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    Quote Originally Posted by cgrace View Post
    What will kill Spoon is FIVE CLASSES --- there is nothing worse as a fan sitting there through FIVE CLASSES. There must be some cars out there -- look at the long list of people willing to spend TONS to race at the Dome. It is one of the most expensive events of the year, the pit passes, hotel fees, food purchases and more. It is beyond frustrating to me that they don't race throughout the year and head to the Dome to make it a crash fest. There's also tons of crates who decide they are a late model for the Dome. Maybe just combine lates and crates at Spoon.
    It hasn't killed other tracks why would it kill spoon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidrock View Post
    It hasn't killed other tracks why would it kill spoon?
    That is a very good question.

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    If they could average over 1500 fans per week, it could work. 2000 would be nice.

    Depends on how many chiefs and how many warriors they have. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buford.Justice View Post
    If they could average over 1500 fans per week, it could work. 2000 would be nice.

    Depends on how many chiefs and how many warriors they have. lol
    Full fields in all classes with b-mains and 2000 spectators and they should have no problem pulling it off.

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    That's just not going to happen. Does Fairbury get 1,500 fans for their weekly shows?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidrock View Post
    That's just not going to happen. Does Fairbury get 1,500 fans for their weekly shows?
    i was shocked that every race there that wasnt PDC had a very small crowd imo. i tuned into DV every time they were on & the crowds they had were miniscule in comparison.
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    I don't know of any track that consistently averages 1500 fans for a weekly show. Back in the day maybe but not in today's world.
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    Sadly you may be right. I know Florence Speedway has had pretty poor attendence for regular shows for several years now.

    Some tracks are still having good crowds weekly, like Portsmouth, or at least they were for many years. In 2022 Portsmouth paid $2000 for LM feature winners. I don't know about last year or now though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buford.Justice View Post
    Sadly you may be right. I know Florence Speedway has had pretty poor attendence for regular shows for several years now.

    Some tracks are still having good crowds weekly, like Portsmouth, or at least they were for many years. In 2022 Portsmouth paid $2000 for LM feature winners. I don't know about last year or now though.
    When Florence does some of their various promotional events for cheap food or tickets, they do fairly decent.

    Portsmouth still pays $2k. Attendance was very poor this season, cars and fans.

    Guys who run Farmer City for $1k, should love this purse.
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    This is a Late Model Purse at a track near me. I was really stunned.
    FEATURE
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    CONSY
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buford.Justice View Post
    This is a Late Model Purse at a track near me. I was really stunned.
    FEATURE
    1. 1200.00
    2. 700.00
    3. 500.00
    4. 400.00
    5. 300.00
    6. 250.00
    7. 225.00
    8. 200.00
    9. 175.00
    10. 165.00
    11. 150.00
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    14. 150.00
    15. 150.00
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    17. 150.00
    18. 150.00
    19. 150.00
    20. 150.00

    CONSY
    1. transfer.
    2. transfer
    3. transfer
    4. 75.00
    5. 60.00
    6. 50.00
    7. 40.00
    8. 30.00
    9. 25.00
    10. 25.00
    11. 25.00
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    Well that is true. But this does nothing to help the late model divisions continued decline.

    Quite dissappointing considering this track upped the LM to win to $1000.00 way back in the late 1970's. $6.00 admission by the way.

    Reality is, the purses can't keep up with the LM costs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buford.Justice View Post
    Well that is true. But this does nothing to help the late model divisions continued decline.

    Quite dissappointing considering this track upped the LM to win to $1000.00 way back in the late 1970's. $6.00 admission by the way.

    Reality is, the purses can't keep up with the LM costs.
    It also once had one of the finest fields of late models in the country.

    Racers have also spent beyond their means and beyond the potential returns. They are drunken sailors.
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    If tracks can't get sponsors for more money then the gate prices need to go up. The problem is the fans don't want to pay what's needed for higher purses.

    Would you pay 30.00 at the front gate for three classes= Late Models, A-mods and Hornets or Street stocks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidrock View Post
    If tracks can't get sponsors for more money then the gate prices need to go up. The problem is the fans don't want to pay what's needed for higher purses. Would you pay 30.00 at the front gate for three classes= Late Models, A-mods and Hornets or Street stocks?
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    Do I hear $20???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raceready View Post
    No, No, And No ! !
    Ok how many classes should a track run and what would be the maximum amount you would pay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidrock View Post
    Ok how many classes should a track run and what would be the maximum amount you would pay?
    4 classes and 16 dollar max.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raceready View Post
    4 classes and 16 dollar max.
    Probably not going to be able to have a good payday for those classes at 16.00 unless the promoter gets some good sponsorship money which is his job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidrock View Post
    Probably not going to be able to have a good payday for those classes at 16.00 unless the promoter gets some good sponsorship money which is his job.
    How about if they boost it up to 18 dollar and expect a pretty full grandstand or make it 25 dollar and get a moderate grandstand attendance ?

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