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    Quote Originally Posted by Pennsboro32 View Post
    I think whoever thought that is a moron.
    Maybe he however was not that far off base after all given the fact that Overton won and EPJ landed in 4th at tonights event and old Larsy came in dead last ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raceready View Post
    Maybe he however was not that far off base after all given the fact that Overton won and EPJ landed in 4th at tonights event and old Larsy came in dead last ?
    So why would MavTV want a car sponsored by Flo Racing to win?

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    I will have to ask him ... He will probably say "Try as they might they still can't stop a Longhorn from winning " ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raceready View Post
    Maybe he however was not that far off base after all given the fact that Overton won and EPJ landed in 4th at tonights event and old Larsy came in dead last ?
    Why would they not want the car that LUCAS on the nose up front and on camera?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zyoung25 View Post
    Why would they not want the car that LUCAS on the nose up front and on camera?
    Raceready not only is failing to make his point but he doesn't even know what the point is he is trying to make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtSLMracing View Post
    Raceready not only is failing to make his point but he doesn't even know what the point is he is trying to make.
    You may or may not be correct ! ! ! !

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    Overton doesn't claim ignorance or a broken part in his description of what happened. Like I said, there is more lying in racing than fishing.

    If you read the DoD article, Francis basically says he isn't gonna say much about what was wrong cause they got this stupid rule that's a lot more than how far the lr falls down. He doesn't wanna give away any secrets describing the test failure.

    So, he had a shorter rr shock or one with too much rebound, something like that. You get the rr down, the car doesn't lift as far to get the lr off the ground.

    I'd have to rebuild the rear clip on our cars to run with those guys.
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    Sounds like tire testing 101. Bust a guy for flunking out on a tire test, but lets not tell what was in the tire that made it fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zyoung25 View Post
    Sounds like tire testing 101. Bust a guy for flunking out on a tire test, but lets not tell what was in the tire that made it fail.
    The teams that failed were told what failed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtSLMracing View Post
    The teams that failed were told what failed.
    Which group? Last night? Or "doesn't meet benchmark"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
    Which group? Last night? Or "doesn't meet benchmark"?
    Any team that fails tech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtSLMracing View Post
    Any team that fails tech.
    Those guys with tires said all they was told was that their spectrum was wrong.

    Droop rule is just a measurement. I doubt they tell you how to fix it, just how bad you were. You still frame a pic of overton car and measure everything, his lr is very close to same drop out as our car, but we'd fail by 4".
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtSLMracing View Post
    The teams that failed were told what failed.
    Bobby Pierce, Zack Dohm, and Jason Feger are 3 that were never told what made their tires fail. None of the guys from "tire gate" were ever told what made their tires fail. Unless something has changed, thats nearly 10 guys that didnt know.

    Failing to meet benchmark doesn't tell anyone anything.

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    Tire rule, lol………
    Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
    Overton doesn't claim ignorance or a broken part in his description of what happened. Like I said, there is more lying in racing than fishing.

    If you read the DoD article, Francis basically says he isn't gonna say much about what was wrong cause they got this stupid rule that's a lot more than how far the lr falls down. He doesn't wanna give away any secrets describing the test failure.

    So, he had a shorter rr shock or one with too much rebound, something like that. You get the rr down, the car doesn't lift as far to get the lr off the ground.

    I'd have to rebuild the rear clip on our cars to run with those guys.
    Doesn't sound much different than chaining the RR, which I do frequently.

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    It's funny, you have all this engineered rear suspension on these cars, 4 -bars, and shocks of different manufactures with the different options for valving. It's now all control by a pc of chain and this droop rule. Do I understand it, basically yes, do I care ? Not one bit because my days of laying under a car are over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjsracing View Post
    Doesn't sound much different than chaining the RR, which I do frequently.
    For those guys, it's not an option anymore.
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    The funniest part about this rule is the guys in charge act like they are doing it to keep costs down. All it’s gonna do is make people spend money to engineer stuff to try and beat the measurement. Two of the easiest things to do to make your car faster are add drop and raise your spoiler up, and they both don’t cost a dime

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    If they wanted to cut costs, they'd take downforce out of the cars. They wouldn't be obsoleting parts every winter. They just want spec cars. They don't give a crap about cost.
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    well said mastersbiult , very simple and correct assumption .......

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