It's criminal

[Tireguy17]

Point fund comparison

2022
Champion $150K, 2nd $75K, 3rd $50K

2023
Champion $200K, 2nd $150K, 3rd $125K, 4th $100K

That's why drivers/teams signed up for the format....Better money overall.

[Patansplant]

Thanks for helping me understand how the championship is decided. RTJ deserves it for sure.

[ImCryn2]

Point fund comparison

2022
Champion $150K, 2nd $75K, 3rd $50K

2023
Champion $200K, 2nd $150K, 3rd $125K, 4th $100K

That's why drivers/teams signed up for the format....Better money overall.

Yep more money makes everything better...... (until it doesn't). That mentality has got this country all the way to the crapper! I hope Ricky does win, but if he doesn't I hope his sponsor (BRS) chokes on the money they threw around. IMO if you have to change a format to have an exciting championship battle, your on track product sucks.

[kidrock]

I can't fault Lucas for trying to make things more exciting for the Championship and they could not foresee that RTJ or anyone else would not dominate like this but, that being said maybe they should have a 4 race points battle instead of 1 race wins it all. I'm not for 1 race wins it all. Keep it the way it was. RTJ deserves this Championship or at least at this point.

[Henry Every]

Why do dirt series keep trying to emulate napcar? This isn't the 80's or the 90's when napcar was strong and growing, this is the time of decline and stupidity. I think, that most organizations that achieve a high level of success believe they can do anything and the public will support it, never giving any thought or circumspect of the past. Then when things fail they blame the public for losing interest in it, never able to admit their own missteps or considering going back. A smart promoter gives the public what it wants, not what they think they should want. Not many true leaders around anymore, no true promoters, just managers without a creative mind or understanding of tradition or history. Their rules today show their ignorance of history and what works and what doesn't, they are blind to their own destruction. Like a coke head that craves only the next high, they ignore the destruction their decisions and actions are creating in their lives and those around them. Its the same with the current leaders of DLM(WoO/Lucas), they see these lightning fast cars that require an engineer, a full time crew and a diagnostic lab on wheels to manage and maintain as a plus, as having achieved the next level(the high). Sadly they ignore the cost, the rot in the roots of the tree and soon when the right storm comes along their tree will topple, collapsing under its own weight. Experience and age are a blessing, it allows you the wider view that younger less experienced people aren't able to see. Wasn't that long ago(to me) that 604 crate was going to save the show, it was going to be the everyman class, but they didn't have the draw that supers have. So then they jacked the purses up to match a super payout and invited those elite teams to come and play in what was billed as the smaller pond. Soon all the tech and dollars and experience flowed into crate 604 and pushed those smaller fish out of the pond supposedly created for them. Now in my area there isn't even a weekly 604 class, they all dropped to 602 or they quit. Whats next? Whats cheaper than 602? How low must we go? My point is, it seems the people at the top are completely out of touch with actual racers and racing? They right rules that make no sense and ignore enforcing the rules that do matter. Bottom line is the cars have too much traction which demands greater horsepower and no amount of gimmicks like, lucky dogs and cute little point reshufflings and whatever other silliness they contrive even glances at the real issues. I'm a big believer in boycotts and the loss of money is the only thing they listen to. The racers have the power, so too the fans, if you don't like something, vote with your dollars and they will listen. JMO

[84wedge]

maybe they should have a 4 race points battle instead of 1 race wins it all.

Or even better, every race could be a points battle to get the average of who performs better at the most tracks!

[kidrock]

When Nascar was at it highest they had fans that weren't really race fans but, everyone liked Nascar so, they thought well if everyone else likes it why not. They have weeded out those fans and have pissed some off and have left but, they still have a decent following. I still enjoy Nascar but, I watch more than just the race itself.

[raburke23]

Listen, I am an RTJ fan, but you mean to tell me a guy who had 6 national touring wins in his career before this year all the sudden has 21 wins and the most dominating national touring season of all time? C'mon, we are all smarter than that. RTJ is good, but he doesn't stack up with our sports greats over time. They've obviously stumbled on something that works or something that isn't getting 'caught' because with the talent of today, no one should be winning that many touring races.
And for the record, I like the anticipation and format for crowing the champ.

[84wedge]

I've noticed since that Bloomquist podcast in comments all around that everyone is starting to say RTJ isn't that great and he must be cheating.

[gumby_32d]

Let's run the race first. Then we can go on about RTJ getting screwed. We shouldn't write Davenport the check so soon.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Let's run the race first. Then we can go on about RTJ getting screwed. We shouldn't write Davenport the check so soon.

It shouldn't even be a point of discussion. The result doesn't fix it.

[84wedge]

What was wrong with the points championship being the way it was? Why was this new rule put in place at the same time they switch the DTWC to a track only a small handful of people can win at?

[klemmabyna]

It shouldn't even be a point of discussion. The result doesn't fix it.

Thornton is my Lucas champion regardless of who wins this format. The bad part is someone else may get the champion's check.

[Raceready]

[QUOTE=84wedge;2469690]I've noticed since that Bloomquist podcast in comments all around that everyone is starting to say RTJ isn't that great and he must be cheating.[/

[foxfire2dirtracing]

2 things worth noting:
1. Big River Steel wanted this new championship format
2. Only 1 time in Lucas Oul history has the Championship not been determined before the DTWC.

I am not necessarily a fan of the 1 race deal between the top 4 to determine the Champ- but the one time it wasn’t determined before the last race: it was interesting to watch a race within a race. There were 3 drivers who had a mathematical chance and as terrible as Portsmouth 100 lapped are- the show was interesting.
Again- a race within a race.
Lucas Director said if it doesn’t work- they can revert or fine tune. Like posted above -I don’t think they expected anyone would completely dominate like RTJ has.
As for myself I am very much looking forward to the DTWC.

Henry Every- post #25: Very good post and some very good thoughts you posted. Thank you!

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Thornton is my Lucas champion regardless of who wins this format. The bad part is someone else may get the champion's check.

Jeff Gordon has 7 championship by my count too, but nobody cares.

[nikrcos]

The situation with RTJ is truly perplexing, especially considering the massive points lead and tour winnings. The DTWC twist at Eldora adds an element of uncertainty, and if he doesn't emerge victorious, it could leave the Lucas Oil brass with the challenging task of portraying a seemingly inferior car and driver as the pinnacle of the world's greatest LM series. It's akin to a high-stakes gamble at the Black Diamond Casino Mobile Login.

[ImCryn2]

Ricky outperformed the competition all year, he's the champion. Everyone started the year with zero points and he has whooped them. He has earned the point lead he has and if he locks it up with 10 races left, the competition needs to step up. Taking away what he has earned and giving it to others is welfare. No other way to put it.

[SLlDlNG SIDEWAYS]

Is Lucas trying to screw Ricky because bloomer thinks he's cheating even tho they don't know how?

[TS FAN]

It is a show. Never forget that. A SHOW!!!! Add some drama. They all knew the format when they decided to follow the series.

Sports has playoffs to determine the champion for that year. That is the way it is. So complaining is not going to change anything. If the drivers revolt, then it would matter. If they don't then it is what it is.