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    Thumbs up What happen at Hartwell Speedway last night? Heard a person passed away. Prayers.

    From Dennis Erb Jr's Facebook page.


    What happen at Hartwell Speedway last night? Heard a person passed away.


    PRAYERS TO ALL INVOLVED.

    Found news article - https://www.foxcarolina.com/coroner-...Dwy0dag55Ok-f0
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    Nathan Stephens: Hobart (Northwest), Indiana.

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    Hopefully not Paul Ballinger from Bloomington.
    Prayers to all involved.
    8/13/16

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    Sorry to hear this. My condolences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BloomerWon View Post
    Sorry to hear this. My condolences.
    This. Awful story. I hate to here this.

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    Prayers for the family.

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    I am amazed that you dont read about this happening every week at some track across the country. Safety is a total joke at most of these dirt tracks.

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    Thoughts And Prayers to the family

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtSLMracing View Post
    I am amazed that you dont read about this happening every week at some track across the country. Safety is a total joke at most of these dirt tracks.
    4m post of the year! Amen!

    I wonder how some of these insurance companies sign off on some of these 'catch fences'

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirty-white-boy View Post
    4m post of the year! Amen!

    I wonder how some of these insurance companies sign off on some of these 'catch fences'
    I will provide an example. Track not too far from me has a wall with a chain link fence on top. Seen many times people standing right at the fence even holding onto it at times. Do they think this fence will stop a 2300 lb race car from not moving that fence even a foot? Best hope is the fence gives but stop the car at that point.

    Link I provided shows a group standing at the fence at the .18 mark. Imagine two late models coming off the turn and getting together getting up into that fence where that group is standing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXHYuvafwCg&t=32s

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    Dude not the time or place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtSLMracing View Post
    I am amazed that you dont read about this happening every week at some track across the country. Safety is a total joke at most of these dirt tracks.
    If only the Feds could set them straight! (Sarcasm)
    Droop isn't the problem.

    Arizona Speedway - 2 ........ Brushcreek -1
    Alltech -1 .................... Eldora - 8
    East Bay - 6 .................. Richmond -1
    Florence -1 ................. Lawrenceburg -1
    Atomic -6 .................. Circle City -1
    Tazewell -1 .................. Mudlick-1
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    Portsmouth -3 .....................Tyler Co. -1

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtcrazy4u View Post
    Dude not the time or place.
    Not the time or place for what?

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    if this isn't the time to talk about safety , when is? after the next accident that takes a life?

    if this isn't the place to talk about racing related topics , where is?
    The Stranger: Somebody left the door open and the wrong dogs came home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 153J View Post
    if this isn't the time to talk about safety , when is? after the next accident that takes a life?

    if this isn't the place to talk about racing related topics , where is?
    Without details, there is nothing to discuss.
    Droop isn't the problem.

    Arizona Speedway - 2 ........ Brushcreek -1
    Alltech -1 .................... Eldora - 8
    East Bay - 6 .................. Richmond -1
    Florence -1 ................. Lawrenceburg -1
    Atomic -6 .................. Circle City -1
    Tazewell -1 .................. Mudlick-1
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
    Without details, there is nothing to discuss.
    I have no idea what happened at Hartwell and my post was not blaming anyone there. I was making a point that nearly all dirt tracks are lax in safety. Owners or promoters need to walk around during the race and just look at potential problems. Maybe more lights in a certain area, restrict people from certain areas, keep people back from fences,.. just try to get out in front of something before it happens. Sometimes stuff just happens and nothing could have prevented it, I am aware of that.

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    No different than the backstretch at Peoria or turns 3 and 4 at Farmer City.
    8/13/16

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
    Without details, there is nothing to discuss.
    I respectfully disagree , there is always something to discuss when it comes to safety at a race track , whether dirt or pavement , circle or drag , competitor or fan ... something can always be discussed

    and , the details are out there just gotta search for them
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    Quote Originally Posted by 153J View Post
    I respectfully disagree , there is always something to discuss when it comes to safety at a race track , whether dirt or pavement , circle or drag , competitor or fan ... something can always be discussed

    and , the details are out there just gotta search for them
    The motivation for my comments.

    1). There is no details for this tragedy in this thread.

    2). Historically, in the rare event that there is a tragedy in DLM racing, racers are not given information about the accident with which they can improve their own program or learn something. Instead, they are forced to buy new, more expensive safety equipment with the correct sticker on it.
    Droop isn't the problem.

    Arizona Speedway - 2 ........ Brushcreek -1
    Alltech -1 .................... Eldora - 8
    East Bay - 6 .................. Richmond -1
    Florence -1 ................. Lawrenceburg -1
    Atomic -6 .................. Circle City -1
    Tazewell -1 .................. Mudlick-1
    Moler -4
    Portsmouth -3 .....................Tyler Co. -1

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
    The motivation for my comments.

    1). There is no details for this tragedy in this thread.

    2). Historically, in the rare event that there is a tragedy in DLM racing, racers are not given information about the accident with which they can improve their own program or learn something. Instead, they are forced to buy new, more expensive safety equipment with the correct sticker on it.
    There are details in the news article. A car crashes into the infield barrier, climbed it, and went through the chain link fence. Three spectators were then hit by the car.

    Between those details and viewing videos of races at that track, there is plenty of detail.

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