Lucas rules

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

I would expect more funny, easily-circumvented rules to come from this. Especially if you believe in the weight advantage and have tens of thousands to burn.

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

There wont be much rule change. That was only to get control of the #6 car. There will be another rule change when the NEW SHERRIFF gets a hold of the #0 car.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

There wont be much rule change. That was only to get control of the #6 car. There will be another rule change when the NEW SHERRIFF gets a hold of the #0 car.

Don't be so sure. Lr unsprung weight is the new boogyman like traction control was 15 years ago.

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

Don't be so sure. Lr unsprung weight is the new boogyman like traction control was 15 years ago.

I heard there doing something w rear axle tube or something to that effect.

[Stede Bonnet]

Don't be so sure. Lr unsprung weight is the new boogyman like traction control was 15 years ago.

Why do they keep insisting on chasing the Boogey-man? He doesn't exist and the rule book is getting fat & stupid while they grope around in the dark trying to grab him... "MARCO!"

[Barbecueboy]

Why do they keep insisting on chasing the Boogey-man? He doesn't exist and the rule book is getting fat & stupid while they grope around in the dark trying to grab him... "MARCO!"

The boogie man checks for chuck Norris under his bed before going to sleep every night.....just sayin.

[zyoung25]

I heard there doing something w rear axle tube or something to that effect.

Ever think of having a axle tube made of tungsten carbide?

[Stede Bonnet]

Ever think of having a axle tube made of tungsten carbide?

I'm sure someone has but it seems to me it would be a waste of money when you could achieve the same effect with bolt on weight. It'd be a helluva lot easier to move the weight around for different track conditions bolted on instead of forged into an axle tube... Once again, why bother making a rule on this when a cheaper equivalent solution is available? The heavy axles and the wheel spacers I understand better than bothering with an exotic axle tube, because they are easy to swap out for dampening engine torque in the slick.

[Ryan21mid]

Aren't ISP seats full containment? If so they're legal..If not bolt on a $200 kit and go race.

[MittenMadman]

Aren't ISP seats full containment? If so they're legal..If not bolt on a $200 kit and go race.

Yes they are. We were told that we might not be legal and have to send it back down to have it SFI rated...

[W2Racing09]

Yes they are. We were told that we might not be legal and have to send it back down to have it SFI rated...

Was that before they announced that they had relaxed the SFI Requirements for this season? As I understood it was only needing to be full containment.

The drivers you are saying don't have $40k cars, are they not SLM? I don't often see All Alumnimum motors selling for under $20k, and a nice roller newer than 2013 is probably going to cost in the area of $20k as well all said and done. I don't think the $40k number is that ridiculous ($100k which is what some of the National guys are spending on the other hand...). I do know that there are a lot of guys running in less than a $40k car too, its not ideal and I think after the changes they made the rules make more sense. I don't think going from no rules one season, to restrictive rules the next is necessarily the best way to do things and I'm glad they changed it.

Thanks,
Jeff.

[racerb12]

What do u think Lucas oil, drug checking your drivers for safety or bolting a wheel cover on.

[Stede Bonnet]

What do u think Lucas oil, drug checking your drivers for safety or bolting a wheel cover on.

I think the rule makers need to be drug tested. I'm NOT doing FC, period.

@W2 your assertion that if $40K is no biggie every year to an average team, whats another $10K for the new garb is in error. Most local teams don't buy a "New/Used" engine every season or a new/used car, they spent years accumulating and struggle to pay for rebuilds. IMHO, the roof line is too low and the c@ckpit is too confined to safely use FC seats in a DLM, especially for taller and/or larger drivers.

Once the concussions and neck injuries spike they'll make some other bonehead rule too. No thanks.

[zyoung25]

I'm sure someone has but it seems to me it would be a waste of money when you could achieve the same effect with bolt on weight. It'd be a helluva lot easier to move the weight around for different track conditions bolted on instead of forged into an axle tube... Once again, why bother making a rule on this when a cheaper equivalent solution is available? The heavy axles and the wheel spacers I understand better than bothering with an exotic axle tube, because they are easy to swap out for dampening engine torque in the slick.

Who's to say the axle tubes were the only thing made of this stuff? When these parts are made, they're always there. Not in the way, and no worries of them shifting. It makes sense to me.

[W2Racing09]

I think the rule makers need to be drug tested. I'm NOT doing FC, period.

@W2 your assertion that if $40K is no biggie every year to an average team, whats another $10K for the new garb is in error. Most local teams don't buy a "New/Used" engine every season or a new/used car, they spent years accumulating and struggle to pay for rebuilds. IMHO, the roof line is too low and the c@ckpit is too confined to safely use FC seats in a DLM, especially for taller and/or larger drivers.

Once the concussions and neck injuries spike they'll make some other bonehead rule too. No thanks.

Not sure where the $10k number is coming from.

Thanks,
Jeff.

[Highside Hustler25]

IMHO, the roof line is too low and the c@ckpit is too confined to safely use FC seats in a DLM, especially for taller and/or larger drivers.

Once the concussions and neck injuries spike they'll make some other bonehead rule too. No thanks.

This has been a complaint from numerous racers. I think the only solution is to raise the minimum roof height. I never did understand those tight confined c0ckpits.

[Krooser]

Anyone else notice how many fuel cells have popped up for sale in recent weeks on some of the FB pages and other places?

[chupp n bloomer fan]

What do u think Lucas oil, drug checking your drivers for safety or bolting a wheel cover on.

Apparently you've never seen one of them wheel covers fly off. What do you think a metal or heavy plastic wheel cover flying off a car does when it hits someone. It's a way bigger issue than the drug testing sh!t.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

I think the rule makers need to be drug tested. I'm NOT doing FC, period.

@W2 your assertion that if $40K is no biggie every year to an average team, whats another $10K for the new garb is in error. Most local teams don't buy a "New/Used" engine every season or a new/used car, they spent years accumulating and struggle to pay for rebuilds. IMHO, the roof line is too low and the c@ckpit is too confined to safely use FC seats in a DLM, especially for taller and/or larger drivers.

Once the concussions and neck injuries spike they'll make some other bonehead rule too. No thanks.

The whole issue is the c0ckpit/halo, not the seats. I've not heard any proof that the seats have caused the injuries, or death. Lack of trained safety personnel, lack of halo room, and lack of properly fitted/modern safety equipment, yes.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

The whole issue is the c0ckpit/halo, not the seats. I've not heard any proof that the seats have caused the injuries, or death. Lack of trained safety personnel, lack of halo room, and lack of properly fitted/modern safety equipment, yes.

There is actually little to no concrete evidence for any side of the argument. Head and neck injuries are on the rise. Why? Mods are still slower than lates of 10 years ago. There are injuries there too. Racers are way more concerned about going fast than being safe. Despite that, there is a lot of conventional wisdom concerning the suspension that is completely wrong. Go figure.