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    Anybody wanna take a guess what the actual track size is if you run the bottom around the tires? I'm gonna say 1/7 mile. Late models may hit 65mph at the end of the straight away. If you get a good spot, your the man in the catbird seat. Gonna be so tough to pass. I'm for once a fan of the cushion this week. If the top doesn't come to life and get some speed up there, I'm afraid it's gonna be a snoozer fellas. On a good note, were racing in the Midwest in the middle of December. The corners are over 60' wide so from a fan perspective we need a cushion to come to life. For all who is there and traveling there, be safe and enjoy. St Louis is a rough city so don't make the wrong turn. Lock all car doors and park your car where it's in the open. Boogidy boogidy boogidy, let's go racing boys!

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    Really should scratch the qualifying next time. Cap it at 75 entries in each class, pill draw for heats, start at 3 p.m. Farm the track every 3 or 4 races depending on how delays need to be scheduled for ventilation. Just those things alone will help this deal tremendously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centeroff View Post
    Anybody wanna take a guess what the actual track size is if you run the bottom around the tires? I'm gonna say 1/7 mile. Late models may hit 65mph at the end of the straight away. If you get a good spot, your the man in the catbird seat. Gonna be so tough to pass. I'm for once a fan of the cushion this week. If the top doesn't come to life and get some speed up there, I'm afraid it's gonna be a snoozer fellas. On a good note, were racing in the Midwest in the middle of December. The corners are over 60' wide so from a fan perspective we need a cushion to come to life. For all who is there and traveling there, be safe and enjoy. St Louis is a rough city so don't make the wrong turn. Lock all car doors and park your car where it's in the open. Boogidy boogidy boogidy, let's go racing boys!
    You're probably pretty close on the track size. They compared it to Macon but considering Lanigans fast time was only 4 tenths off Moyers Macon track record tells me something. Moyer ran around 10.2 on a high banked and tacky Macon track. Lanigan was only 4 tenths slower with literally no banking and a very lose surface. That tells me Gateway has to be somewhat shorter in distance.
    They got around pretty good in qualifying. 12 car heat races should be a sight to see.
    8/13/16

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    Thursday time trials (official)

    Driver (car no.), hometown, time
    1.Darrell Lanigan (29), Union, Ky., 10.687
    2.Scott Bloomquist (0), Mooresburg, Tenn., 10.889
    3.Casey Roberts (101), Toccoa, Ga., 10.905
    4.Tim Senic (S2), Elkins, W.Va., 10.923
    5.Billy Moyer Jr. (21jr), Batesville, Ark., 10.932
    6.Chris Simpson (32), Oxford, Iowa, 10.968
    7.Jacob Magee (10M), Caney, Kan., 10.992
    8.Kent Robinson (7r), Bloomington, Ind., 11.004
    9.Joey Coulter (49c), Miami Beach, Fla., 11.013
    10.Jesse Stovall (00), Billings, Mo., 11.035
    11.Chad Zobrist (78), Highland, Ill., 11.039
    12.Jason Feger (25), Bloomington, Ill., 11.040
    13.Ray Cook (53), Brasstown, N.C., 11.041
    14.Bob Gardner (4G), East Peoria, Ill., 11.048
    15.Daryn Klein (10), Fairview Heights, Ill., 11.054
    16.Shannon Babb (18), Moweaqua, Ill., 11.064
    17.Justin Kay (15k), Wheatland, Iowa, 11.065
    18.Nick Hoffman (2), Mooresville, N.C., 11.087
    19.Michael Kloos (6k), Trenton, Ill., 11.100
    20.Austin Hubbard (11), Seaford, Del., 11.115
    21.Scott Bell (45), East Prairie, Mo., 11.127
    22.Rusty Schlenk (24HR), Weston, Ohio, 11.133
    23.Tony Jackson Jr. (26R), Lebanon, Mo., 11.138
    24.Matt Bailey (52), Highland, Ill., 11.151
    25.Matt Santel (17x), New Memphis, Ill., 11.154
    26.Shannon Scott (4X), Henryetta, Ohio, 11.181
    27.Dustin Griffin (20), Camp Point, Ill., 11.184
    28.Doug Glessner (17G), Boswell, Pa., 11.185
    29.Spencer Diercks (29), Davenport, Iowa, 11.203
    30.Mike Schulte (27m), Summerfield, Ill., 11.247
    31.Gordy Gundaker (11G), St. Charles, Mo., 11.261
    32.Brian Shirley (53S), Chatham, Ill., 11.287
    33.Scott Ward (37), Watertown, S.D., 11.295
    34.Greg Kimmons (27K), Pleasant Plains, Ill., 11.297
    35.Mike Spatola (89), Manhattan, Ill., 11.300
    36.Cole Swibold (98S), Fairview, Ill., 11.308
    37.Scott Lewis (99), Henderson, Colo., 11.312
    38.Steve Thorsten (7T), Milford, Ill., 11.327
    39.Tanner English (33), Benton, Ky., 11.331
    40.Ryan Unzicker (24), El Paso, Ill., 11.338
    41.Rob Toland (39), Davenport, Iowa, 11.340
    42.Don O’Neal (5), Martinsville, Ind., 11.347
    43.Rodney Melvin (53M), Benton, Ill., 11.354
    44.Scott Fitzpatrick (24F), Wheatland, Iowa, 11.377
    45.Jeff Herzog (11H), Herculaneum, Mo., 11.399
    46.Devin Moran (99m), Dresden, Ohio, 11.405
    47.Brant Kehrer (92), New Memphis, Ill., 11.409
    48.Austin Rettig (94), Sikeston, Mo., 11.416
    49.Jeff Roth (14R), Bentonville, Ark., 11.428
    50.Payton Looney (15X), Republic, Mo., 11.439
    51.Jason Perry (27), Payson, Ill., 11.440
    52.Jason Suhre (4S), Highland, Ill., 11.446
    53.Russ Ogletree (88r), Salem, Ala., 11.463
    54.Caleb Ashby (61), Cunningham, Tenn., 11.486
    55.Hunter Rasdon (R5), Jonesboro, Ark., 11.487
    56.Rick Salter (1S), Aviston, Ill., 11.506
    57.Jimmy Sharpe Jr. (26jr), Vidalia, Ga., 11.529
    58.Brandon Sheppard (B5), New Berlin, Ill., 11.534
    59.Charles LaPlant (3C), East Prairie, Mo., 11.561
    60.Randy Timms (5T), Wheatland, Okla., 11.573
    61.Zach McMillan (14Z), Gladewater, Texas, 11.575
    62.Timothy Culp (c8), Prattsville, Ark., 11.596
    63.Mark Voigt (30V), Marine, Ill., 11.614
    64.Kolby Vandenbergh (15V), Ashland, Ill., 11.627
    65.Jeremy Sneed (24S), Bluford, Ill., 11.628
    66.Derek Fetter (32F), Troy, Mo., 11.647
    67.Matt Taylor (44), Springfield, Ill., 11.675
    68.Austin Theiss (7D), Hockley, Texas, 11.682
    69.Jay Elliott (00E), Phenix City, Ala., 11.686
    70.Chris Fetter (15F), Troy, Mo., 11.688
    71.David Payne (7), Ward, Ark., 11.704
    72.Michael Luna (18L), Baxter, Tenn., 11.710
    73.Jason Zobrist (87), Highland, Ill., 11.729
    74.Bobby Pierce (32), Oakwood, Ill., 11.753
    75.Harrison Hall (99J), Circleville, Ohio, 11.818
    76.Casey Montague (01), Trey, Ill., 11.832
    77.Bryan Collins (11Z), Elsberry, Mo., 11.854
    78.Samuel Tolley (8JR), Butler, Ind., 11.906
    79.Robbie Bauman (30JR), Fairview, Ill., 11.943
    80.Mike Hammerle (16H), St. Charles, Mo., 11.952
    81.Kevin Weaver (B12), Gibson City, Ill., 11.964
    82.Dan Jacober (22), Highland, Ill., 11.981
    83.T.J. Markham (21M), Sycamore, Ill., 11.985
    84.Justin Russell (0X), Henley, Mo., 12.016
    85.Reid Millard (14X), Jefferson City, Mo., 12.073
    86.Jon Driskill (88), Centertown, Mo., 12.084
    87.Cody Holtkamp (23), Holts Summit, Mo., 12.110
    88.Ricky Mardis (2M), West Lafayette, Ohio, 12.152
    89.Chris Geisen (51x), Cottage Hills, Ill., 12.166
    90.Jim Gray (1G), Lynchburg, Tenn., 12.166
    91.Michael Walker (64), Lewisburg, Tenn., 12.190
    92.Nick Davis (92), Delmas, Del., 12.357
    93.Steve Beach (10S), Eldon, Mo., 12.386
    94.Kevin Palmer (12), Woodbine, Md., 12.454
    95.Brandon Tibaldi (17), Almo, Ky., 12.509
    96.Brian Mullins (47), Cincinnati, Ohio, 12.988
    97.Dustin Reese (13R), East Grove, Ill., 13.063

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    Gateway heat lineups, time trial results

    December 15, 2016, 9:49 pm


    ST. LOUIS, Mo. — Thursday’s preliminary time trials for the VP Racing Fuels Gateway Dirt Nationals presented by Karl Performance setting Friday’s heat race lineups at The Dome at America's Center:

    Friday’s heat race lineups

    (Eight laps - winners transfer; 2nd-5th to B-mains; 6th-8th to C-mains; 9th-13th to D-mains)
    First heat
    Row 1: Darrell Lanigan, Joey Coulter
    Row 2: Justin Kay, Matt Santel
    Row 3: Scott Ward, Rob Toland
    Row 4: Jeff Roth, Jimmy Sharpe Jr.
    Row 5: Jeremy Sneed, Jason Zobrist
    Row 6: Kevin Weaver, Jim Gray
    Row 7: Dustin Reese
    Second heat
    Row 1: Scott Bloomquist, Jesse Stovall
    Row 2: Nick Hoffman, Shannon Scott
    Row 3: Greg Kimmons, Don O'Neal
    Row 4: Payton Looney, Brandon Sheppard
    Row 5: Derek Fetter, Bobby Pierce
    Row 6: Dan Jacober, Chris Geisen
    Third heat
    Row 1: Casey Roberts, Chad Zobrist
    Row 2: Michael Kloos, Dustin Griffin
    Row 3: Mike Spatola, Rodney Melvin
    Row 4: Jason Perry, Charles LaPlant
    Row 5: Matt Taylor, Harrison Hall
    Row 6: T.J. Markham, Michael Walker
    Fourth heat
    Row 1: Tim Senic, Jason Feger
    Row 2: Austin Hubbard, Doug Glessner
    Row 3: Cole Swibold, Scott Fitzpatrick
    Row 4: Jason Suhre, Randy Timms
    Row 5: Austin Theiss, Casey Montague
    Row 6: Justin Russell, Nick Davis
    Fifth heat
    Row 1: Billy Moyer Jr., Ray Cook
    Row 2: Scott Bell, Spencer Diercks
    Row 3: Scott Lewis, Jeff Herzog
    Row 4: Russ Ogletree, Zach McMillan
    Row 5: Jay Elliott, Bryan Collins
    Row 6: Reid Millard, Steve Beach
    Sixth heat
    Row 1: Chris Simpson, Bob Gardner
    Row 2: Rusty Schlenk, Mike Schulte
    Row 3: Steve Thorsten, Devin Moran
    Row 4: Caleb Ashby, Timothy Culp
    Row 5: Chris Fetter, Samuel Tolley
    Row 6: Jon Driskill, Kevin Palmer
    Seventh heat
    Row 1: Jacob Magee, Daryn Klein
    Row 2: Tony Jackson Jr., Gordy Gundaker
    Row 3: Tanner English, Brant Kehrer
    Row 4: Hunter Rasdon, Mark Voigt
    Row 5: David Payne, Robbie Bauman
    Row 6: Cody Holtkamp, Brandon Tibaldi
    Eighth heat
    Row 1: Kent Robinson, Shannon Babb
    Row 2: Matt Bailey, Brian Shirley
    Row 3: Ryan Unzicker, Austin Rettig
    Row 4: Rick Salter, Kolby Vandenbergh
    Row 5: Michael Luna, Mike Hammerle
    Row 6: Ricky Mardis, Brian Mullins

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    The ventilation issues can be corrected. They just need a controls contractor in there to override OA and exhaust dampers. No big deal, you would think this would already be in place.
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    Eight 12 car heats, only 8 laps and one car moves to the feature? Why not just take them from times and save the vent problems, to some extent. A mile and a half race will be over by the time they get spread out to race. The last Mod race rolled off at 3.11 AM this morning. That is just too late, with out dancing girls and alcohol involved. That would be better than shortening the feature, which is just 8 miles long now. Most of us go farther than that, to get to the grocery store. Most 20k races are 100 laps. I sure hope I'm wrong, but this format doesn't seem like a fan friendly one. It should be interesting to see, how many cars the winner passes to win the Feature. This isn't whine, it's constructive criticism. Who likes a time trial to checkers fast track?

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    Quote Originally Posted by REM1187 View Post
    (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) why do you all have to be whiny lil bitches. There is late model and modified racing in Dec enjoy it and quit being lil bitches
    On an opinionated racing site/forum, b!tching about people b!tching, gotcha.
    Up in the air who my next “favorite” driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normal”.

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    Fell asleep prior to the Mod heats......how was the track for racing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis View Post
    Fell asleep prior to the Mod heats......how was the track for racing?
    One lane bottom follow the leader.

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    Ugh....I was afraid of that.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis View Post
    Ugh....I was afraid of that.

    Thanks.
    I only watched one race, it was live streamed in ray bollinger facebook page, it's still on there for those that want to watch, lots of yellows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chupp n bloomer fan View Post
    That sucks for them. To plan out everything, but obviously you don't know how the ventilation will be until you get cars out there. Hopefully they can make some tweaks with airflow and get it better.
    cnbf, the same situation with carbon monoxide presented itself last year at the Indy Invitational. I was afraid the CO problem might rear it's ugly head at St. Louis, as well! Could be another very long night. If they're having CO problems just with qualifying one can only imagine how bad it could possibly be when they get 10 or 12 cars racing all at once. Hope they get it figured out for tonight.

    We might be a very late arrival (or a very early Saturday morning arrival) at our rooms over at Du Quoin.

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    Anybody know what time they let spectators into the dome yesterday???

    Stop b!tching!! We're racing in December. Life is good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjp0354 View Post
    Stop b!tching!! We're racing in December. Life is good!
    Nothing not to love about racing in December and January but when you have the St Louis health department periodically halting the racing action due to high carbon monoxide levels life becomes not so good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjp0354 View Post

    Stop b!tching!! We're racing in December. Life is good!
    Alot of tracks race in December

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    Seems like something like this would work better at a stadium like in Dallas or Arizona (of course in AZ you could just race outside in December), but a stadium that had a retractable roof you could crack at times and endzones that you could crack or leave open. I doubt Jerry Jones would ever let it happen, but if the right money came along probably. They usually do Supercross/Monster Jam/Bullriding back to back weekends in February/March so that they only have to haul the dirt in and out 1 time. Talk about an event this would be at a venue where you didn't have to worry about ventilation. You'd have 1,000 modifieds show up for that thing lol. Good thing about Dallas/Atlanta is that you can get a direct flight in there from nearly any spot in the free world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MI Dirt Fan View Post
    Alot of tracks race in December

    Not 2.5 hours from my home they don't. I went to the disaster in Indy and didn't think twice about buying tickets for St. Louis the day they went on sale. I'm not at work and I can see and smell a race car on the track. Life is good.

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