Ump

[rickybrown1952]

Supposedly a track in Illinois has been told by ump that they are not allowed to run a lucus oil show and if they do they will loose their ump sanction and the summer natlonals totally rediculouis way too much control over a track and what they can and cannot do

[cjp0354]

Tri City and Macon runs both UMP and Lucas. Correct?

[bleedblue55]

Isn't UMP part of the WRG World of Outlaws group. Tyler County Speedway ran their usual WOO late model show over Memorial Day and had Lucas Oil there over Labor Day for the Hillbilly. Pretty sure both sanctions will be back at the Bullring next year.

[dirt FANatic 11]

According to the Facebook post, UMP told the new track that all other tracks were "Grandfathered in". Thats why Macon and Tri-City can run Lucas.

Total BS. This is why tracks have to close. UMP dictates what the track can and can not do to promote their business.

[calverton]

Supposedly a track in Illinois has been told by ump that they are not allowed to run a lucus oil show and if they do they will loose their ump sanction and the summer natlonals totally rediculouis way too much control over a track and what they can and cannot do

the track in question doesn't run run late models on a weekly basis might have something to do with it , does a track really need woo or lucas at their track to survive tri city speedway biggest money weekend is mod mania in september

[calverton]

According to the Facebook post, UMP told the new track that all other tracks were "Grandfathered in". Thats why Macon and Tri-City can run Lucas. Total BS. This is why tracks have to close. UMP dictates what the track can and can not do to promote their business.

try getting a summer nationals race at lucas oil speedway

[calverton]

you never see a lucas show at Eldora either they don't need to

[MI Dirt Fan]

Old fag, I mean Calverton. You obviously haven't learned your lesson yet. This must be like internet porn to you.

[dirt FANatic 11]

calverton, do either of those tracks want one of those races? (does Lucas Oil Speedway want a SN, or does Eldora want a Lucas Series race?) so what is your point?

Those 2 tracks are gems and can stand on their own. Eldora could go unsanctioned for both the Deam & World, and they would still get the same amount of cars

[cjp0354]

Can we please just say what track it is, instead of hiding that detail. I think if its true that's a bunch of BS.

[dirt FANatic 11]

Fayette County Speedway in Illinois

[HoosierDirtFan]

Supposedly a track in Illinois has been told by ump that they are not allowed to run a lucus oil show and if they do they will loose their ump sanction and the summer natlonals totally rediculouis way too much control over a track and what they can and cannot do

The track was Fayette County Speedway. Saw the post by the promoter on their Facebook page last night.

[LMMS24]

I believe Spoon River Speedway was told the same thing last year.

[W2Racing09]

I don't really think it hurts UMP to allow a LOLMDS show at a UMP track. I just quickly glanced at the LOLMDS schedule and picked out 11 that I think are at UMP sanctioned tracks. With the addition of FCS that would be 12. I somehow doubt the WoO LM wants to add 12 races to their already huge schedule. You are basically telling a track that they are not allowed to have a big race at their track. Either they give them a WoO LM date or they let them run LOLMDS it is BS to do it any other way. I would think it would be cool for the fans to see both sets of drivers at the track in the same season, most of the drivers on LOLMDS run UMP races a ton during the season too so its not like it does not support them.

I understand it is business and all but both tours seem to work together a little bit, I don't see why they need to worsen relations its only bad for the sport. (and obviously this time UMP is the aggressor)

[427c.i.]

I was told a rumor a few years ago that FALS was told the same thing when they wanted to book a Lucas show.
Like I said, rumor but it does sound like the same story FCS is being told.

Too bad, I guess the WRG is afraid of the competition.

[ptown]

Lucas has better quality of cars but they do nothing about the tire cheaters, maybe that's why WOO is taking that stand.

[dirt FANatic 11]

"427c.i.
I was told a rumor a few years ago that FALS was told the same thing when they wanted to book a Lucas show.
Like I said, rumor but it does sound like the same story FCS is being told.

Too bad, I guess the WRG is afraid of the competition."

I heard FALS was days away from signing with Lucas to make the PDC a Lucas event, and UMP/WRG came in last minute and made them make it a WoO race or they would lose UMP Sanction. - This came from one of the Lucas Oil Series directors

[ptown]

"427c.i.
I was told a rumor a few years ago that FALS was told the same thing when they wanted to book a Lucas show.
Like I said, rumor but it does sound like the same story FCS is being told.

Too bad, I guess the WRG is afraid of the competition."

I heard FALS was days away from signing with Lucas to make the PDC a Lucas event, and UMP/WRG came in last minute and made them make it a WoO race or they would loose UMP Sanction. - This came from one of the Lucas Oil Series directors

If Fairbury wanted to have a Lucas show they would, WOO don't want to mess with Fairbury and the PDC, one of their most successful races.

[slingindirt83]

I was told the same thing from a very reliable source from FALS. There is a date that if you had a lucas race before it you were grandfathered in.

[Barbecueboy]

Lucas has better quality of cars but they do nothing about the tire cheaters, maybe that's why WOO is taking that stand.

If what you say is true why would woo care if Lucas wants to besmirch their reputation as a series......seems like they would encourage it to gain a much needed advantage.


And if all of what has been discussed in this thread is remotely true, it's a clear sign that from woo standpoint, desperate times call for desperate measures.