Question About Portsmouth & Tyler County

[Centeroff]

Clayton you can't fix the dust at Tyler county. I don't care how much water you put down. Water it 24/7 and that place will dust up. On the other hand there is a way to fix the problem. Use very little water for the 50 the night before, let the track rubber up, put a quick coat of water over the rubber and let it be. Moral of the story is the only way to stop dust up there is let the tires do the work. The dirt up there is almost a sandy yellowish tinted dirt. I say let it take rubber and let em roll

[FutureLegend]

Clayton you can't fix the dust at Tyler county. I don't care how much water you put down. Water it 24/7 and that place will dust up. On the other hand there is a way to fix the problem. Use very little water for the 50 the night before, let the track rubber up, put a quick coat of water over the rubber and let it be. Moral of the story is the only way to stop dust up there is let the tires do the work. The dirt up there is almost a sandy yellowish tinted dirt. I say let it take rubber and let em roll

One thing I'll actually agree with you on. Tyler County is not dusty because they don't do track prep or add enough water. The track is always heavy. To many people call it dusty, when actually it isn't, it's dirty. Something about the dirt on that track, I've heard it has to do with the silt from the creek they get their water from, but the cars actually throw it up in the air to the point it "rains" on you. One thing is for sure, the dirtier it is, the better the racing is. If you leave there at the end of the night less shocked by how good the racing was than how dirty you are, go to an asphalt track because dirt racing isn't for you.

[Clayton_Wetter]

One thing I'll actually agree with you on. Tyler County is not dusty because they don't do track prep or add enough water. The track is always heavy. To many people call it dusty, when actually it isn't, it's dirty. Something about the dirt on that track, I've heard it has to do with the silt from the creek they get their water from, but the cars actually throw it up in the air to the point it "rains" on you. One thing is for sure, the dirtier it is, the better the racing is. If you leave there at the end of the night less shocked by how good the racing was than how dirty you are, go to an asphalt track because dirt racing isn't for you.

You guys know more about Tyler than I do, I'm sure. I'll take your word for it, if you also know that they do cut the track up at least six inches deep before watering and rolling it.

I know some tracks LOOK like they water the crap out of them, when in reality all of it just sits on top and doesn't soak in.

BTW Thank you for having the 912Project in your signature!

[GEAR_HEAD]

Clayton you can't fix the dust at Tyler county. I don't care how much water you put down. Water it 24/7 and that place will dust up. On the other hand there is a way to fix the problem. Use very little water for the 50 the night before, let the track rubber up, put a quick coat of water over the rubber and let it be. Moral of the story is the only way to stop dust up there is let the tires do the work. The dirt up there is almost a sandy yellowish tinted dirt. I say let it take rubber and let em roll

That is a horrible idea. Tyler is not good when it rubbers up. How about just letting the dirt fly and enjoying all the passing? The dirt has never been an issue for me. It's from the silt in the water that they get from the creek. It's wet dirt that rains on you, not dust. There's a huge difference there. They dump tons of water on that track after they dig it up, which also adds more silt.

[FutureLegend]

You guys know more about Tyler than I do, I'm sure. I'll take your word for it, if you also know that they do cut the track up at least six inches deep before watering and rolling it.

I know some tracks LOOK like they water the crap out of them, when in reality all of it just sits on top and doesn't soak in.

Tyler is one track I've never been afraid to defend because they do actually work on the track. Just as you said, they do cut the track deep and add water. They also do what most tracks don't and cut the track during multi say shows. I've seen that track look like a complete mud pit in the morning from being cut and watered and then smooth and tacky right at race time. Guess what, after 15-20 laps the dirt is starting to fall again, but the track is still wet and tacky.

[Clayton_Wetter]

Tyler is one track I've never been afraid to defend because they do actually work on the track. Just as you said, they do cut the track deep and add water. They also do what most tracks don't and cut the track during multi say shows. I've seen that track look like a complete mud pit in the morning from being cut and watered and then smooth and tacky right at race time. Guess what, after 15-20 laps the dirt is starting to fall again, but the track is still wet and tacky.

Thank you for telling me that. I am always open to listening and you have convinced me that they are making a good effort and the silt and dirt are the problem. I was wrong to place blame on the track prep.

[Scott Boesel]

Is Tyler County itself worth a 7 hr and 430 mile drive one way?

Well worth it I drove 16 hours one way to go there a few years ago it's worth every penny

[kd1]

Tyler Co may have been the dustiest track I have ever been to in my life ..but the racing was great .. I always said that if I ever got to go back that I would take my old helmet from my go-cart racing days with plenty of tare-offs and wear it while watching from the stands!

[Centeroff]

Hear head have you ever seen Tyler county turn to black ice? I have! 2005 Hillbilly hundred Mikey Marlar came from dead last to win. Best race I ever watched. Slide job after slide job. Lap times slowed down over 4 seconds but I have to say the most passing I ever seen in one race

[Pennsboro23]

Hear head have you ever seen Tyler county turn to black ice? I have! 2005 Hillbilly hundred Mikey Marlar came from dead last to win. Best race I ever watched. Slide job after slide job. Lap times slowed down over 4 seconds but I have to say the most passing I ever seen in one race

That was a good race but that was 12 years ago because it was actually 2004. I'm not sure I've seen Tyler have a good race when it rubbered up since. The good thing is, it rarely rubbers up. The dust doesn't bother me, the dirtier it gets, the better the racing. Bring on the Hillbilly.

[GEAR_HEAD]

That was a good race but that was 12 years ago because it was actually 2004. I'm not sure I've seen Tyler have a good race when it rubbered up since. The good thing is, it rarely rubbers up. The dust doesn't bother me, the dirtier it gets, the better the racing. Bring on the Hillbilly.

I keep telling him that but he doesn't listen. Reading comprehension seems to be an issue for him.

[FutureLegend]

Hear head have you ever seen Tyler county turn to black ice? I have! 2005 Hillbilly hundred Mikey Marlar came from dead last to win. Best race I ever watched. Slide job after slide job. Lap times slowed down over 4 seconds but I have to say the most passing I ever seen in one race

I agree with you in one post and then you say something like this. Obviously that is the only time you've ever been there that it took rubber. When they started bringing in the Outlaws they prepped the track a little differently the first few times, I'm guessing so it was more to the outlaws liking. The track took rubber and those races, even though they were still better than most, were snoozers compared to regular racing at Tyler County. Just because Mikey was able to come from the back in a steel block car, which in itself shows the track was entirely way to slick, on a rubbered up surface doesn't mean they'll all be good, and honestly any race since the 2004 Hillbilly that it's taken rubber hasn't been good.

[GEAR_HEAD]

Hear head have you ever seen Tyler county turn to black ice? I have! 2005 Hillbilly hundred Mikey Marlar came from dead last to win. Best race I ever watched. Slide job after slide job. Lap times slowed down over 4 seconds but I have to say the most passing I ever seen in one race

I was at that race. You seem to forget that Marlar was in a steel block which helped him on the black ice and he was one of the few that could pass. The race was a choo choo at the end and Marlar had to get into the back of Davey J and get him loose to get around him and take the lead because of the freight train conditions. So what part of "black slick doesn't work at Tyler anymore" can you not comprehend? I've seen black slick at Tyler a few times since then and it's not good. I'm willing to draw a picture if that will help.

[Dirt Draggin]

That is a horrible idea. Tyler is not good when it rubbers up. How about just letting the dirt fly and enjoying all the passing? The dirt has never been an issue for me. It's from the silt in the water that they get from the creek. It's wet dirt that rains on you, not dust. There's a huge difference there. They dump tons of water on that track after they dig it up, which also adds more silt.

For once I partially agree with you! Not good when it rubbers up(which is rare).I personally don't think it's just the silt from the water,unless by saying silt you're quantifying the presence of sand in it also.It certainly has some kind of grit(sand) in it,a lot of you have had it grinding in your teeth, I'm sure! Calling it wet doesn't fit either-it will drift downstream w/o wind way down the valley(cars always coated in lot).When there is fog closing in there it may pick up moisture that way,but wet dirt that rains on you-not likely(there have been clods known to fly there for sure).

[Centeroff]

Gear head that race was 12 years ago. These cars and chassis have came a very long way since 2004 and I know how hard it can be to comprehend but these guys have figured out ways to pass cars when the track is slick. black ice creates the best racing in the country at times. I'd rather watch a car come from dead last and win in the slick than eat a bunch of dust personally. It's gonna be a good race either way but I say let the track pack in and take rubber and may the best driver win! If the dust creates a better race I'm all for it. I will be there with my crown royal ready to roll

[FutureLegend]

Gear head that race was 12 years ago. These cars and chassis have came a very long way since 2004 and I know how hard it can be to comprehend but these guys have figured out ways to pass cars when the track is slick. black ice creates the best racing in the country at times. I'd rather watch a car come from dead last and win in the slick than eat a bunch of dust personally. It's gonna be a good race either way but I say let the track pack in and take rubber and may the best driver win! If the dust creates a better race I'm all for it. I will be there with my crown royal ready to roll

I say you don't get to to many races. I got to roughly 40-50 races a year all over the country, and I can count on one hand the number of good races I've seen in rubbered up conditions. Just say what you really want to, you want it to rubber up so bloomer can start up front and actually have a shot at winning, because let's face it, his performance at Tyler county has been less than stellar.

[GEAR_HEAD]

Gear head that race was 12 years ago. These cars and chassis have came a very long way since 2004 and I know how hard it can be to comprehend but these guys have figured out ways to pass cars when the track is slick. black ice creates the best racing in the country at times. I'd rather watch a car come from dead last and win in the slick than eat a bunch of dust personally. It's gonna be a good race either way but I say let the track pack in and take rubber and may the best driver win! If the dust creates a better race I'm all for it. I will be there with my crown royal ready to roll

Rubber is not good. Ever. Period.

[Centeroff]

Future I go to my fair share of races but nowhere near 50. You should know it doesn't matter what the track does or where Scott starts in any race because he has won more races than most of us have watched. If you go to 50 races a year you obviously have the opportunity to see ZERO win a half a million or so, roughly. I just like a dry slick track because it takes the wide open one hit wonders out of the equation unless a cushion forms of course. I like a drivers track where the guy with the best car doesn't always win. Bouncing off a cushion doesn't impress me much because all you need to win on the cushion is a car that won't win anywhere else on the track. I just wanna see a good show

[Centeroff]

Gearhead and futurelegend. You guys got me literally lol right now. You say a dry slick rubbered up track is never any good. Simply go to DOD and watch the best finishes of 2015. The first 8 I watched were all on dry, slick rubbered up tracks with a cushion. Not 6 of the first 8, not 7 of the first 8 but 8of 8 beat finishes of 2015 were on a dry, slick, rubbered up track. I was wrong once or twice in my life but apparently the people that count over at DOD agree. The dry slick is where the passing happens fellas. When the guys that start in the back make a run towards the front

[GEAR_HEAD]

Gearhead and futurelegend. You guys got me literally lol right now. You say a dry slick rubbered up track is never any good. Simply go to DOD and watch the best finishes of 2015. The first 8 I watched were all on dry, slick rubbered up tracks with a cushion. Not 6 of the first 8, not 7 of the first 8 but 8of 8 beat finishes of 2015 were on a dry, slick, rubbered up track. I was wrong once or twice in my life but apparently the people that count over at DOD agree. The dry slick is where the passing happens fellas. When the guys that start in the back make a run towards the front

What the hell were you smoking when you watched the video? They were slick but NOT rubbered up. It is impossible for a track to be dry slick and rubbered up as you claim. It is either dry slick OR rubbered up. It can't be both.

Some tracks do race better when they slick off. No track races better when it starts taking rubber.