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WoO Lie Detecter Tests
Looks like the WoO LM Series will have lie detector tests available for those teams found with juiced tires. It appears that the driver, crew chief, and tire man will all have to take the test if they disagree with the results. It will cost I believe $550 each!
Late Model Mark
Talladega Short Track Announcer
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I didn't think a lie detector test was submissible in a court of law but maybe the laws have changed. But if the case still, how can they claim the test is relevant in deciding guilt or innocence. They're not foolproof.
Either way, if you pass the lie detector test, are you free of charges?
8/13/16
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It won't hold up in court but it is a private business so they can do what they choose
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Yep. A lie detector test isn't admissible in official court proceedings. However, as FatPharmer said the way the WoO's will be using the LDT's they will not be part of official court proceedings and will be used for their own information and determining guilt or innocence.
It's not a bad idea on the surface, but administering LDT's has the potential to open cans of worms that they maybe hadn't counted upon. On the same token, I'm sure they have several shyster lawyer's on retainer that have looked into eventualities that may arise.
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Only if they take one as well, with public announcement of results.
“Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.” — The Dude
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550 a test. So, if the results come back you have failed the lab test but passed the lie detector test. Me personally, until something is officially released by the WoO. I would say someone's tongue is dipped in dirt. Legally, I think if the above happens. Teams that where previously guilty are going to sue there pants off.
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If BS was snow flakes, we would have the biggest blizzard of the century here. If tech was honest to start with, and stated the dastardly chemical that was found in the tire and it was a above board A B A test with back up and made public, there would never have been a problem. If your going to make a detergent or WD40 , something you would clean hands or parts with, don't say it's a safety thing. If it is one of the chemicals that gives liver cancer from touching or breathing, ban them for life. If you judge the racer in front of the fans, show what your judging on. Since it was a safety rule the contaminate better not be some cleaner we use every day or eat. If it's something like hexoclorithane, that has been banned for a long time, for any use, hang them. Just don't tell us simple green or oil of wintergreen are cancer causing agents. If Hoosier has a problem with tires lasting too long or not, that's their problem.
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If they were confident in their tire testing this wouldn't be an option. Right?
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Originally Posted by Late_Model_Mark
Looks like the WoO LM Series will have lie detector tests available for those teams found with juiced tires. It appears that the driver, crew chief, and tire man will all have to take the test if they disagree with the results. It will cost I believe $550 each!
Late Model Mark
Talladega Short Track Announcer
Where did you see this at?
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Originally Posted by Bubstr
If BS was snow flakes, we would have the biggest blizzard of the century here. If tech was honest to start with, and stated the dastardly chemical that was found in the tire and it was a above board A B A test with back up and made public, there would never have been a problem. If your going to make a detergent or WD40 , something you would clean hands or parts with, don't say it's a safety thing. If it is one of the chemicals that gives liver cancer from touching or breathing, ban them for life. If you judge the racer in front of the fans, show what your judging on. Since it was a safety rule the contaminate better not be some cleaner we use every day or eat. If it's something like hexoclorithane, that has been banned for a long time, for any use, hang them. Just don't tell us simple green or oil of wintergreen are cancer causing agents. If Hoosier has a problem with tires lasting too long or not, that's their problem.
Great post.
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Isn't this exactly what those that have been caught in the past have asked for at the time?? Madden, Bloomquist, Owens & Feger all had mentioned taking a LDT. Now that its made as part of the WoO determination some of you with online law degrees holler that it isn't admissible. NO ONE said anything about court...
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They have been giving Lie detector tests at Bass fishing tournaments for years, this is nothing new to me.
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Easy to beat if you aren't an emotional wreck.
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Just about every driver ever popped for tires always swears innocence and says something about taking a lie detector test to prove their innocence. Looks like the WoO is finally just telling them to put up or shut up. It will be interesting to see if anybody ever takes em up on it.
Last edited by Josh Bayko; 01-21-2018 at 06:15 PM.
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Didn’t they have Mars take one after Bloomer whines about getting beat at the firecracker?
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Bloomer takes it and gets electrocuted
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Pop a guy dirty once and keep the results a secret. Pop him a 2nd time and then you now have results from 2 tests. Won't be any of this bull(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) about running thru chemicals on the track.
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ive been saying for years Hoosier can not guarantee that every batch of tires is chemically the same. with Continental Tires taking over the problem is only going to get worst. have you ever heard Hoosier make a clam that their tires are consistency the same. trough out the tire juiceing debate the only person no one has heard from is hoosier
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Originally Posted by HoosierDirtFan
Where did you see this at?
If anyone still gets area auto racing news tbey have a page on this in last weeks paper
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If the occasion arises........Are the woo officials going to be subjected to taking one too?
Where is the move over flag when you need it?????
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