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    When we were approached by Matt Miley about sponsoring a provisional it wasn't something I was interested in doing, because I don't believe in multiple provisionals to fill the field. My believe is the spot should go to the next car in line that earned it. If a track wants to start more cars then take more out of heats or B mains. Matt Miley didn't have an easy sell to me but after numerous calls and texts I give in and sponsored the provisional. I had no thoughts of it being something that would get criticism but after getting this post sent to me this morning all I can say is we are sorry for any inconvenience it has created. In the future we will refrain from sponsoring any races or race tracks. The Miley's try hard to bring a big paying race to the area and I appreciate what they do as well as all the promoters across the United States. Being a promoter is a tough and a thankless job we were promoters of one of the best tracks in WV for 14 years so we understand and do not want to cause this event any negative publicity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Richards View Post
    When we were approached by Matt Miley about sponsoring a provisional it wasn't something I was interested in doing, because I don't believe in multiple provisionals to fill the field. My believe is the spot should go to the next car in line that earned it. If a track wants to start more cars then take more out of heats or B mains. Matt Miley didn't have an easy sell to me but after numerous calls and texts I give in and sponsored the provisional. I had no thoughts of it being something that would get criticism but after getting this post sent to me this morning all I can say is we are sorry for any inconvenience it has created. In the future we will reframe from sponsoring any races or race tracks. The Miley's try hard to bring a big paying race to the area and I appreciate what they do as well as all the promoters across the United States. Being a promoter is a tough and a thankless job we were promoters of one of the best tracks in WV for 14 years so we understand and do not want to cause this event any negative publicity.
    I think it's a good, creative idea. No need to stop just because some people, especially on here are butt hurt over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Richards View Post
    When we were approached by Matt Miley about sponsoring a provisional it wasn't something I was interested in doing, because I don't believe in multiple provisionals to fill the field. My believe is the spot should go to the next car in line that earned it. If a track wants to start more cars then take more out of heats or B mains. Matt Miley didn't have an easy sell to me but after numerous calls and texts I give in and sponsored the provisional. I had no thoughts of it being something that would get criticism but after getting this post sent to me this morning all I can say is we are sorry for any inconvenience it has created. In the future we will reframe from sponsoring any races or race tracks. The Miley's try hard to bring a big paying race to the area and I appreciate what they do as well as all the promoters across the United States. Being a promoter is a tough and a thankless job we were promoters of one of the best tracks in WV for 14 years so we understand and do not want to cause this event any negative publicity.
    When you're at the top, you got some haters. I wouldn't let it deter you from a dam thing. You, Bloomer, Bobby, JD, Josh, and others shoulda quit by now with all the BS thrown your way.

    I'd keep doing it just outta spite.
    Up in the air who my next “favorite” driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normal”.

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    Sponsoring a provisional is one thing but when you put restrictions on who is eligible for it like car brand or where the person is from is where I believe it wrong. It should go to the highest time trial driver not to qualify thru the heats or B-mains. The amount of years that Mr Richards has been in racing and a former promoter he should have known that there would be repercussions for basically paying to have a car in the field. I'm not saying he shouldn't sponsor a track, race or series but use common sense next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chupp n bloomer fan View Post
    And the Miley's charge way more to get in than any other track, been that way for 30 years.

    Is what it is, I don't go to PMS, because of their prices and I don't like the track. I'd still go even though they had this provisional if I liked the place.

    Wonder if you guys would sing the same tune if it was a Lazer, Rayburn, Kryptonite, Swartz, etc.?

    The main ones in here with an issue don't like Rocket, just saying.
    You have to realize the main ones bitching about it are the same ones who whine about the two main series constantly or how "the little guy doesn't stand a chance any more. Boo hoo I can't afford to race with the big guys but instead of dropping down a class I'd rather whine like a little girl."

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash49 View Post
    No Lucas Oil regulars failed to get a spot because of this provisional.
    Who cares if they did? The Lucas procedures make that an impossibility anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NormP View Post
    You have to realize the main ones bitching about it are the same ones who whine about the two main series constantly or how "the little guy doesn't stand a chance any more. Boo hoo I can't afford to race with the big guys but instead of dropping down a class I'd rather whine like a little girl."
    How about we have a jig a low provisional and make sure a guy brings one? Some star gazers ignore impropriety. This sport continues to be undone by concentration of power.
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    Miller Welders Fast Time Provisional: Tommy Beck

    I look at the provisional as Rocket giving back to it's Customers. Nothing is stopping any other business from doing the same.

    Go find a corner and scream into you might feel better about it.

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    Rocket could give every late model racer in the country a million dollars, figure out a deal with North Korea, and find a cure of cancer and 4M would still b* tch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MBR Performance View Post
    Sponsoring a provisional is one thing but when you put restrictions on who is eligible for it like car brand or where the person is from is where I believe it wrong. It should go to the highest time trial driver not to qualify thru the heats or B-mains. The amount of years that Mr Richards has been in racing and a former promoter he should have known that there would be repercussions for basically paying to have a car in the field. I'm not saying he shouldn't sponsor a track, race or series but use common sense next time.
    He paid the money for the provisional spot, he can put whoever he wants in it. I don't see what the problem is. IT'S A PROVISIONAL....if a car doesn't make the main through their heat or their B-main, they have nobody to be mad at but themselves. Don't be butthurt....be faster.

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    What he said^^^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by No_Weak_Links View Post
    He paid the money for the provisional spot, he can put whoever he wants in it. I don't see what the problem is. IT'S A PROVISIONAL....if a car doesn't make the main through their heat or their B-main, they have nobody to be mad at but themselves. Don't be butthurt....be faster.
    That's the point. Can everyone pay to play?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
    That's the point. Can everyone pay to play?
    I hope so.

    I'll be fronting the money for a Snow Bros Racecars , out of Florida, provisional for next year!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
    That's the point. Can everyone pay to play?
    I guess so if a track contacts you wanting you to sponsor a provisional. This is nothing new. Tracks all over the country insist on 1 or 2 track provisionals when they sign contracts for different series.....they could have just called it a track provisional, gave it to a rocket car and nobody would've said a word. Like I said, if drivers don't like it...get faster. Don't put yourself in a position where the only hope you have in making a race is getting a handout.

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    Sounds like the promotor badgered Mark into agreeing to this bs provisional (after numerous calls/texts). I'll go ask Bob if he got the same badgering. Would love to see Bobby in LOLMS fields that he did not make based on his chassis manufacturer.

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    These promoters provisionals don't earn any championship points, and if I'm not mistaken, Lucas doesn't pay their purse money either. That comes from the track or sponsor of the provisional.
    It is also outside of the normal amount of starters for a Lucas Oil race.

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    Since the LOLMS or PPMS websites do not make mention of this "special provisional", is it safe now to assume that some of these track provisionals are sold off by the promotor and bought by a sponsor specifically for his/her customers ??

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    Everyone should thank Mark Richards for paying for that provisional . Non business owners don't understand how a write off works . They think him paying 1200 reduces his tax liability by 1200 and makes it a wash. That's not how it works , he only saves paying the tax on that money. It is literally burning money because the waiting list for the blazing fast XR1 cars isn't getting any shorter. It was nice of him and he should be thanked not bashed. If the track provisionals were 2 highest point guys To not transfer it would most likely result in more cars coming every week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hucktyson View Post
    Everyone should thank Mark Richards for paying for that provisional . Non business owners don't understand how a write off works . They think him paying 1200 reduces his tax liability by 1200 and makes it a wash. That's not how it works , he only saves paying the tax on that money. It is literally burning money because the waiting list for the blazing fast XR1 cars isn't getting any shorter. It was nice of him and he should be thanked not bashed. If the track provisionals were 2 highest point guys To not transfer it would most likely result in more cars coming every week.
    Holy sh!t Huck, you made a good post. Well said.
    Up in the air who my next “favorite” driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normal”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh Bayko View Post
    Rocket could give every late model racer in the country a million dollars, figure out a deal with North Korea, and find a cure of cancer and 4M would still b* tch.
    Yep, pretty much.
    Up in the air who my next “favorite” driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normal”.

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