Unions and credibility

[kidrock]

You were a very sick person for believing what Alex Jones did to those families

[kidrock]

Sure they don't, sure they don't hahahahahaa

Oh I see you worked there so you know Dumb azz

[Buford.Justice]

Oh I see you worked there so you know Dumb azz

Come on, get a clue!!!!

[kidrock]

Come on, get a clue!!!!

Alex do you work in the district my wife works in. I didn't think so. I'm telling you it had nothing to do with control. I can't help you were lied to by the right wing media.

[Buford.Justice]

You just can't be wrong can you? Even when you are? I get it, children will play!!!

Ministry of Retards show up yet??

[kidrock]

Yes I have been wrong at times and I'm not afraid to admit it but, you keep saying something about the district my wife works in that is simply not true. plus you can't even say what Alex Jones did to those families was just plain wrong even when he knew it was wrong.

Go to the dirt late Model section where I admitted to Mastersbilt Racer where I said I was wrong when he said Sheppard would go to Long Horns and when I said I was wrong when zero said Bloomer would win 5 races last year and I agreed with him.

[Barbecueboy]

Well I am proud of the union I worked for. I didn't need to vote for you to know that because my signature says it all.

I guess they don't mind unions either or they would have said so or like I said not to many cared enough to vote besides the usual cast of characters. Maybe others don't care that their neighbors work for a union. I know I sure don't.

More power to them if they can get better pay and benefits I'm not sure who wouldn't want that. I don't know of anyone who wouldn't take more money or benefits if they can get it not even non union employees.

Don't like unions don't work for one it's that simple.

I take it a step further and try to shop, and purchase from non union sources when and where possible…..……nobody questions the union money grab, everyone questions the work ethic and poor quality and the dumbing down of the work force they produce today.

Years ago, look for that union made in America label meant something to be proud of…..today, in a whole bunch of cases it means to look for the label to avoid overpriced mediocrity.

We can go round and round about the poll, and what can be drawn about the lack of support for the union…..you mentioned the normal cast of characters voted, not true.

You didn’t…SS didn’t….nor did anyone else that were union employees that frequent these threads……not a single pro union vote.

[dirtMAN007]

He just doesn’t understand ! Can’t you dumb it down anymore for him ?

[kidrock]

The work ethic. You have to be kidding right. You think non union people have a better work ethic then union people. That's laughable. You have people who are unethical no matter if they work for a union or not. You have lazy people no matter if they work in a union or not. You have people who steal no matter if they work in a union or not. It's just nonsense to say otherwise.

I don't care if the product is made by union employees or not. If I like the product I will buy it.

as far as the same Characters, It was you, Alex, Dirtman, Raceready lurker and formercrewguy. I don't see any names that we don't see on here for the most part.

[dirtMAN007]

The work ethic. You have to be kidding right. You think non union people have a better work ethic then union people. That's laughable. You have people who are unethical no matter if they work for a union or not. You have lazy people no matter if they work in a union or not. You have people who steal no matter if they work in a union or not. It's just nonsense to say otherwise.

I don't care if the product is made by union employees or not. If I like the product I will buy it.

as far as the same Characters, It was you, Alex, Dirtman, Raceready lurker and formercrewguy. I don't see any names that we don't see on here for the most part.

Once again retard it’s not who DID vote , it’s who didn’t that is telling !!!!!!!!!

[kidrock]

Alex it's more telling that people don't care about this topic.

[Buford.Justice]

Alex Jones didn't do anything to those families, you idiot!!!!

[kidrock]

Alex Jones spent years accusing family members of the victims they were hoaxes and suggesting their family members were still alive you f-----g idiot and you believed it. How would you feel if that was your family member

[Buford.Justice]

Alex Jones spent years accusing family members of the victims they were hoaxes and suggesting their family members were still alive you f-----g idiot and you believed it. How would you feel if that was your family member

Cry me a river, then jump in it!!!! Alex is coming for you and your family, be very scared!!!

Take my advice, crawl back under your rock!!! hahahahhaa

A bunch of clowns are lying about much worse things and serious issues on TV and you give them all a pass.. But let Jones make a mistake and you appear like a pile of dog poop, right on the front porch!!!!

[kidrock]

Cry me a river, then jump in it!!!! Alex is coming for you and your family, be very scared!!!

Take my advice, crawl back under your rock!!! hahahahhaa

A bunch of clowns are lying about much worse things and serious issues on TV and you give them all a pass.. But let Jones make a mistake and you appear like a pile of dog poop, right on the front porch!!!!

A mistake my azz. He did it in the name of profit and you believed his big mistake. You should be ashamed of yourself for believing his lies and sticking up for him. Then he goes and files bankruptcy so, he doesn't have to pay them. What a big loser he is.

[Buford.Justice]

A mistake my azz. He did it in the name of profit and you believed his big mistake. You should be ashamed of yourself for believing his lies and sticking up for him. Then he goes and files bankruptcy so, he doesn't have to pay them. What a big loser he is.

Have don't have a clue of the real facts. But that doesn't stop you from hating over learning. Been a life long problem hasn't it?

Oops you wouldn't even know!!!

[kidrock]

Have don't have a clue of the real facts. But that doesn't stop you from hating over learning. Been a life long problem hasn't it?

Oops you wouldn't even know!!!

I'm going to ask you one question. Was Sandy Hook a HOAX?

[dirtMAN007]

I'm going to ask you one question. Was Sandy Hook a HOAX?

One question……is SERIOUSLY STUPIDS old lady back from Florida ?

[Morgs153]

Kidrock wrote:

"My wife has worked in schools for 32 years and with the pandemic it wasn't just the teachers who were concerned. The Administration was also concerned because, of shortages in teachers, subs plus just regular staff personal. When the pandemic first hit no one was sure who the virus was going to affect more older people or younger people so, the schools were face with a difficult decision to go remote or not. they were already in the process instead of having to make snow days up go remote on those days the pandemic just advanced that process. They were afraid they wouldn't even have enough staff to have school so, they made the difficult decision to go remote.

We can go around and second guess everything now that we know more but, at the time no one wanted to take a chance of getting people really sick or even worse they die from it. "

For some reason I had to copy and paste your post. Reply with quote didn't work for me.

Anyway kidrock, I can appreciate your wife's personal experience in the matter. I'll agree that very early on there were many unknowns and they were often making decisions based on the side of safety. All the factors you cite, as far as the unknowns of the illness and the labor issues were all present across the board. Health care workers, firefighters, first responders, police officers, jailers, prison guards, many retail workers, food supply workers, farmers, ranchers, construction workers, public works employees, etc., they all kept working. A whole lot of folks kept it up day to day. My wife works in health care, she had to go everyday throughout this ordeal and deal with minimal staff issues and and a revolving door of sick co-workers.

Now I understand the argument that the often very healthy kids could catch it, take it home, and pass it on to a parent or grandparent in the family unit. Same thing could be said for almost anyone else I listed. Virus gonna virus. My problem wasn't when they were early on in this with the - fifteen days to slow the spread mode. My problem with the teachers unions in many places was their reluctance to return once we did know much more about it and they still wanted to stay home. Chicago comes to mind on this one along with some other large size school districts.

One of the big problems I always have with teachers unions is how they always try to sell their side of the argument as - it is for the children. No it isn't. It is for their membership and I get it, a union is supposed to stick up for their membership. Just like their constant squawking about smaller class sizes. Smaller class sizes means hiring more dues paying union teachers, it doesn't necessarily equate to brighter kids. Parochial, private, and charter schools blow that argument out of the water consistently.

Good discussion.

[kidrock]

Morgs Like I said they had to make a very difficult decision. I understand about those you mentioned had to go to work. I never stopped working during the whole pandemic but, when it comes to kids and staff they had to take everyone into consideration. My wife just got a new job last summer and she is the secretary for Superintendent of schools and he did not want to go remote learning but, he had to much pressure from a lot of parents who was not going to send their kids to school. Plus the Governor mandated schools be closed so, he had no choice but, to go remote learning.

Now as far as the teachers union wanting more members paying dues. One thing I need to point out is kids going to private and charter schools don't usually come from a broken home. and in private schools you have kids who do and usually those kids disrupt the classes all day long. Schools can't discipline kids like they used to so, they want smaller class size to be able to try and control their classes. My wife comes home all the time and tells me stories of what kids do and I'm like no wonder you can't find teachers because most of their time is spent being a social worker. So it's not always about wanting more members paying dues but, I won't dispute that might go on