say WOO is closer to MARS than it is to Lucas.
    Really Mars has Jackson stovall McCormick and that's it and they all get spanked by a Ump driver

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    Quote Originally Posted by MI Dirt Fan View Post
    Really though. Does it matter?
    Totally agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetwind View Post
    woo have been around since before 1987 are car ran in a race in enith ok. 87 moyer was there and it was around before that not sure how long or how many races in the deal
    Then they were dormant till the Dirty Dozen. Which, when they first came back, man what a class of cars.
    Up in the air who my next “favorite” driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normal”.

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    Old Fan, I apologize I should have been more clear and produced a diagram. I am not saying MARS is as good as the WOO, if you go back and read, I'm saying the gap between the WOO and MARS is more narrow than the gap between the WOO and Lucas. WOO has Richards and Clanton, had Shirley. WOO missed out on Colton Flinner, he is their target market lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zach51 View Post
    I will never deny that Richards isn't dang good, he is one of the best right now, but nobody is better than Bloomer right now. And again I'm not a fan of his, but I'm a fan of the truth, and that's the truth.

    This is just my opinion, but if we want to compare series, I'd say WOO is closer to MARS than it is to Lucas.
    You must legitimately be high right now if you believe that WoO and MARS talent level are even remotely similar.

    If Eric Wells or Frank Heckenast ran the entire MARS series they would be right there challenging for the championship with Tony Jackson.. probably even leading over him -- and they are tied for 9th in the WoO.

    The LOLMDS and WoO obviously are not equal in terms of talent right now but that statement has got to be one of the most blatantly ignorant posts I've read on here in a very, very long time.

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    Last edited by W2Racing09; 09-09-2016 at 12:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zach51 View Post
    Old Fan, I apologize I should have been more clear and produced a diagram. I am not saying MARS is as good as the WOO, if you go back and read, I'm saying the gap between the WOO and MARS is more narrow than the gap between the WOO and Lucas. WOO has Richards and Clanton, had Shirley. WOO missed out on Colton Flinner, he is their target market lol.
    I don't even understand how the brain that came up with this post is able to understand how to turn on a computer and touch the corresponding keys to create words.

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    W2racing, How big a track is Dog Hollow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by toast View Post
    W2racing, How big a track is Dog Hollow?
    Probably like 3/8 or 4/10. Just under a half mile I think but it seems smaller when you are watching racing there.

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    After watching and keeping up with races for over 40 years, I still learn about race tracks, Thanks! Missing the World this year after 11 straight years, My Diabetics is taking over!

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    Quote Originally Posted by toast View Post
    After watching and keeping up with races for over 40 years, I still learn about race tracks, Thanks! Missing the World this year after 11 straight years, My Diabetics is taking over!
    Sorry to hear that. Yeah, it is a great sport to be a fan of. There is always a new track or new type of car to check out and learn about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by W2Racing09 View Post
    You must legitimately be high right now if you believe that WoO and MARS talent level are even remotely similar.

    If Eric Wells or Frank Heckenast ran the entire MARS series they would be right there challenging for the championship with Tony Jackson.. probably even leading over him -- and they are tied for 9th in the WoO.

    The LOLMDS and WoO obviously are not equal in terms of talent right now but that statement has got to be one of the most blatantly ignorant posts I've read on here in a very, very long time.

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    Speculative conjecture..........great.
    Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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    And the heck with the woo or Lucas guys........lets talk about all these weekenders that won't be at eldora because of tire costs.....all the ones that will no longer be a factor or even be able to race eldora type tracks anymore?

    You know, like all those weekenders that showed all the touring guys last night just how much more level the field is with series issued rubber.

    Any of the sky is falling crowd want to talk about how far their heart sank in their chests listening and watching last night??
    Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbecueboy View Post
    And the heck with the woo or Lucas guys........lets talk about all these weekenders that won't be at eldora because of tire costs.....all the ones that will no longer be a factor or even be able to race eldora type tracks anymore?

    You know, like all those weekenders that showed all the touring guys last night just how much more level the field is with series issued rubber.

    Any of the sky is falling crowd want to talk about how far their heart sank in their chests listening and watching last night??
    What?

    First: When did I say the weekend guys wouldn't be at Eldora, I've been one of the people who said the grooving and siping rule is good.

    Second: I don't see any mention of series issued rubber, just mandating no grooving and siping and and what compounds could or couldn't be used.

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    W2, that's fine if you feel that way. I'm not high, but you are entitled to your opinion. And for the record, there is a difference in being in the running at the top of the points just because you run all the races from being in the points because you run good. But like Old Fan, you missed the point. I never said MARS was as good as WOO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zach51 View Post
    W2, that's fine if you feel that way. I'm not high, but you are entitled to your opinion. And for the record, there is a difference in being in the running at the top of the points just because you run all the races from being in the points because you run good. But like Old Fan, you missed the point. I never said MARS was as good as WOO.
    I didn't miss the point, I fully understood what you said -- and it is still ridiculous.

    How did you come to such a conclusion? Is there any data supporting your claim besides your bias against the WoO series and its drivers?

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    Just as much data as you have claiming that I am wrong....

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    I have no bias against WOO, I have biased towards the truth.

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    All I seen was JD go bye Josh like he was on a treadmill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by W2Racing09 View Post
    What?

    First: When did I say the weekend guys wouldn't be at Eldora, I've been one of the people who said the grooving and siping rule is good.

    Second: I don't see any mention of series issued rubber, just mandating no grooving and siping and and what compounds could or couldn't be used.
    Question wasn't just for you Jeff.....but since you chimed in.

    In almost every single one of your posts in the " other threads" you screamed how the little guys would no longer be able to afford buying sets of new tires for these big touring events when they come to town.....and how these car counts for said events were going to be cut drastically.....and I believe you even went as far as saying that we should all get used to just seeing mostly the touring guys only at these big events.

    So don't start backpeddaling now chief........own it.


    if mandating fresh uncut unsiped tires produces racing like we saw last night, then I would say you chicken little guys may as well cut and run while you can.......the stampede of thrilled fans are about to trample you underfoot.
    Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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