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Old 11-13-2009, 08:52 PM
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Not sure they are gonna go for spoiler changes, especially the 604 guys having smaller spoilers. Then they would have to change to run NDRA or NeSmith.

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Old 11-13-2009, 08:58 PM
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you people sound like the old woman that built a house next too a race track cus the land was cheap,, then pissed and moaned that the race cars make too much noise ...my god people get a grip,., it is what it is . if you think the 604 is better, buy one, if you cant afford one ill sell you a blueprinted mega horse one for 3500.00 .. how much weight do you want us too hang on these cars ?? i already have too put on over 200 lbs

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Old 11-13-2009, 09:07 PM
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I personally have no problem with blue printing engines, I think the myths about mega HP gains are nothing more than bragging & BS. To make the conspiracy theorists more confident how about adding 50# for rebuilt/blueprinted engines. Give the 602's a 10 inch spoiler and the nose spoiler and no minimum weight. Maybe legislate a stiff spring/shock combo on the 5th arm of the 604 cars to unhook them. Just some thoughts.
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Old 11-14-2009, 12:57 AM
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are you nuts or what
C'Mon Butch. It works for WISSOTA! LMAO!
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Old 11-14-2009, 11:08 AM
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Racin Is Racin. The 602 needs a brake. 50 lbs toThe bars next to the motor is th best way to go about it.
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Old 11-14-2009, 09:03 PM
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how do yo know this will work or will be equal..? did you try it or is it only your opinion?
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Old 11-14-2009, 11:21 PM
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Didnt a stock 602 win the ice bowl? And Chris... you had 15 top 5's and 3 wins in 30 races. Sounds even to me.
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Old 11-15-2009, 12:28 AM
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how do yo know this will work or will be equal..? did you try it or is it only your opinion?
It is funny you brought that up because I know of several cars that used to put weight on the drivers foot bar and when the track slicked off they put 25 lbs on the right top bar and moved the foot bar weight up.
Adding the 50 lbs on the top bars in line with the heads is going to make the car roll over easier and help out on a dry slick track. So where the 602 should be gaining on the 604 the 604 would now get better. Weight is not a good item to try to equal cars out with. There will be teams that figure it out quickly and they will be even faster when compared to the others. We ran many races with our 604 50-100 lbs heavier than the cars we were running against and they were running 362 ci aluminum head alcohol motors that run around 550-600hp. When the track got slick we were WAY faster than they were and we were always top 3 in the heat races on a good track.
In short adding weight won't work. Look at ways to make the 602 faster that would be consistent. The nose wing would make them faster through the corner which will equal more straight away speed. The best part is it would work on a tacky or slick track.
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Old 11-15-2009, 10:51 AM
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Lets think about the conditions where the difference in power shows up the most. Big , long straight away tracks like wytheville va.? 311? Small tracks, or tracks that slick off a lot like princeton wv , probably wouldn't show that much difference. It appears to me that anything you do will affect handling in some way, so the change needs to be in a way that will affect handling for the better on the tracks where the 602s disadvantage shows up the most, but does not mess up the handling of the 604 cars on other tracks. It still looks like a combination of weight and spoilers are the only good options.
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Old 11-15-2009, 11:01 AM
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When do you think we will hear something on this? Or will there be one?
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Old 11-16-2009, 11:04 AM
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Hopefully soon!!Racing season will start again before we know it!!
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Old 11-16-2009, 12:43 PM
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You mean to tell me that you think Brad Hall winning "ONE" touring series race in Nesmith all year and not another 602 and Chris winning "0" Touring Series Races in Fastrak and no 602 victories out of all the Touring Series races this entire season EQUAL ? Please pull you head out of the sand !!!! At our local track we didnt have a 602 win a feature all season long !! Only a couple times did one even crack the top 5 ! you are going to honestly look at the statistics of all crate races ran in 2009 and tell me things looks equal between the 602 and 604 ?

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Old 11-16-2009, 01:14 PM
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How about a separate class for 602 engines? that should solve the problems.Bill
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Old 11-16-2009, 01:44 PM
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it's in the works as we speak bill
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Old 11-18-2009, 05:35 PM
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How about a separate class for 602 engines? that should solve the problems.Bill
We had a separate 602 class at Lavonia Speedway about 3 years ago. It was really healthy, 15-20 cars every week, but the track had so many Late Model type cars at the time they opted to drop the 602 class and brought back hobby, I have no idea why. A lot of people got stuck with 602's after that and were not happy.
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