Droop and MasterSbilt_Racer Q and A

[lurker]

How do you measure droop precisely off of the rear spoiler/rear deck when the spoiler/rear deck is knocked off or bent? Example is JD tonight at the Pittsburger.

Thanks in advance.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

How do you measure droop precisely off of the rear spoiler/rear deck when the spoiler/rear deck is knocked off or bent? Example is JD tonight at the Pittsburger.

Thanks in advance.

The measurement is taken 6" to the right of the lr quarterpanel. That point is usually not disturbed because of the breakaway rr part of the spoiler and t bar. If they think that location is moved, I guess they can do whatever they choose, as is often the case.

[84wedge]

How are they cheating this measurement thing, cause the cars look more jacked up than ever when they're on the gas.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

How are they cheating this measurement thing, cause the cars look more jacked up than ever when they're on the gas.

They aren't cheating. The rule is short sighted, as is the norm in our sport.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

The rule in no way simulates one-track suspension movement and has more holes than a piece of swiss cheese. Since they made a horrible rule against droop, teams worked to get more droop. As you say, they are higher than ever.

My car would fail by 5 or 6 inches a year ago. Once I needed to pass, I had to buy a new shock and cut and weld on the frame. Didn't change a thing that affected on track droop.

[kidrock]

They aren't cheating. The rule is short sighted, as is the norm in our sport.

I'm curious since you have good knowledge of the sport and chassis. What rules would you like to see changed or removed from the current set of rules?

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

I'm curious since you have good knowledge of the sport and chassis. What rules would you like to see changed or removed from the current set of rules?

Droop rule gone. Decking flat in all directions. Driver side body not above decking. 3" convex bow returned to the roof. No splitter on the nose. 36" static deck height. 4" spoiler. Right side body squared off rr wheel with a fixture that runs forward and backwards from center of rr hub. No part of body can be more than 1" further away from fixture than the closest point.

That's a good start.

[lurker]

If they think that location is moved, I guess they can do whatever they choose, as is often the case.

One of the stupidest things ever in the sport of DLM racing.

[kidrock]

Droop rule gone. Decking flat in all directions. Driver side body not above decking. 3" convex bow returned to the roof. No splitter on the nose. 36" static deck height. 4" spoiler. Right side body squared off rr wheel with a fixture that runs forward and backwards from center of rr hub. No part of body can be more than 1" further away from fixture than the closest point.

That's a good start.

I'm guessing this would help address the aero problem?

[SLlDlNG SIDEWAYS]

I'm guessing this would help address the aero problem?

Was there any aero issues that we're seeing today happening 10 years ago?

[Jking24]

Was there any aero issues that we're seeing today happening 10 years ago?

The issues have always been their per say but what's going on is the more "aero efficient " a car becomes the more it suffers from changes in the air. So when a Car has the aero efficiency of a brick it doesn't matter if the air gets disturbed because it's doing very little for the cars handling in the first place. Take a aero efficient car and disturb the air and it might lose half of its grip (handling). Hopefully that makes sense lol

[hardracer32]

I love your ideas on the bodies MasterSbilt_Racer. I think that would be a great start.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Was there any aero issues that we're seeing today happening 10 years ago?

10 years ago, maybe a little longer, is when I first started seeing it affect the racing.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

I'm guessing this would help address the aero problem?

That's the idea and the biggest problem we have, IMO.

[84wedge]

The issues have always been their per say but what's going on is the more "aero efficient " a car becomes the more it suffers from changes in the air. So when a Car has the aero efficiency of a brick it doesn't matter if the air gets disturbed because it's doing very little for the cars handling in the first place. Take a aero efficient car and disturb the air and it might lose half of its grip (handling). Hopefully that makes sense lol

Hence JD going right into the wall when RTJ passed him in the corner at the Pittsburgher

[Josh Bayko]

The bodies just need to be straight, flat and symmetrical with a 36” deck height. Checked with a level and a tape measure. It it fails any of the measurements, tough sh*t go fix it.

It wouldn’t even significantly change the look of the cars to the people in the stands. Would also make life way easier for the graphics guys.

[cjsracing]

Droop rule gone. Decking flat in all directions. Driver side body not above decking. 3" convex bow returned to the roof. No splitter on the nose. 36" static deck height. 4" spoiler. Right side body squared off rr wheel with a fixture that runs forward and backwards from center of rr hub. No part of body can be more than 1" further away from fixture than the closest point.

That's a good start.

So back to the ugly cars of yesteryear. no thanks

[Pennsboro32]

So back to the ugly cars of yesteryear. no thanks

Who cares how ugly they are as long as they race better.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

So back to the ugly cars of yesteryear. no thanks

It wouldn't even look significantly different from the stands. It would race much better. Why the hate?

[SLlDlNG SIDEWAYS]

I've found much pleasure, in the ugly ones...