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    Default Eckert busted for tires

    Failed tire tests from Ultimate series wins at Path Valley and Selingsgrove. Wins were given to Greg Satterlee who's been also caught in the past
    Last edited by NeedforLMspeed; 10-07-2020 at 12:21 PM.
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    Its a part of the game, when its 3 tenths or better a lap, you have to deal with it.

    I don't find or see any fault in either one of them.

    Just say no...

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    Thank goodness we got to find out today who won the race that was run a couple weeks ago....it's what makes dirt racing so exciting.

    I can see why the sport is so understood by the masses of fans that fill every track up........ridiculous.
    Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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    BBQ

    You are correct! These tire rules are ridiculous! 50k Chasis- 50k engines & every series wants to control the only thing that touches the track? These tire rules were suppose to cut cost & the testing was suppose to be for safety of dangerous chemicals. No series should have the power to limit the tire choices at different tracks. We all know that in the past some of the “well known drivers” have been able to get hoosier tires that were stamped differently than what they actually were. They don’t try to police 100k race cars- open the tire rule back up and let the drivers/crew chiefs gamble with their choices. With the present rules that are in place- the teams don’t have much choice or decision making to do.
    Maybe I am missing something here???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbecueboy View Post
    Thank goodness we got to find out today who won the race that was run a couple weeks ago....it's what makes dirt racing so exciting.

    I can see why the sport is so understood by the masses of fans that fill every track up........ridiculous.
    This one wasn’t weeks ago. It was two months ago.
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    Went through the courts I believe?
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    FASTRAK Companies International Statement on Disqualifications at Path Valley Speedway and Selinsgrove Speedway

    The winner of the ULTIMATE Northeast Super Late Model Series events at Path Valley Speedway on August 14 and Selinsgrove Speedway on August 15 has been disqualified because tire samples which were sampled from the winning race car did not conform to the applicable manufacturer’s supplied benchmarks. ULTIMATE Northeast’s policies on collecting and submitting tire samples to Blue Ridge Labs was followed each night of racing. According to ULTIMATE Northeast’s policies, Blue Ridge Labs received the sample in a sealed evidence bag and glass vile on August 19 and performed the tire analysis. ULTIMATE Northeast was notified of the samples not conforming to the manufacturer’s supplied benchmarks that afternoon and each sample underwent a duplicate scan that returned the same results.

    In order to further confirm the tire test results, FASTRAK Companies International, the parent company of ULTIMATE Northeast, requested that a full spectrum test be performed on the sample originally submitted to Blue Ridge Labs on August 19th. The results of that additional test were received on August 25 indicating eight chemicals present in the sample that should not be in the tire.

    During the tire testing protocol, ULTIMATE Northeast officials noticed that the tire sampled on August 14 and August 15 had the same date code as a prior failed tire test by another competitor. This prompted FASTRAK Companies International to launch an internal investigation to ensure all procedures were followed and there were no other issues with the tires with matching date codes.

    As part of the internal investigation, FASTRAK Companies International acquired a Hoosier 1325 with the same date code as the two prior non-conforming tires in order to send a sample for analysis. Samples from this tire were submitted to Blue Ridge Labs. Blue Ridge Labs confirmed that the tire acquired conformed to the manufacturer’s supplied benchmarks.

    At the conclusion of the investigation, FASTRAK Companies International determined that the tire on the winning race car did not conform to the manufacturer’s benchmarks and accordingly, the winner of the events at Path Valley Speedway and Selinsgrove Speedway was disqualified. Adjustment checks were sent to all competitors for both events on September 27 and points were also adjusted as a result of the disqualification. Updated standings are available at ne.ultimatesupers.com.

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    What were the eight chemicals?

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    Default Months ago??

    Well that makes the finish even more exciting then.........ridiculous.
    Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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    Default Special tires for certain racers???

    No way ......they would never do something as shady as that would they?

    One of the many reasons nobody trusts the process or the tire rule in general.
    Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by JabberJaws83 View Post
    What were the eight chemicals?
    Ketchup, hot dog juice, Crisco, shaquille o'neal sweat, dog slobber, shark blood, catfish slime, and tiger pee.

    That's just what I was told.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zyoung25 View Post
    Ketchup, hot dog juice, Crisco, shaquille o'neal sweat, dog slobber, shark blood, catfish slime, and tiger pee.

    That's just what I was told.
    Drove through all those in the pit area at two separate tracks also.
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    Them there fummy tars will get you everytime. A few guys haven't been nailed yet, they will... 😎

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    Quote Originally Posted by zyoung25 View Post
    Ketchup, hot dog juice, Crisco, shaquille o'neal sweat, dog slobber, shark blood, catfish slime, and tiger pee.

    That's just what I was told.
    Goat piss not tiger...

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    Two different teams with the with three tires with the same compound and same manufactured date codes have the same issues?
    Seems there is a whole lot more to this issue than what's being put out.
    Fastrak and these teams need to have these samples sent and confirmed by an outside independent lab and if confirmed the "chemicals"
    made public.
    Too many things not adding up....

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    In all seriousness, does any of it really ever add up with tires?
    Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by BloomerWon View Post
    Goat piss not tiger...
    I have used goat pee, it's not near as potent as tiger pee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zyoung25 View Post
    Ketchup, hot dog juice, Crisco, shaquille o'neal sweat, dog slobber, shark blood, catfish slime, and tiger pee.

    That's just what I was told.
    You beat me to it!!!! But I heard there was some special sauce in it too!!!
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    why does anyone care about this series in the northeast?

    car count show the drivers dont
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    FASTRAK Companies International Statement on Disqualifications at Path Valley Speedway and Selinsgrove Speedway

    The winner of the ULTIMATE Northeast Super Late Model Series events at Path Valley Speedway on August 14 and Selinsgrove Speedway on August 15 has been disqualified because tire samples which were sampled from the winning race car did not conform to the applicable manufacturer’s supplied benchmarks. ULTIMATE Northeast’s policies on collecting and submitting tire samples to Blue Ridge Labs was followed each night of racing. According to ULTIMATE Northeast’s policies, Blue Ridge Labs received the sample in a sealed evidence bag and glass vile on August 19 and performed the tire analysis. ULTIMATE Northeast was notified of the samples not conforming to the manufacturer’s supplied benchmarks that afternoon and each sample underwent a duplicate scan that returned the same results.

    In order to further confirm the tire test results, FASTRAK Companies International, the parent company of ULTIMATE Northeast, requested that a full spectrum test be performed on the sample originally submitted to Blue Ridge Labs on August 19th. The results of that additional test were received on August 25 indicating eight chemicals present in the sample that should not be in the tire.

    During the tire testing protocol, ULTIMATE Northeast officials noticed that the tire sampled on August 14 and August 15 had the same date code as a prior failed tire test by another competitor. This prompted FASTRAK Companies International to launch an internal investigation to ensure all procedures were followed and there were no other issues with the tires with matching date codes.

    As part of the internal investigation, FASTRAK Companies International acquired a Hoosier 1325 with the same date code as the two prior non-conforming tires in order to send a sample for analysis. Samples from this tire were submitted to Blue Ridge Labs. Blue Ridge Labs confirmed that the tire acquired conformed to the manufacturer’s supplied benchmarks.

    At the conclusion of the investigation, FASTRAK Companies International determined that the tire on the winning race car did not conform to the manufacturer’s benchmarks and accordingly, the winner of the events at Path Valley Speedway and Selinsgrove Speedway was disqualified. Adjustment checks were sent to all competitors for both events on September 27 and points were also adjusted as a result of the disqualification. Updated standings are available at ne.ultimatesupers.com.


    Who knows if the benchmarks are legitimate?

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