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  1. #1
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    Default Thornton got the shaft tonight

    Must have been a reason they didnít want to look at a replay

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    Rules state they go by transponder they checked the position and it was right on both cars therfore Sheppard won. Pretty straight forward

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    Heard bloomer was actually running big track tonight just testing can someone confirm or deny
    Always carrying my 2 Crown Jewels

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    Often the transponder cable is not buried under the track, right at the flag stand... Some tracks are 3-6 feet either way.
    Not sure if that is the case or not, but...

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    Eyeball test watching the cars showed Thornton winning

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    Terrible camera angle. The camera was well left of S/F line. If you are a national series and you have your own live video production there is no reason to not have a camera straight on at the finish line. Hell of a race. RTJ is a bad dude.

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    He frickin lost big deal but it happens to all eventually

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    Racing has always been first car to cross the start finish line. If you want to decide line ups on transponder thatís fine, but it should not decide the finish line. We have enough technology these days to get a photo finish and see who truly won.

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    How can you tell which car crosses the finish line first if you aren't looking straight at the line? Answer is YOU CAN'T. There is nothing wrong with using transponders. My point in saying that about the camera is people would likely not be questioning it now with the proper camera angle.

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    Eldora uses cameras,just saying

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    The angle on WoO highlight wasn't straight up. But even if the transponder cable is 3 feet, 6 feet or 12 feet before the finish line it still looks like RTJ won. I've seen that before and then you look at it straight up and the other guy ended up winning by a mile and your still like wtf lol

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    Thorton received the special WoW punishment tonight like Dennis Erb Jr. did earlier when he too was stripped of an obvious win !!! How sad.

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    from the 5th row? what happened to bobby?

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    Must have been a close race. Transponders are the best way to determine the winner. It is hard to draw a line for the start finish line and then use a camera to determine the winner. Transponders are just so much more accurate.

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    I have to wonder if there is some way to game the system...

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    Using transponders at line can be like the winner in ford vs Ferrari

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    Quote Originally Posted by EDERDS View Post
    Eyeball test watching the cars showed Thornton winning
    At the 3:41 mark - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-2cfwOwIoQ

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    Quote Originally Posted by lurker View Post
    No way to tell from that angle, flagstand is located down towards turn 1. Also appears that small track flagstand is on the inside and large track stand is on the outside. How timing cable is buried in relation to those two stands would mean a lot. Guess whoever buried it could answer that. Good to see the tin foil hat conspiracy nut jobs out in force.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WisWildManFan View Post
    Heard bloomer was actually running big track tonight just testing can someone confirm or deny
    Best thread comment in a while

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Daddy 37 View Post
    Often the transponder cable is not buried under the track, right at the flag stand... Some tracks are 3-6 feet either way.
    Not sure if that is the case or not, but...
    A few years back, Florence had something like happen. The cable wasnt exactly straight (at that time) and the win went the car that appeared to run 2nd by eye ball and video. I think it was Cody Mahoney and Jason Jameson if I remember right. Jameson was declared the winner because that how the transponders read.

    Florence later came out and said their transponder pick up cable was not exactly straight in line with the flagstand.

    You might be on to something here.

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