Thread: Ump

**GEAR_HEAD** · 10-20-2016, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by calverton

The track in question couldn't handle a woo show or a lucas show not enough stands plus it has in past ran very very late shows like 4 am shows

They're putting in more stands and they ran a fine show when I was there. But those points aren't relative to this conversation.

**Cardirt0** · 10-20-2016, 11:34 PM

Farmercity was told that they would lose UMP if they ran a Lucas race when they just got UMP back....

**Bubstr** · 10-21-2016, 12:20 AM

Sounds to me, that this track wants the advantages of being a UMP track and not do anything for it. There is no free lunch. The bad part is, in this area, if your not a UMP track, you don't have enough cars to run LM programs.There are more Late Models around, but they run for UMP points fund.

**GEAR_HEAD** · 10-21-2016, 12:42 AM

Originally Posted by Bubstr

Sounds to me, that this track wants the advantages of being a UMP track and not do anything for it. There is no free lunch. The bad part is, in this area, if your not a UMP track, you don't have enough cars to run LM programs.There are more Late Models around, but they run for UMP points fund.

I'm sure they pay a fee for UMP sanctioning. That's all they have to do for it.

**Bubstr** · 10-21-2016, 01:12 AM

Originally Posted by GEAR_HEAD

I'm sure they pay a fee for UMP sanctioning. That's all they have to do for it.

Really? See how that works for them.

**calverton** · 10-21-2016, 07:10 AM

the track in question doesn't run late models weekly though

**chopter** · 10-21-2016, 04:37 PM

I'd tell them I'm ump when I'm having ump sanctioned races. What I do otherwise isn't any of your business.

**calverton** · 10-21-2016, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by Bubstr

Sounds to me, that this track wants the advantages of being a UMP track and not do anything for it. There is no free lunch. The bad part is, in this area, if your not a UMP track, you don't have enough cars to run LM programs.There are more Late Models around, but they run for UMP points fund.

what ever happened to route 45 speedway think about that one

**calverton** · 10-21-2016, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by chopter

I'd tell them I'm ump when I'm having ump sanctioned races. What I do otherwise isn't any of your business.

sorry it don't work that way but nice try

**chopter** · 10-21-2016, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by calverton

sorry it don't work that way but nice try

It does work that way. Deals are made all the time. It's the way the world works.

**calverton** · 10-21-2016, 08:30 PM

I would say the sanctioning body has the upper hand don't you think look at route 45 changed sanctions and went belly up

**Barbecueboy** · 10-23-2016, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by calverton

sorry it don't work that way but nice try

What way, extortion?

**calverton** · 10-23-2016, 12:05 PM

read post 51

**Bubstr** · 10-23-2016, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by Barbecueboy

What way, extortion?

You could very well call it extortion. It's been going on since the mid 40s with sanctioning groups and tracks or even racers. Look at the old AAA. If they scheduled a race anywhere, a driver would forfeit his points for the year if he raced anywhere else. I believe there was a stock car road race in Mexico once and several drivers raced champ cars or sprints that week end and lost their point money. USAC had similar rules. Looking at it from the other side, Sanctioning bodies need their tracks and drivers to cooperate in order to provide the product they offered. It's give and take, covered by contract law.