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    Why didn't I understand the end game? I was wondering why so many vulnerable Dems so easily stuck their neck out. The impeachment will die in the house and won't be sent to the Senate for acquittal. This way Trump will never be cleared and the left can campaign that they are running against an impeached President. There are a lot of low info people in this Country who might buy into to it. Add to the large percentage of morons that make up the left, quite a ruse.

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    And not ONE Never Trumper voted for it...….hmmmmmm???

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    Default Trump Isn’t Impeached Until the House Tells the Senate

    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...-for-democrats

    Trump Isn’t Impeached Until the House Tells the Senate

    According to the Constitution, impeachment is a process, not a vote.

    Now that the House of Representatives has voted to impeach President Donald Trump, what is the constitutional status of the two articles of impeachment? Must they be transmitted to the Senate to trigger a trial, or could they be held back by the House until the Senate decides what the trial will look like, as Speaker Nancy Pelosi has hinted?

    The Constitution doesn’t say how fast the articles must go to the Senate. Some modest delay is not inconsistent with the Constitution, or how both chambers usually work.

    But an indefinite delay would pose a serious problem. Impeachment as contemplated by the Constitution does not consist merely of the vote by the House, but of the process of sending the articles to the Senate for trial. Both parts are necessary to make an impeachment under the Constitution: The House must actually send the articles and send managers to the Senate to prosecute the impeachment. And the Senate must actually hold a trial.

    If the House does not communicate its impeachment to the Senate, it hasn’t actually impeached the president. If the articles are not transmitted, Trump could legitimately say that he wasn’t truly impeached at all.

    That’s because “impeachment” under the Constitution means the House sending its approved articles of to the Senate, with House managers standing up in the Senate and saying the president is impeached.

    As for the headlines we saw after the House vote saying, “TRUMP IMPEACHED,” those are a media shorthand, not a technically correct legal statement. So far, the House has voted to impeach (future tense) Trump. He isn’t impeached (past tense) until the articles go to the Senate and the House members deliver the message.

    Once the articles are sent, the Senate has a constitutional duty to hold a trial on the impeachment charges presented. Failure for the Senate to hold a trial after impeachment would deviate from the Constitution’s clear expectation.

    For the House to vote “to impeach” without ever sending the articles of impeachment to the Senate for trial would also deviate from the constitutional protocol. It would mean that the president had not genuinely been impeached under the Constitution; and it would also deny the president the chance to defend himself in the Senate that the Constitution provides.

    The relevant constitutional provisions are brief. Article I gives the House “the sole power of impeachment.” And it gives the Senate “the sole power to try all impeachments.” Article II says that the president “shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”

    Putting these three different provisions together yields the conclusion that the only way to remove the president while he is in office is if the House impeaches him and the Senate tries and convicts him.

    The provisions say nothing about timing. Taken literally, they don’t directly say that articles of impeachment passed by the House must be sent to the Senate. But the framers’ definition of impeachment assumed that impeachment was a process, not just a House vote.

    The framers drafted the constitutional provisions against the backdrop of impeachment as it had been practiced in England, where the House of Commons impeached and the House of Lords tried the impeachments. The whole point of impeachment by the Commons was for the charges of impeachment to be brought against the accused in the House of Lords.

    Strictly speaking, “impeachment” occurred – and occurs -- when the articles of impeachment are presented to the Senate for trial. And at that point, the Senate is obliged by the Constitution to hold a trial.

    What would make that trial fair is a separate question, one that deserves its own discussion. But we can say with some confidence that only the Senate is empowered to judge the fairness of its own trial – that’s what the “sole power to try all impeachments” means.

    If the House votes to “impeach” but doesn’t send the articles to the Senate or send impeachment managers there to carry its message, it hasn’t directly violated the text of the Constitution. But the House would be acting against the implicit logic of the Constitution’s description of impeachment.

    A president who has been genuinely impeached must constitutionally have the opportunity to defend himself before the Senate. That’s built into the constitutional logic of impeachment, which demands a trial before removal.

    To be sure, if the House just never sends its articles of impeachment to the Senate, there can be no trial there. That’s what the “sole power to impeach” means.

    But if the House never sends the articles, then Trump could say with strong justification that he was never actually impeached. And that’s probably not the message Congressional Democrats are hoping to send.

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    Remember when the dems were criticizing trumps stupid comment about shooting someone in the middle of the street and getting away with it???? Well the dems are the ones layin in the street.....and he's gonna get away with it for 5 more years......fekking idiots.
    Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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    They have no one that can beat him.......and they hate it.

    Well here's an idea......get to work and find someone.
    Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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    I would think the Supreme Court will decide whether the Senate can proceed with or without delivery of the articles of impeachment. The Constitution is clear, the Senate trial determines guilt or innocents and Mitch McConnell sets the rules for the trial. The House has no part in that process. From what I have read, the Senate can proceed as they wish. The Senate job is to rule on the articles of impeachment not to retry the case. The democrat's know their impeachment is weak thus the delay.
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    How about that rerun of the Brady bunch last night at the dem debate???
    Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbecueboy View Post
    How about that rerun of the Brady bunch last night at the dem debate???
    Can you say CANIBALISM ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtMAN007 View Post
    Can you say CANIBALISM ?
    Dem debate. Hilarious. Mr Magoo is going to put thousands of people out of work in the coal/energy sector. They will lose their homes, but he will see to it that they get better new green deal jobs and bigger homes. LOL, this ad will run in Penn Ohio W. Virg Virginia and Trump won't even have to comment. Magoo says it all. TOOOO FUNNY. The lying Indian women said she is going to honor dead Transgenders, homos, Trans everything in the Rose garden every year. As I have said, you can't make this stuff up. LOSERS!!!!!!

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