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    Ya right. His red hat should have said "make Russia great". Grab another cool aide.

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    Surely, you will agree that was the sorriest bunch of candidates that the American people had to choice from for at least 30-40 years. There wasn't a qualified person amongst any of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pig tracker View Post
    Surely, you will agree that was the sorriest bunch of candidates that the American people had to choice from for at least 30-40 years. There wasn't a qualified person amongst any of them.
    Naaahhhh......just Obama, Clinton, and Carter and they just so happen to be Democrats!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pig tracker View Post
    Surely, you will agree that was the sorriest bunch of candidates that the American people had to choice from for at least 30-40 years. There wasn't a qualified person amongst any of them.
    Nonsense. There were many good Republicans, but not one single Democrat that is worth a plug nickel, unless you want a path to Communism.

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    Every President profits from HAVING BEEN the President, Republican or Democrat, it makes no difference. They get a lot of coin after leaving office on speaking tours, books, etc. The difference is every other President has done it AFTER leaving office.

    This guy has been there for less than a month and he's ALREADY using it for personal gain. Be as deaf dumb and blind to it as you want, but that is what the Trumpster has spent his life solely devoted to, making a buck for himself and screwing everyone else.

    Just see it for what it is. Time will tell whether the American people or Congress will continue to look the other way. My gut is if America does great under his leadership, no one will care if he uses it for personal gain. But if we all tank while he makes out like a bandit?

    All you guys on here supporting him will be the loudest voices calling for his head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t.nie View Post
    Every President profits from HAVING BEEN the President, Republican or Democrat, it makes no difference. They get a lot of coin after leaving office on speaking tours, books, etc. The difference is every other President has done it AFTER leaving office.

    This guy has been there for less than a month and he's ALREADY using it for personal gain. Be as deaf dumb and blind to it as you want, but that is what the Trumpster has spent his life solely devoted to, making a buck for himself and screwing everyone else.

    Just see it for what it is. Time will tell whether the American people or Congress will continue to look the other way. My gut is if America does great under his leadership, no one will care if he uses it for personal gain. But if we all tank while he makes out like a bandit?

    All you guys on here supporting him will be the loudest voices calling for his head.
    Then you are saying Obama earned 12.2 million dollars in 26 days since leaving office and his wife has earned 11.8 million, come on now you cant be that blind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drano View Post
    Like I said I doubt you could understand mine and it is on a small scale compared to his and it is not a requirement to show tax returns it is only a suggestion
    Nobody cares about your tax returns..

    I own a business and have over a million invested you would be surprised what I can understand, not that thats relevant either..

    The topic we are trying to discuss is the things trump is doing, they dont have anything to do with what obama supposedly did or clinton or anyone else, they are current events that are unfolding daily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t.nie View Post
    Time will tell whether the American people or Congress will continue to look the other way.
    That's not going to happen. It appears as if Flynn will be the first of this administration to be sent to jail. He certainly won't be the last. The corruption goes all the way to the top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stock car driver View Post
    Nobody cares about your tax returns..

    I own a business and have over a million invested you would be surprised what I can understand, not that thats relevant either..

    The topic we are trying to discuss is the things trump is doing, they dont have anything to do with what obama supposedly did or clinton or anyone else, they are current events that are unfolding daily.
    Sounds good pal lets discuss what Trump is doing looked at the stock market lately and the Clinton News Network right after the election was saying it would crash they were all screaming like chicken little the sky is falling the sky is falling. They are in mass hysteria just got to tune them out.

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    Talked to my financial adviser last week. He said cash in while the cashing in is good right now and stockpile that cash somewhere safe. Won't last.

    The big problem we have now is we bailed out all those big banks 9 years ago (thanks Obama) when they should have been destroyed and tanked the whole economy. Then we did nothing to financially regulate them (Thanks Republican Obstruction and Tea Party). The one thing I might really love about the Trumpster is if he sees he can make more money letting the Big Banks implode and destroy the whole economy in the process with no bail out, we might get a new financial system that benefits all of us instead of the wealthy few.

    So all of this hinges on what's in Trump's personal financial interests and probably how his Russian gangster buddies can make the most money out of it. Sad but true.

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    Where did you get your $11 and 12 million figures? And you know, you can see every year how much the Obamas, and the Clintons make from their tax returns which they made public.

    Of course, with Trump, we'll never know because he likes his secrets and will never tell the American people the truth about them or anything else for that matter. It's not like he is choosing to lie about particular things really either, he just lies out of habit. It's just his nature to tell stories, and it really doesn't matter to him if there is any truth to what he says or not.

    That's what Conway, Spicer, Bannon and the rest of his rogue's gallery is there for. To try and cover for his mouth. Thats where this "alternative facts" that Conway made up one day comes from, trying to justify and rationalize the irresponsible nonsense that spews forth from Mr President.

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    Some financial experts are predicting a market crash sometime this year and some have said big gains so, we will see who was right.

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    Oh, its gonna crash, Kid. It aint a matter of if, it's just a matter of when. This year, next year, year after that? Who knows. and the other thing that is unknown is just how bad is it going to be. You know what destroyed our system back in the mid 2000's, credit default swaps and all that crap?

    Big banks started selling similar crap again around 2015. Now, they don't have the same level of loan origination to give them a big pile of crap to sell, but they're selling that garbage again, just under a new name.

    This time around it could be the 1920's all over again. All the indicators are there. I sure hope they are wrong.

    Then we have student loan debt and on top of that unsecured loan debt, all piled up like a house of cards just waiting for breeze to come along strong enough to knock it all down.

    People think illegal immigrants are what we have to worry about? Try a financial collapse so huge the Federal Government doesn't have the money to bail the nation out. Total depression for years to come. 20-30% unemployment, all financial aid cut off, no money for schools, roads, cuts in federal spending beyond anything you have ever seen, total anarchy brought about by financial meltdown.

    Financial Armageddon. So bad the feds CAN'T fix it or band aid it. Billionaires reduced to millionaires, millionaires made paupers, working class folks scratching for food and water. Total reset of the world economic system built on debt.

    Think you got it bad now? Hope it doesn't happen, but it did in the 20's and almost did 10 years ago. We aren't in safe hands at all now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by t.nie View Post
    dirtdobber, do some research into Japanese culture, how much emphasis they place on status and power in their culture. Trump already doubled the price of membership to Mar a Lago, so he is already profiteering off his status as President. What other reason can you possibly see for a doubling of the price to his little boys club? I can't imagine what kind of outrage there would be on these boards if a Democrat was pulling these stunts. You guys would lose your minds.
    Answering your first paragraph: Thsts in their own country. Because as you said its in their culture. From your second paragraph: Let me ask a quick question...didnt Trump have to give up his assets before becoming President and if so he doesnt own Mar a lago right? And wouldnt it be in the best interest that every precaution made to make sure our President is safe on his trips? So one way of doing that would be upping the price on membership so you didnt have every idiot trying to gain access to the President right? And a little history if you didnt know that the lady that built that place had dreams that the Presidents and other big wigs would have a place to gather instead of being in the cold up north. And on your last paragraph: We did speak our minds a many time but it was to deaf ears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stock car driver View Post
    Nobody cares about your tax returns..I own a business and have over a million invested you would be surprised what I can understand, not that thats relevant either..The topic we are trying to discuss is the things trump is doing, they dont have anything to do with what obama supposedly did or clinton or anyone else, they are current events that are unfolding daily.
    So why is it that you have to talk about yourself in every post if its not about you? And really, you have a million invested in 4 cyl racing parts? REALLY???
    If I havent offended you please be patient Ill get to you as soon as I can...... and yes Im a Bloomquist fan...deal w it!!! WWG1WGA!!!

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    That's in their own country? Oh, so you cease to have American values when you go to Mexico? You don't get it. Now all the Japanese big wigs are vying to book a week at Mar a Lago, because it's bragging rights back in their own country. See how that works? They get to name drop it at their local club... "I played Mar a Lago last month... very nice place... Yes, the place where Prime Minister Abe and President Trump met... yes, ate in the same dining room, very elegant..." etc. Bragging rights. Like who has the latest and greatest Learjet, who owns the rarest sports car, who got the biggest golden parachute... You think Trump doesn't know how his cronies think and how to play them to drum up business for his resort using it as a getaway when entertaining foreign nationals?

    And he didn't give up his assets, that is called divestiture. Every other President put their private holdings in a verifiable blind trust to ensure there was no perception they still were involved in the day to day dealings in their businesses. Trump is way to much of a micromanaging control freak to do that and could care less if he looks like a sleazy self serving profiteer, so he gave it to his kids but still has his hands on the levers through them every single day. So no, he isn't out of his own businesses at all, and anyone who thinks so is not living in reality. With all the best will in the world, it would be almost impossible for someone, anyone of Trump's level of business magnate empire runner to divest themselves completely while in office. Which is just another reason why he shouldn't be running this nation, he just isn't in a position to do it and do it right without a never ending flow of conflicts of interest between making himself wealthier and looking out for the nation.

    The price of a membership wasn't raised to "protect the President." That's comical. "Yes, Mr. President, you should raise the membership cost of your private golf resort, it will enhance your security..." Ummm... if he wasn't safe there at $100,000 a year, raising it to $200,000 isn't making him any safer.... lol The way you secure a President is to keep him in a known secured environment. Like, ummm...... The White House, for instance? Just a guess, but I would think a building built like a fortress, designed to be the residency of the most powerful man in the world might just be a teensie weensie bit more secure than a golf club? Maybe? Just guessing, you know, taking a wild shot in the dark here? hmmmm. Golf Club vs White House, which might be more secure... hmmmmm. tough one right there. But its ok, just raise the price of membership, THAT'LL secure the President..... sure... that's all you need to do.

    And you didn't speak your minds, you obstructed. Big difference. You can't lead the unleadable.
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    Appears to me, the GREEN MONSTER has reared his ugly head!

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    Quote Originally Posted by t.nie View Post
    Talked to my financial adviser last week. He said cash in while the cashing in is good right now and stockpile that cash somewhere safe. Won't last.

    The big problem we have now is we bailed out all those big banks 9 years ago (thanks Obama) when they should have been destroyed and tanked the whole economy. Then we did nothing to financially regulate them (Thanks Republican Obstruction and Tea Party). The one thing I might really love about the Trumpster is if he sees he can make more money letting the Big Banks implode and destroy the whole economy in the process with no bail out, we might get a new financial system that benefits all of us instead of the wealthy few.

    So all of this hinges on what's in Trump's personal financial interests and probably how his Russian gangster buddies can make the most money out of it. Sad but true.

    You need a new financial advisor. I'm available. If he or she told you that, they are nothing more than a Trump hating lefty.

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    I don't really have an issue with some Japanese guys spending money on golf and vacationing and American employees getting paid. I'm sure it was a much nicer, more relaxed setting there too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidrock View Post
    Some financial experts are predicting a market crash sometime this year and some have said big gains so, we will see who was right.
    Its called the bears vs the bulls and neither one should be listened too. Every year there is a prediction of a crash, every single year. In fact every single day. If they said it enough, one year there will be a down turn then the bears can say they are right. Markets are about fear and greed. If fear comes about there is a down turn. Then greed takes over and there is an up turn. As far as the big banks, the gambling and bundling has pretty much subsided. Just like the corrections that were made after the crash of 29. I do not know what the market will do and no one else does either. But i can tell you why it is going up and I feel better about it than when the left was just printing money the last eight years, and big investors were buying the market on cheap money. If Trump is moving the real job market and manufacturing forward, the market is on a bit more solid ground. I expect the unemployment to rise a bit. Why? Because workers may well start trying to get back in the work force. The real unemployment numbers are close to 10% currently with about 6 % who left the job market. They will re-enter the active market if they think they can get employment, so it will possibly drive up the unemployment number for a while. The real numbers will not be the smoke and mirrors of the horrid last eight years.
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