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INSTEAD OF LOWERING YOURSELF TO THAT LEVEL WHY DON'T YOU JUST IGNORE EVERYTHING SAID AND ONLY STAY ON THE EXACT SUBJECT!!!! INTERJECTING INSULTS JUST SHOWS YOUR LEVEL OF MATURITY IS EVEN LOWER THAN HIS. AFTERALL I SEE NOTHING WHERE HE'S CALLING THE GUY NAMES LIKE YOU GUYS ARE.
READ ALL HIS POSTS STARTS OUT WITH ADVANTAGE OF PINTO WITH VALID POINTS,
2ND POST POSTED VERY GOOD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CHASSIS HANDLING ISSUES ASKED VALID QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MANS SETUP.
3RD POST ASKS ANOTHER VALID QUESTION/STATEMENT EXACTLY TO EVERFASTER NO INSULS NO SMART ALEC STATEMENT
4TH POST WAS DIRECTED AT EVERFAST REGARDING COMPLAINING COMPETITORS
5TH POST POINTED OUT EVERFASTER MAKING A CONTRADICTORY STATEMENT
DAN 32 STARTED THE INSULTS TOWARD A GUY THAT DID NOTHING WRONG (IMHO). THEN YOU OTHER YAHOOS JUMP ON THE BANDWAGON AND GARBAGE UP THE ORIGINAL POST AND OFFERED ABSOLUTELY NO ADVICE TO HELP THE op.
Last edited by ATOYOTA; 08-31-2011 at 06:26 PM.
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Originally Posted by Double W Racin'
What exactly is a "Fastboys Setup"? will in work on asphault?
go to the open wheel modified section. look down the postings until it lists fast boys by scooter40. it is used mainly on mods but can be used on other classes. i set my springs up a lot like scooter describes but can't run the floater or the long shackle. the front of the spring acts almost like a solid link with all the spring action happening behind the axle. i've never heard of it being used on pavement.
olin
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the exact subject was pinto or mustang . how did antique ford and neon get in there then
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Really???/ you want to start attacking me for suggesting an alternative? Come on i see nothing that you offered what so ever. NOTICE WORDING LIKE "MAYBE" AS FOR ANTIQUE, ANY VEHICLE OVER 20 YEARS OLD IS CONSIDERED AN ANTIQUE IN MY STATE AND YOU CAN GET SPECIAL COLLECTOR PLATES. LAST YEAR FOR 4 CYL MUSTANG 1993 (18 YEARS AGO) LAST YEAR FOR PINTO 1980 (31 YEARS AGO).
THE NEON IS LIKE THE "PINTO" 15+ YEARS AGO. WHEN'S THE LAST TIME YOU FOUND A PINTO IN A JUNKYARD. I HAVEN'T SEEN ONE IN OVER 8 YEARS. SEEMS A LOT OF MUSTANGS THAT ARE 1/2 DECENT ARE GETTING TURNED INTO DRAG CARS IF YOU CAN EVEN FIND ONE FOR A GOOD PRICE. 15 YEARS AGO WE WERE BUYING FOX MUSTANGS THAT EVEN RAN FOR UNDER $200. WITH JUNK PRICE FINDING ANY MUSTANG IS GETTING NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR UNDER $800
Last edited by ATOYOTA; 09-01-2011 at 06:44 AM.
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I would look at parts in the area and what is winning. If you can get pinto parts then go for it as you have one, they can win, and it will save you money. The Mustangs can win but you would have to start from scratch or buy one. When Pintos were plentiful you could not get someone to build a mustang if you gave it to them ready to race, same with metric full size and a chevelle/camaro chassis, now strut cars and metrics are the norm. There are some good options for a FED car but the rules at some tracks do not allow FWD cars in any class but there own.
The pinstang has been done and they are fast, they are actually more trouble to build than a full tube chassis. The cars that were done ran in Florida on asphalt and dirt and were built when I was at Midwest Motorsports. There are also some 4 link camaro clip 80's montecarlos running around and a 70's camaro clip, 90's camaro 4 link with a Montecarlo body on it. The rules do not let a Camaro run but a monte is Ok.
To do the Pinstang we would cut the floorboard off at the turn up of the firewall. The reason we cut it there was we could place square tubing into the frame and hide the connection better and brace it with the cage. You have to modify the pinto clip to get it to line up the best but then level the suspension with blocks and then build the cage on it. You can even shorten the chassis to run the pinto body OR leave it longer for the mustang body.
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Originally Posted by ATOYOTA
Maybe you should forget that old antique ford stuff and look into something a bit more modern, with a lot of parts availability and performance. Think about it a stock dohc neon puts out over 150hp a stock 2.3 ford is like 90. How much money do you need to spend to get to 150?
We've been racing Ford 2.3 rear wheel drive off and on for the past 13 years. I've built up a fairly good assortment of stuff. Not sure I wanna scrap all of that stuff and start anew. Just call me a creatcher of habit. I can at least use the motor, tranny, wheels/tires from my Pinto on the Mustang.
They jury is still out on all of this. I am going to have the car put on a frame machine and find out if all of the points are in their correct places first.
Last edited by Double W Racin'; 09-01-2011 at 01:56 PM.
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I understand that aspect. I went thru the same thing some years ago with the fords had all the stuff was fairly fast. But the neons came out and started whooping butt. I didn't want to run the same thing (dont care much for dodges). So i sold off all my ford stuff and went toyota. First year out 4th in points. Never did that good with the fords and twice the investment just in my motor.
HERE'S A THOUGHT. I'VE SEEN ESCORTS DO WELL AND ONE GUY HAS A PINTO MOTOR IN THE ESCORT. APPEARANTLY THE 2.0 BOLTS UP TO THE ESCORT TRANS.
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Originally Posted by ATOYOTA
Maybe you should forget that old antique ford stuff and look into something a bit more modern, with a lot of parts availability and performance. Think about it a stock dohc neon puts out over 150hp a stock 2.3 ford is like 90. How much money do you need to spend to get to 150?
u went from rear wheel drive to front!!! most tracks want let them run together!!
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Originally Posted by ATOYOTA
INSTEAD OF LOWERING YOURSELF TO THAT LEVEL WHY DON'T YOU JUST IGNORE EVERYTHING SAID AND ONLY STAY ON THE EXACT SUBJECT!!!! INTERJECTING INSULTS JUST SHOWS YOUR LEVEL OF MATURITY IS EVEN LOWER THAN HIS. AFTERALL I SEE NOTHING WHERE HE'S CALLING THE GUY NAMES LIKE YOU GUYS ARE.
READ ALL HIS POSTS STARTS OUT WITH ADVANTAGE OF PINTO WITH VALID POINTS,
2ND POST POSTED VERY GOOD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CHASSIS HANDLING ISSUES ASKED VALID QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MANS SETUP.
3RD POST ASKS ANOTHER VALID QUESTION/STATEMENT EXACTLY TO EVERFASTER NO INSULS NO SMART ALEC STATEMENT
4TH POST WAS DIRECTED AT EVERFAST REGARDING COMPLAINING COMPETITORS
5TH POST POINTED OUT EVERFASTER MAKING A CONTRADICTORY STATEMENT
DAN 32 STARTED THE INSULTS TOWARD A GUY THAT DID NOTHING WRONG (IMHO). THEN YOU OTHER YAHOOS JUMP ON THE BANDWAGON AND GARBAGE UP THE ORIGINAL POST AND OFFERED ABSOLUTELY NO ADVICE TO HELP THE op.
ok yota u called me out!! u might wanna spend some time reading and stop typing! pobort is all over this board with nothing more than stupied remarks < if u like his remarks and wanna take his advice go for it!! but ive won well over a hundred races in a mustang !! and beat lots of yotas and pintos !! so there u have my in put!!
Last edited by Dan32; 09-02-2011 at 02:42 PM.
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Originally Posted by Double W Racin'
We've been racing Ford 2.3 rear wheel drive off and on for the past 13 years. I've built up a fairly good assortment of stuff. Not sure I wanna scrap all of that stuff and start anew. Just call me a creatcher of habit. I can at least use the motor, tranny, wheels/tires from my Pinto on the Mustang.
They jury is still out on all of this. I am going to have the car put on a frame machine and find out if all of the points are in their correct places first.
a mustang will be ur better bet !!
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Originally Posted by Dan32
a mustang will be ur better bet !!
Although I am leaning that way (pretty hard)... I still have a bit more research to do in order to completely make up my mind.
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Originally Posted by Dan32
ok yota u called me out!! u might wanna spend some time reading and stop typeing! pobort is all over this board with nothing more than stupied remarks < if u like his remarks and wanna take his advice go for it!! but ive won well over a hundred races in a mustang !! and beat lots of yotas and pintos !! so there u have my in put!!
REALLY OVER 100 WINS, WHERE YOU YOU RACE? I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE A GUY THAT'S SO DOMINATE. THE LAST GUY I'VE SEEN THAT WAS ALMOST AS MUCH OF A WINNER AS YOU WAS (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) TRICKLE
SO WHAT IF POBORT SAYS STUPID STUFF, YOU DO THE SAME THING AND HIS SPELLING IS BETTER THAN YOURS. JUST CALLING A SPADE A SPADE.
SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE A GUY DOESN'T GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO ASSULT HIM VERBALLY AND USE DEROGATORY REMARKS. HOW WOULD YOU LIKE IT IF SOMEONE PULLED THAT ON YOU? BESIDES, I REITERATE, IN THIS TOPIC HE DID NOTHING WRONG NOR DID HE DO ANYTHING DIRECTED AT YOU WHAT SO EVER.
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Originally Posted by dan32
u went from rear wheel drive to front!!! Most tracks want let them run together!!
every track i've run has both together and they are pretty darn close. Saabs, vw's, neons, escort, mustang, pinto, camaro, porsche 914, vega, monza, talon, shadow, charger, cavaliers, nissan 200sx, toyota celica, and more all race in the same division. The top 15 cars are all within .4sec qualifying. Only 2 people have won the feature more than once. 8 different winners in 13 races
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Originally Posted by ATOYOTA
THE NEON IS LIKE THE "PINTO" 15+ YEARS AGO. WHEN'S THE LAST TIME YOU FOUND A PINTO IN A JUNKYARD. I HAVEN'T SEEN ONE IN OVER 8 YEARS. SEEMS A LOT OF MUSTANGS THAT ARE 1/2 DECENT ARE GETTING TURNED INTO DRAG CARS IF YOU CAN EVEN FIND ONE FOR A GOOD PRICE. 15 YEARS AGO WE WERE BUYING FOX MUSTANGS THAT EVEN RAN FOR UNDER $200. WITH JUNK PRICE FINDING ANY MUSTANG IS GETTING NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR UNDER $800
i have a race pinto plus a street pinto that i have in my back yard that i will put a turbocoupe engine in for my wife to drive around in. i can find at least 10 pintos within 25 miles of my home. mustangs are even easier to find, many for free. i guess it is a benefit of living in northern california. around here fwd's can run with other ministocks but either can't compete or can't take the pounding the rwd cars can. the only classes where the fwd are better is in the pure stock mini type classes where few modifications are allowed. i own more then just fords. i had a nissan z24 minitruck and still have a 20r/22r hybred mini mod. as far as newer engines go i have looked at the 2.5 dohc ford duratech and the 2.7 dohc toyota for future use, but for right now it is cheaper and less work to run the pinto/mustang, celicas, or some of the nissans.
olin
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Originally Posted by ATOYOTA
HERE'S A THOUGHT. I'VE SEEN ESCORTS DO WELL AND ONE GUY HAS A PINTO MOTOR IN THE ESCORT. APPEARANTLY THE 2.0 BOLTS UP TO THE ESCORT TRANS.
it will bolt up to an escort diesel trans. as i have posted in the past the only person i have ever seen post about this combo was 22dodge, hmmm.
olin
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No hmm here, i have been around a while and i saw that post but the guy i saw with the pinto motor in an escort was in rockford il. When we were up there for a special bahama brackets. Where i run the gen 2 and gen3 escorts do pretty good with 1.8 dohc and 1.9's do well also. But then we run asphalt. Maybe fwd does better on pavemnet vs dirt IN MOD CLASS.
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Originally Posted by ATOYOTA
every track i've run has both together and they are pretty darn close. Saabs, vw's, neons, escort, mustang, pinto, camaro, porsche 914, vega, monza, talon, shadow, charger, cavaliers, nissan 200sx, toyota celica, and more all race in the same division. The top 15 cars are all within .4sec qualifying. Only 2 people have won the feature more than once. 8 different winners in 13 races
wow u all must have 50 car fields?? we dont mix front and rear wheel driver much around here!! a little but not much! and im not gonna have a name calling contest with u i was explaining the situation that u comented on!! or atleast tried before u started calling all sorts of names! by the way i race in the south east! like every winner not liked alot, but won at tracks in ga. ala. also raced in sc. and tenn. but we run really well and win lots of races! so back to the post a mustang is the better choice in my opinion, double w racin if u need any help pm me any questions and i'll do my best to help u out any way i can!!! and yota u win the name calling im done!!
Last edited by Dan32; 09-02-2011 at 06:34 AM.
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Originally Posted by return to dirt
i have a race pinto plus a street pinto that i have in my back yard that i will put a turbocoupe engine in for my wife to drive around in. i can find at least 10 pintos within 25 miles of my home. mustangs are even easier to find, many for free. i guess it is a benefit of living in northern california. around here fwd's can run with other ministocks but either can't compete or can't take the pounding the rwd cars can. the only classes where the fwd are better is in the pure stock mini type classes where few modifications are allowed. i own more then just fords. i had a nissan z24 minitruck and still have a 20r/22r hybred mini mod. as far as newer engines go i have looked at the 2.5 dohc ford duratech and the 2.7 dohc toyota for future use, but for right now it is cheaper and less work to run the pinto/mustang, celicas, or some of the nissans.
olin
i agree same here in ga. theres not that many pintos but there around! mustangs are every where!!
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Originally Posted by ATOYOTA
No hmm here, i have been around a while and i saw that post but the guy i saw with the pinto motor in an escort was in rockford il. When we were up there for a special bahama brackets. Where i run the gen 2 and gen3 escorts do pretty good with 1.8 dohc and 1.9's do well also. But then we run asphalt. Maybe fwd does better on pavemnet vs dirt IN MOD CLASS.
u have been around a while! 2010! 48 post u dont have much to say until here of late huh??
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Originally Posted by ATOYOTA
every track i've run has both together and they are pretty darn close. Saabs, vw's, neons, escort, mustang, pinto, camaro, porsche 914, vega, monza, talon, shadow, charger, cavaliers, nissan 200sx, toyota celica, and more all race in the same division. The top 15 cars are all within .4sec qualifying. Only 2 people have won the feature more than once. 8 different winners in 13 races
must not be a top dog there then?? reading back through ur posts though i had read ur comment saying ,[ im the top dog!!] down here top dog wins 18 a year or so at 2 or 3 different tracks!! maybe even more tracks!! jmo!!!
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