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    Default Purple Mafia at it AGAIN!

    $20.00 price increase across the board. Sprints, late models, modifieds. THIS is out of hand!!

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    Not sure if you follow the news but inflation is running rampant right now. I priced some farm tires yesterday and was shocked at the price they quoted me.

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    ^ ^ ^
    This!!!!!!!
    8/13/16

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    When you’re already overpriced it just looks worse when you go up like everything else.
    Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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    Who is the Purple Mafia?

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    Hoosier. Keep up

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    Hoosier Tire - a company based on backdoor dealings AKA Purple Mafia. Would be nice if a good honest company like American Racer would be the tire of choice across America but Hoosier is too big to fail, which is why they charge whatever they want for a bad product. By and large AR's are cheaper and last longer but they don't have the foot hold on multiple disciplines of racing like Hoosier does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lm1 View Post
    hoosier tire - a company based on backdoor dealings aka purple mafia. Would be nice if a good honest company like american racer would be the tire of choice across america but hoosier is too big to fail, which is why they charge whatever they want for a bad product. By and large ar's are cheaper and last longer but they don't have the foot hold on multiple disciplines of racing like hoosier does.
    lol lol lol lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jed View Post
    Not sure if you follow the news but inflation is running rampant right now. I priced some farm tires yesterday and was shocked at the price they quoted me.
    Inflation is bad, but 36% in 8 months?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knowitall93w View Post
    Hoosier. Keep up
    10-4.. I figured that someone had given that nickname to Flo or Dirt on Dirt.

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    So what is the price of a late model tire now verse 5 years ago?

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    In addition to inflation...

    anyone else remember that part of Middle School Economics called Supply and Demand?

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    Was at the local speed shop the other day and the owner told me that Hoosier is now charging them a flat $20 per tire for shipping. Used to be only a few bucks for one or a whole truck load. Stopped making our favorite Dirt Bozz tires and a G60 IMCA tire is now $140. A 10" RC4 is right at $200. Good grief!!!

    P.S. Our electric company, the notorious PG&E, got a 9% rate increase in January and another 12% last month. For the math dummies that's 21% in 3 months.
    Last edited by over4T; 04-01-2022 at 11:05 AM. Reason: additional stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtSLMracing View Post
    So what is the price of a late model tire now verse 5 years ago?
    Depends on what tire your talking but I would say 5 years ago most where under or at 150.00 (130.00 to 150.00 range for most)


    Middle of last year a crate 21 tire was 160ish and now 235.00


    The biggest issue is even getting tires, Good luck on that one if you not a national series regular. Best you gonna do right now is go to track and hope the sanctioning body has tires and even then your limited to only a few tires.
    Last edited by billetbirdcage; 04-01-2022 at 11:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flagone View Post
    In addition to inflation...

    anyone else remember that part of Middle School Economics called Supply and Demand?
    I believe the real problem lies with those 81 million.... inc some dead ones!......just sayin!

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    Zero25

    Excellent observation!

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    Heres the whole story:


    USAC excludes penalty after testing tires at three labs; Team pulls out
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    A very unique situation after four tires failed initial testing
    Back in February, the USAC National Sprint Car Series opened their 2022 season. Three straight nights of racing took place at Bubba Raceway Park.

    Emerson Axsom drove to victory lane in two of the races. Justin Grant picked up the other win. As the teams loaded up, tire samples were collected.

    USAC collected four samples throughout the opening weekend, all four samples failed the initial test.

    On March 23, USAC announced that due to the unprecedented situation of four of four samples failing, that the were exploring a resolution. They began to seek further analysis.


    Yesterday, USAC announced that the tire samples were sent to two additional labs. They also sent another sample back to the initial testing lab. The one that failed originally, failed again. Meanwhile, the same samples sent to the other two labs came back with tests that conformed to the brenchmark.

    USAC excludes penalty after testing tire samples at three labs
    USAC released the following update:

    “Officials of the United States Auto Club released information on Thursday, March 31, relating to extensive tire analysis following the testing of tire samples following a USAC National Sprint Car event in Ocala, Florida in February.”

    “Routine post-race tire samples were taken by USAC officials, following all protocols in securing samples and submitting for lab analysis. The initial testing resulted in all four samples, from four unique race teams, being returned as “not meeting the benchmark,” which is a measurement versus the original manufacturing date code of the tire samples taken.”

    “Additionally, those traits found to have not met the manufacturer benchmark were not those typically found in tires which have proven to be altered from the manufacturer specification for the purpose of competitive advantage.”

    “The analysis of the original results not meeting the benchmark, as well as having an atypical pattern of all samples failing the benchmark in an identical manner, resulted in USAC requesting extensive additional testing and analysis being completed to verify initial testing results.”


    Tests at additional labs
    “Tire samples which failed the original test, along with the original benchmark samples, were sent to three prominent testing labs, including the original testing lab, for further analysis. While the known failed sample again failed at the original testing lab, this same tire sample was tested during the same time window at two additional labs and both labs deemed the samples as not altered from the factory specifications.”

    “After receiving guidance from the two alternative testing labs that these samples met benchmarks, specific instruction was given to both labs to retest in an attempt to identify a specific chemical trait that was prominent in both the initial failed test and retest by the original lab. With the specific chemical trait as their guide, both alternative labs reported they could not find this chemical trait that prompted the original failed test.”

    Beyond testing labs, USAC also sent the tire to one of the tire manufactures.

    “Additionally, based on the professional opinions of the two additional testing facilities, the tire samples presented were not deemed to be chemically-altered from the manufacturer benchmark. A third-party executive professional compounder from one of the world’s largest tire manufacturers reviewed all results and concurred with the end analysis.”

    USAC excludes tire penalty
    “USAC takes any alteration of specified tires as an attempt to gain an unfair advantage and a serious rule violation. Penalties associated with treating tires to gain an advantage are severe, including a first offense of a six-race suspension and a $2500 fine in addition to lost purse money and points.”

    “Based on the unprecedented four initial failed tests, USAC spent considerable time and resources to assure a fair review and due process was completed to protect the integrity of the series, competition officials and teams competing for the Sprint Car National Championship.”

    “Results from all completed National Sprint Car events are upheld, and all parties remain in good standing going forward to this Saturday’s event at Lawrenceburg (Ind.) Speedway, where stringent ongoing testing will continue to ensure fair competition.”


    “In the event of a similar test result with the same abnormal chemicals detected, the same measures will be followed to confirm those results are accurate.”

    “To assure full transparency of the process that USAC underwent to complete the entire analysis, a team owner meeting will be held on Monday, April 4, at 3:00pm Eastern at the USAC office in Speedway, Indiana. Licensed USAC National Sprint Car series team owners are invited.”

    Keith Kunz pulls cars for USAC Sprints
    Shortly after USAC’s announcement, Keith Kunz commented:

    “After waiting for a decision on this we at KKM have decided that we will not compete in the USAC sprint car series going forward,” the team owner stated via twitter.


    He further clarified, “KKM will still be competing in the USAC Midget Series, just not the sprint series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flagone View Post
    In addition to inflation...

    anyone else remember that part of Middle School Economics called Supply and Demand?
    Other than a toilet paper type hoarding scenario, there are less DLM now and they aren't allowed to use as many tires, as say 10 years ago. But, based on some info I've gotten, pretty sure the TP analogy applies...
    Last edited by MasterSbilt_Racer; 04-01-2022 at 06:02 PM.
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    I am sure that there have been teams hoarding them. But I also know that they have sold more tires each year for the last 4 than ever before. Maybe less Supers but there are still a crap ton limiteds, 604 crates, 602 crates and other tpes of cars using spec and/or open tires. There are also more races every year than ever before ie no off season. It is a whole big mess that has several contributing causes.

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    It'd definitely help if every series went to a strict 2 tires only across all series. All it would take is Hoosier stepping up and just telling them that's how it's going to be until everything can calm down. But apparently they don't want to either.

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