two day show with 32 cars?

[chupp n bloomer fan]

So the logic I’m hearing from yall is if what, if there were 42 cars it would be worth a 2 day show? Really? Or 52? Why don’t we just have a one night show with 5 features and 4 of them are passing point features 20 laps each all to qualify for the 100 lap show(5th race... so exciting!!!! Then, the most guys to pass the most cars in those 4 heats tally up points to qualify them for the main event. It would be like the points chase then the he best finishers from those races go to the playoffs (100 lap feature)That way all the fans get to see so much more racing. Cus it’s all about more races. Racing racing racing. It don’t even have to make sense like Nasacar. We could do segments!!! That way all you ADHD millennials from the suburbs can stay engaged. Pop some pills a go racin. Yeah!!!!!!!!! Just keep dumbing it up for all us old school guys. Gotta evolve and appease the masses screw the loyal fans.im fed up with all you babies. Bunch of little babies

Who has ADHD now? Or Dementia? Or acting like a millennial?

No one is poppin their top but you, use actual thought out sentences and say why you love a two day show for 32 cars with one feature.

Examples of places who have changed their format, for the fans and the racers. And races held this weekend that were two complete shows.

Lake Cumberland, Greenville, DTWC, Eldora, N/S, Atomic, and so on. PPMS and I think the Jackson 100 are the old format. If you like that, great, most don’t. It’s another night in a hotel, and or a days work missed. Not a millennial, but those who are 45-65 created them, so blame them too.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

I keep hearing about this big track, hard on engine stuff. I don't buy it. Back in the day, they ran WVMS and Pittsburgh Pennsylvania Motor Speedway with engines that were built in back yard garages and nowhere near as refined as they are now. And they still ran fast, raced and won. I just don't buy that argument. Just my opinion.

They are way more hooked up now, with engines with tighter tolerances. A lot of people do not have the wide bore, top of line motors. And yes it does matter. See WVMS. Now they ended up closing because of promoters, owners not working things out. I wanna say the Mennonites I think it was still own it.

[Highside Hustler25]

I think they should switch it sort of to the way Fairbury does it!

Bingo. FALS tinkered around with a couple different formats before establishing what I think is the perfect ticket. 4 qualifying 25 lap features on night 1. Then the big show on night 2. Wish more tracks would do the same.

[TerryM]

I keep hearing about this big track, hard on engine stuff. I don't buy it. Back in the day, they ran WVMS and Pittsburgh Pennsylvania Motor Speedway with engines that were built in back yard garages and nowhere near as refined as they are now. And they still ran fast, raced and won. I just don't buy that argument. Just my opinion.

Drivers hated WVMS. Believe me, I heard them say it all the time.

[kazual]

Haven’t been to the Pittsburgh track so my feeling is more general than specific to them. Always gets me when a fan suggests throwing another 50-100k at the purse as their solution to a short field or less than an optimal fan experience, think that was one of the thoughts of a person posting here. That’s more about their fantasies rather than the track’s best interest. Race tracks are a business not a money loosing proposition just for the fans benefit. Seems to me the only way that track owners make much money is if their land is acquired and used for another purpose. Some few tracks are profitable no doubt but the majority are marginally profitable if at all, in fact many loose money on a regular basis. As a rule tracks do not change hands allowing the owner to profit from the sale. More often it’s because the track is in financial dire straights and they are looking to unload it. Look, there’s been much debate on track managers and scrutiny of owners and promoters and it’s well deserved. And as said earlier I know zip about Pittsburgh, maybe an overhaul of the format and event is prudent to look at. But people who have never owned or promoted a race track and suggest the solution is laying out more cash don’t get a lot of credibility with me.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

You could not logically bring yourself to spend the amount a ticket would cost to attend a $50k to $100k race at PMS. I’m dead serious. And no, it would not make a difference. Money isn’t the answer, logistics, track size, schedule, track likability, promoters/owners, and so on.

[hucktyson]

If the casino installed a slot machine in his rig he’d never be late lol

[Josh Bayko]

The only way you’ll see a 50k+ race at PPMS is if somebody leases the track.

[MI Dirt Fan]

Exactly Huckytyson. Too many people trying to compare the past and present. Like comparing apples to oranges.

[golddirt]

So what is your preference, apples or oranges? I like pears.

[t3r3e3]

But, you’ll continue to see 50k ticket prices for 20k shows. Pittsburgh has and does gouge ticket prices.