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    Default LR Brake Floater?

    08 Mastersbilt, 602. The car has a LR brake floater. I am thinking of locking it. What are advantages of it. I see it keeping the car up on the bars when braking. Are they ran much or driver preference. I haven't driven this car yet to know.

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    up to the driver IMO. Thers more ways to keep a car up on the bars than a brake floater

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    RR also has option for on bird cage or clamped to axle. I think I am going clamped both sides.

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    we ran a lf rear floater for years , but after the newer trend of the soft rt frt and the bump or 2 stage stuff came out , we did not need it any more , if your chassis is not designed to run this set up , i would use it , it will help your car turn tremendously , the one we ran came from port city racing and was a bearing unit that jimmy owens helped them design , you also will need the most aggressive brake pad on lf rear you can get , we ran the brake bar at about the same angle as the upper 4 bar , just be sure it cant cam over , after we went to the soft rt front , we did not need it to promote rear steer , but im always trying stuff , so one night i decided to try it with the new set up and it did not work at all , it felt like it would try to bounce the whole car of the ground , its easy to switch back and forth so i would defiantly try it , especially with a crate engine....JMO.....

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    This car has the large hole brackets and I wasn't sure if I would like not having one hole for bar adjustment. I may leave everything set up so I can unlock it and try it. It is a bearing type floater.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ace1 View Post
    This car has the large hole brackets and I wasn't sure if I would like not having one hole for bar adjustment. I may leave everything set up so I can unlock it and try it. It is a bearing type floater.
    Once you get it in the correct hole, it isn't going to move anyway.
    Droop isn't the problem.

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    Thanks. I think I will leave it hooked up and try it. I don't know why I thought I was loosing one of the adjustment holes on the frame.

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    just remember what i said about the aggressive pad , that is very important and who ever was running it might not have known that ....

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    Iím not sure what is on it but the left look good. The right were wore out.

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    Be careful some of the " anti rumley " rule changes have outlawed brake floaters. We've never ran them so i can't comment otherwise

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jking24 View Post
    Be careful some of the " anti rumley " rule changes have outlawed brake floaters. We've never ran them so i can't comment otherwise
    I haven't run one since then. Not sure if you could argue it's not a part of the suspension, but an extra rod is probably gonna cause an argument at best.
    Droop isn't the problem.

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    I won't have to worry about that where I'm at. I could probably run one and get away with it. Once I find the position of the floater that works best, it will stay at that position when making bar changes, correct? I shouldn't move it with the top bar?

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    the last time we ran it , we were one hole up from the upper 4 bar , and about 1/2 inch longer than that bar , but you have to use some trial and era here because there is difference in chassis , but thats where i would start , one other thing to consider is dynamic load placed on the lft rear tire , this helps the car turn in easier so sometimes you dont need as much dynamic rear steer generated by the 4 bars , and not as much static bite , also , i kind of looked at it like a tractor with a left and right brake pedal , the static load placed on the left rear tire will plant that tire and help pull the front around , at any rate , its still a balancing act but on the older set ups , when you find that sweet spot , it is fast........

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    Thanks for the tips and suggestions. I will give it a go, play around with it some and see what happens. I'm getting out of a 04 GRT and into the 08 Mastersbilt. Should I expect a big difference in the cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ace1 View Post
    I won't have to worry about that where I'm at. I could probably run one and get away with it. Once I find the position of the floater that works best, it will stay at that position when making bar changes, correct? I shouldn't move it with the top bar?
    What I was trying to say before, is it is very rare to make bar changes period these days. Especially lr upper on frame.
    Droop isn't the problem.

    Arizona Speedway - 2 ........ Brushcreek -1
    Alltech -1 .................... Eldora - 8
    East Bay - 6 .................. Richmond -1
    Florence -1 ................. Lawrenceburg -1
    Atomic -6 .................. Circle City -1
    Tazewell -1 .................. Mudlick-1
    Moler -4
    Portsmouth -2. .....................Tyler Co. -1

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    Got it. Thanks

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