Experimenting With body and aero.

[TheJet-09]

I got to watch a few of the Florida races online, and the overhead or drone shots really gave a good look at how skewed the nose is on some of these things anymore. They look ridiculous, but I've always been a "form follows function" kind of guy anyway.

[Ltemodel]

We did shift the body over six inches to the right several years ago and it did seem to help a little.
One thing we did find which hurt us was cupping the right side door. Think about it this way, with a cupped door, air will push the car up on the right side top of the door.
The fastest way to run your right side door is to slant it out from the top to the bottom.
This will add downforce and traction.
Shifting the body right will also have another plus. It puts a bigger gap between the front of the left rear tire and the back of the left rear tire. This will create a vacuum and pull air out from under the deck. The spoiler width is the limiting factor that makes this happen. Just don't angle the left rear quarter to create a parachute-like function under the car.

[ZERO25]

With the lr's up in the clouds these days, how much of the aero load is the rr getting?

What happened to the theory that 2 pairs of equally loaded tires made more traction?

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

With the lr's up in the clouds these days, how much of the aero load is the rr getting?

What happened to the theory that 2 pairs of equally loaded tires made more traction?

The rr gets all the mechanical load. That watch spring rf don't take any.

[ZERO25]

Would it not be beneficial to get the rr up in the air, at least some?

[Punisher88]

Would it not be beneficial to get the rr up in the air, at least some?

Down the straightaway, yes.

[95shaw]

With the lr's up in the clouds these days, how much of the aero load is the rr getting?

What happened to the theory that 2 pairs of equally loaded tires made more traction?

Everyone gets hung up on loading the tires equally.
Ideal situation is for the tires to produce the correct amount of traction at the correct point in the corner.

For arguments sake, Set your car up with a single crazy wheel on the front.
Using loading on the tires on your solid, staggered axle to vary traction, complete a lap around the track.
Use the current theory of making the LR nearly solid thru loading of the bars and heavy compression on the shock.

Just food for thought.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Everyone gets hung up on loading the tires equally.
Ideal situation is for the tires to produce the correct amount of traction at the correct point in the corner.

For arguments sake, Set your car up with a single crazy wheel on the front.
Using loading on the tires on your solid, staggered axle to vary traction, complete a lap around the track.
Use the current theory of making the LR nearly solid thru loading of the bars and heavy compression on the shock.

Just food for thought.

I'm not going to argue about over damping LR, but the suspension is less rigid now than at anytime since big hike setups started

[95shaw]

Not going to argue that either.

The premise is that with both tires equally loaded on a staggered, solid axle, the car will turn toward the smaller tire, in an arc described by the difference in circumference and the distance between them.

To travel in a straight line, one of the tires must slip. Most likely the least loaded tire.

[ZERO25]

Not going to argue that either.

The premise is that with both tires equally loaded on a staggered, solid axle, the car will turn toward the smaller tire, in an arc described by the difference in circumference and the distance between them.

To travel in a straight line, one of the tires must slip. Most likely the least loaded tire.

Thats not the concept. Its two pair of equally loaded tires (lefts vs rights) makes more traction.

[95shaw]

Thats not the concept. Its two pair of equally loaded tires (lefts vs rights) makes more traction.

I don't see that happening anywhere on a lap with the current cars. Least of all in the corner, where the most traction is needed.

We know that to utilize our stagger to most effect, the rear tires must be equally loaded. We want that to happen in the corner.
At that point, g forces are high, removing weight from the lf thru the center of gravity. At some point in the corner, the lf extends to the end of travel, ie tether. The most weight on the lf occurs at turn in.
Not seeing spoiler in the air counteracting all of that.