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    So Charlotte is packed with cars and people for the worst purse in America and the do normal qualifying start straight up like racing was meant to be. If fans don’t support that format why is the place packed ? If racers don’t support that format how does 500 to start pull 76 cars but 2500 to start pulls 49 ??

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    People are impressed with fancy facilities and push and flips.

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    Three different fanbases there too. That helps a bunch.
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    People go to enjoy the races. Those are the ones not on here complaining all the time

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    Now why a bunch of racers go there, it makes absolutely no sense.

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    Because its sorts like a vacation to some of the drivers. The camping and after race partying is the last chance to have a little fun before everything is put away for the winter. Especially the northern drivers who in about a month is going to be stuck indoors all winter. I know several drivers who said they were going to watch anyway so they might as well take their cars

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaceEngineer View Post
    Now why a bunch of racers go there, it makes absolutely no sense.
    Like someone said above, 3 different classes with top national drivers of them classes. That draws fans fill the seats up and that equals to merchandise sales $$$$$. Then smaller teams get a chance get in the event get notice or just love the compentition.

    But at end of the day why question it? It works, fans pack the place, draws more than lot the other crown jewels in all 3 classes. Maybe lucas should do dtwc like that. Lucas late model, ascs, mods. 2 or 3 day event 100k late models, 50k ascs, 25k mods. It would pack the house and have big merchandise sales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kwd1253 View Post
    Like someone said above, 3 different classes with top national drivers of them classes. That draws fans fill the seats up and that equals to merchandise sales $$$$$. Then smaller teams get a chance get in the event get notice or just love the compentition. But at end of the day why question it? It works, fans pack the place, draws more than lot the other crown jewels in all 3 classes. Maybe lucas should do dtwc like that. Lucas late model, ascs, mods. 2 or 3 day event 100k late models, 50k ascs, 25k mods. It would pack the house and have big merchandise sales.
    I didn't question the fan count. It makes sense. For a middle of the road racer, it makes no sense. It's hard racing for little pay.

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    Because it's a fun event for the spectators and it's a chance for the drivers to compete on a big stage at the end if the season.

    Why do guys spend years and huge money to run at Bonneville for a trophy and their name in a record book?

    BTW...if anyone thinks DLM's are the coolest go to Bonneville and be amazed.
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    Plain and simple.......a racing pioneer in my area once said:

    "A racer is a racer, and a racer's gonna race"!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdcllk View Post
    People go to enjoy the races. Those are the ones not on here complaining all the time
    Well said. I have been to 134 tracks, thousands of races. This is a weekend I look forward too. Have not missed Charlotte in the fall since their first year. Great racing, fair pricing, and lot to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZERO25 View Post
    Plain and simple.......a racing pioneer in my area once said:

    "A racer is a racer, and a racer's gonna race"!
    Exactly.......#1 reason why the sport in some fashion will always be around.

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    With all due respect, the worst purse in dirt racing is the Chili Bowl. 10k to win for a race that is called the Super Bowl of midget racing, drawing 250-300 cars every year. Drivers from asphalt, lates, sprints, etc all show up. Winners list is a who’s who of open wheel racing. Garbage purse for a race of that magnitude.
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    No disrespect to anyone, but when we raced we went to race for the competition and glory. Money was secondary. i know racing for a living in this day and age is a different story, and a shame at that...

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    Ya the chili bowl shoyuld pay 50k. Who promotes or puts on the event? Wonder what kind of profit they turn?...

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    Sometimes the win itself is more prestigious than the payout. The World 100 is an example. The Chili Bowl. Even the the Duel in the Desert IMCA race at the Las Vegas dirt track. Only pays $7,777 but a couple hundred cars give or take show up.

    They don't remember you for the x amount of dollars you won only what event you won.

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    Only 1 guys wins the $100,000,$50,000,$30,000 that some of the bigger races pay. The rest of the purse is similar. 2 Night $20,000 win shows pay nothing Night 1 and $20,000 Night 2 and about $1000 To Start. This one pays $24,000 To Win over 2 nights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illtsate32 View Post
    No disrespect to anyone, but when we raced we went to race for the competition and glory. Money was secondary. i know racing for a living in this day and age is a different story, and a shame at that...
    15th place is neither glorious nor a way to pay the bills.

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    Actually The Chili Bowl draws more like 350 to 370 cars and sells out the 15,000 seats for what is now 6 nights. 85% of all the tickets sold are bought by people outside of the state of Oklahoma. It's not only the Super Bowl of midget racing, it's the Super Bowl of all dirt racing, with deference to The Knoxville Nationals.

    Reason being is that winning it will literally make a drivers' career that hasn't already made it and drivers such as Christopher Bell, Tony Stewart and Kyle Larson (if he ever wins it) that have made it want it on their resume' since it is a legacy maker. The guys that win The Chili Bowl don't give a fat rats ass about the money. Winning it put McCreadie, Donnie Beechler and Billy Boat, among others, on the map. Winning it was the reason McCreadie got a NASCAR ride. Same goes for Kevin Swindell X 4.

    Races such as The Chili Bowl and The Knoxville Nationals (the real one that's run in August) transcend money, although Knoxville is the largest winners payout for a yearly event in dirt racing, by far.

    Just for the record the promoter of The Chili Bowl is Emmett Hahn. He said at a question and answer session at The Zink Ranch last January during Chili Bowl week that the rental alone for the Expo Center building is over a quarter of a million. That doesn't include all the labor and equipment hire to build the track, erect and disassemble the stands, clean up following the conclusion or the insurance and security. Emmett and Co. know how to run a show the size of The Chili Bowl and they make a good buck doing it. Not everyone could pull that deal off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CIRF View Post
    Actually The Chili Bowl draws more like 350 to 370 cars and sells out the 15,000 seats for what is now 6 nights. 85% of all the tickets sold are bought by people outside of the state of Oklahoma. It's not only the Super Bowl of midget racing, it's the Super Bowl of all dirt racing, with deference to The Knoxville Nationals.

    Reason being is that winning it will literally make a drivers' career that hasn't already made it and drivers such as Christopher Bell, Tony Stewart and Kyle Larson (if he ever wins it) that have made it want it on their resume' since it is a legacy maker. The guys that win The Chili Bowl don't give a fat rats ass about the money. Winning it put McCreadie, Donnie Beechler and Billy Boat, among others, on the map. Winning it was the reason McCreadie got a NASCAR ride. Same goes for Kevin Swindell X 4.

    Races such as The Chili Bowl and The Knoxville Nationals (the real one that's run in August) transcend money, although Knoxville is the largest winners payout for a yearly event in dirt racing, by far.

    Just for the record the promoter of The Chili Bowl is Emmett Hahn. He said at a question and answer session at The Zink Ranch last January during Chili Bowl week that the rental alone for the Expo Center building is over a quarter of a million. That doesn't include all the labor and equipment hire to build the track, erect and disassemble the stands, clean up following the conclusion or the insurance and security. Emmett and Co. know how to run a show the size of The Chili Bowl and they make a good buck doing it. Not everyone could pull that deal off.
    didn't epj get over 200,000 at the million race? thats alittle more to win than Knoxville. if they r paying that much for rent those first few years they had too losesome major money

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