wide vs narrow xr1

[maypop racing engines]

thats my next idea is to put a 300 in rf try stiffing it up some all the way threw travel and i just got one of the swift 2.5-5 80lb springs for lr has anyone had any luck with it?

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

thats my next idea is to put a 300 in rf try stiffing it up some all the way threw travel and i just got one of the swift 2.5-5 80lb springs for lr has anyone had any luck with it?

If you need an 80# spring, it will serve you well. Nothing magic.

[CCHIEF]

Totally Agree MBR, with that I wouldn't use a single LR spring unless your bound to it by a rule (crates lates usually)

[maypop racing engines]

iv ran stacks on it and sucked lol im thinkin just use straight springs on all 4 corners and breaking out the scales and set it up like it was 2010 not sure if thats the answer or not but dont think it could be much worse

[Punisher88]

You ran a digressive stack?

[sidewinder69]

I can tell you for a fact there is a difference in early and late xr1s. I have felt it

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

I can tell you for a fact there is a difference in early and late xr1s. I have felt it

How many of each did you drive with shocks, components, and dynamic where loads all the same?

[sidewinder69]

I just pulled shocks off one and put on the other and back to back. Early xr1s are better

[96racing]

We don't have an XR-1 but I've heard of a couple local Super teams that went back to 16 cars because they didn't like the 18.

[CCHIEF]

Sooo, how are they better? Serious question! There are different cages, 4 bar plates, LR available drop, bar/s in frame, welded rack skid plate, custom options only some add or delete, etc, etc. If updates were or were not done, two of the same year could be very different, also depends how it was ordered, built, and components used. Track lore spreads as fast as a bad fart, is very situational and subjective. I see plenty of newer cars for sale with old components on them. The used racecar market is a venomous snake pit! Buyer beware!

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Sooo, how are they better? Serious question! There are different cages, 4 bar plates, LR available drop, bar/s in frame, welded rack skid plate, custom options only some add or delete, etc, etc. If updates were or were not done, two of the same year could be very different, also depends how it was ordered, built, and components used. Track lore spreads as fast as a bad fart, is very situational and subjective. I see plenty of newer cars for sale with old components on them. The used racecar market is a venomous snake pit! Buyer beware!

That snake pit extends to engines and lots of other racing items. You are right on with that comment. It's scary out there!

[President Clinton]

In case I made my post sound wrong: Slick or powdery stop and go tracks with an XR1 aren't great using something similar to the baseline set up. You will need to stray a fair ways from the base, in a couple area's but again really depends on the track, dirt, tires and rules.

The baseline is more for when you can momentum race, IMO.

Which areas needs to get away from baseline? Same problem happening but only on very small, paperclip track, that is very dry

[billetbirdcage]

I'm definitely not saying this will be 100% fix for everyone or every track and tire rule:

Adjusting the rear weight can/will help a lot of people in those conditions. OP said K cars run good there, now that could just be the teams but K cars (least last I knew a year ago) run about 2% more rear.

Again this could worsen your problem depending on the track, but if it's tight corners and more one lane then more rear may help a fair amount getting the car turned and off the corner.

[maypop racing engines]

mastersbilt, iv had a decent local guy drive my car (wide cage) he has a xr1 former house car (narrow) we put his shocks on and he said the car dont have the same feel as his does ....now hes confident the car is good there is just somthing missing somewhere but when he drove the track wasnt slick is the downfall

[grt74]

new cars travel more, some know how to work with it, some don't

[CCHIEF]

House cars are usually heavily optioned, some options don't make it to production or are impossible to change, result of them doing research for Their customers. Without getting into the details, swapping shocks from a 16 to a new car, or other direction, results in a big change in the car. ...Anyone wanting rid of one of the "junk" new chassis's, cheap .....please contact me via PM.

[maypop racing engines]

cchief tried sending you pm your inbox is full